Something that has always bothered me alittle...

Topic started by scubasteve2010 on Aug. 12, 2009. Last post by StarFoxA 7 months ago.
Post by scubasteve2010 (55 posts) See mini bio 465 ACH / 9620 P
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             I'd like to preface by saying that the fairly heavy  topic I going to bring up is probably not the proper stomping ground of fun, light-hearted website such as this. However I have been thinking alot lately about the possibilty of there being an afterlife. Recently I was talking to a friend about the idea of an afterlife. He said that he "knows" there is a God and more specifically he "knows" there is an afterlife. This brings me to my topic. As I was thinking about what he had said, I began to remember something that I have always been slightly been irked and confused by. That is the concept someone can "know" beyond doubt an afterlife exists. When I asked him wether he means to say he "believes" there is a life after what we know now, he shakes his head no. He again says he "knows." For a moment putting aside the obivious religious connection, has it ever bothered you to know  someone to believe so concretely in something so conceiveably abstract?
Post by Pazy (1,472 posts) See mini bio 657 ACH / 10810 P
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I always just term it as a diffrence between knowing and knowing through faith. Knowing requires empirical evidence and knowing through faith simply requires faith but it "feels" the same to the person (or perhaps weighted towards faith). So basically it dosent bother me at all.

EDIT: As a side note a lot of things I beleive in are abstract concepts. Take the concept of love for example, I know love exists yet, for me, there is no actual evidence for it.

Post by Diamond (5,887 posts) See mini bio 3053 ACH / 56900 P
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It can make me uncomfortable when I'm around people speaking of their deeply held beliefs like they're facts.
Post by PeasForFees (1,948 posts) See mini bio 490 ACH / 7640 P
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@Diamond said:
" It can make me uncomfortable when I'm around people speaking of their deeply held beliefs like they're facts. "
Indeed
Post by MikeFightNight (230 posts) See mini bio 832 ACH / 16760 P
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Not really.  The only time it bothers me if if they are going out of there way to push there beliefs on me. Everyone has opinions and beliefs, who am I to judge.
Post by mikevanpwn (319 posts) See mini bio 1063 ACH / 19095 P
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He knows there is an afterlife becuase he believes in it.  What is faith if you dont believe without a shadow of a doubt that something is true?
Post by Sabata (562 posts) See mini bio 1248 ACH / 22415 P
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I, too, dislike being around delusional people.
Post by JacobForrest (290 posts) See mini bio 489 ACH / 7847 P
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The concept of afterlife always interested me. Not because I believe in it, but because it shows the extent to which we humans are afraid of death.
 
There is a delusion that "because it's my faith, it's true" that our society seems to accept. For that reason I don't usually discuss religious beliefs, nor do I think much about my own. There's nothing to be gotten from it. If someone wants to believe that, upon death, they are carried to the clouds if they're good, or taken to a fiery pit if they're bad, I don't mind.
Post by natetodamax (10,197 posts) See mini bio 1671 ACH / 33682 P
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@Diamond said:
" It can make me uncomfortable when I'm around people speaking of their deeply held beliefs like they're facts. "
This.
Post by deFacto (36 posts) See mini bio
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I always try to get away from thoughts of the afterlife/God, ect. Even if they do exist (which i'll be honest I think is extremely slim), there's no point in believing in it or pushing it on others because we as a society will never really know. I always feel for me that it's a little of a waste of time. I can fully understand why someone might want to "know" an afterlife exists though, because it's pretty depressing to think that there isn't.
Post by EdIsCool (512 posts) See mini bio 250 ACH / 4455 P
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but all the more reason to make heaven on earth..you would have to exterminate all conservatives but hell that'd be fun.
Post by pornstorestiffi (2,294 posts) See mini bio 2642 ACH / 52038 P
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@mikevanpwn said:
" He knows there is an afterlife becuase he believes in it.  What is faith if you dont believe without a shadow of a doubt that something is true? "
Thats true.
Post by marlow83 (113 posts) See mini bio
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Yeah, it bugs the hell out of me. Especially with religion
Post by crusader8463 (1,216 posts) See mini bio 672 ACH / 6650 P
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He doesn't know, he just THINKS he knows. No body will know until they die what is really after death. The closest we can get is people who have been died and came back like in surgeries etc. But even then there's still no way to know for sure what they saw was real or just brain spasms and  chemicals going off just before they die.
 
It doesn't offend me when people talk about their beliefs, as i believe everyone is entitled to their own opinion, even if they are wrong. I do how ever always feel sorry when i read/hear people who talk about their religion as the only thing out there and everyone else is wrong and evil. Mainly because those people have already drank the cool-aid and have been indoctrinated into the brainwashed cult known as religion. No matter what you say or how much proof you give them they just cant open them selves up to possibility out side of what their cult of choice has taught them. Being brainwashed into a certain set of beliefs where your are ostracized and demonized for asking questions is a fate worse then death. Not to mention scary as all fuck to think about what this world would become if groups like them had the power to rule over us.
Post by TheLegendofLuke (144 posts) See mini bio 552 ACH / 10499 P
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If it will comfort him when he dies to believe so thoroughly that there is an afterlife and he is happy then that's all that matters, surely?
Post by EdIsCool (512 posts) See mini bio 250 ACH / 4455 P
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Well it depends on what kind of cool aid drinker he is. If he has children does he teach them that the world is 12,000 years old and dinosaur fossils were put here by god to test our faith?Would he like to shoot abortion doctors dead?.If not then its just a quirk he has, try not to debate him as it will drive you insane.
Post by Zaerus (84 posts) See mini bio
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Religion as a whole anoys me due to this. There just isnt a decent discussion you can have with those people without them hammering on their book based on no facts whatsoever. It's the whole never ending Evolution vs creation debate that cannot be settled unless religious people learn to question their book for the lack of facts it has, or come up with the miraculous, factual proof. [aka not "the earth is here, i have my proof"]
 
That aside, aslong as they don't press it in my face they can believe in any invisible floating entity in the sky.
But i'd expect them to return the favor. So if i suddenly converted to martians they should honor that. Which they won't.
Just look at how most religious deal with other religions.
Post by Food (170 posts) See mini bio 610 ACH / 11995 P
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I know what it's like to not be alive, because I was not alive for the vast majority of time.  It kind of sucked, but I didn't know it sucked because I didn't exist.  I didn't have any thoughts, memories, feelings or personality, and that's how it'll be after I die.  I'm willing to accept that because I'm not some pansy who needs to invent an elaborate lie to tell myself because I'm too afraid to face the cold hard truth.
Post by TheBigBeefy (150 posts) See mini bio
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You guys would never have lasted in the days of Yore. To not call upon God for support in battle, is to side with the evil armies of Satan. Unsheathe thy sword and haveth a priest bless it so that the wizards' and ogres' blood may burn with every slash.
Post by Food (170 posts) See mini bio 610 ACH / 11995 P
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Yore gay.
 
 
 
 
(I know it was lame, but I couldn't resist.)