What if the universe didn't exist?

Topic started by SmugDarkLoser on June 29, 2009. Last post by cspiffo 4 months, 1 week ago.
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Sort of weird to think.
What if the universe didn't exist.  More so even, what if nothing didn't even exist?

I'm not saying what if life didn't exist, if only planets were there, if only space were there, if only that crazy concept of a white space was there.  No, I mean there being no nothing at all.

Damn. 
I'm curious overall as to why it does.    Someone's probably going to say the big bang, but I mean why would that happen?  And I don't mean what caused that either, but straight up, why does anything and nothing at all exist.   And no, I'm not implying any god or anything.  Just you know, you'd think  even nothing at all would be a crazy thing to say exists.


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Well if the universe didn't exist then Giant Bomb wouldn't exist and that would suck. :(


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better yet, what if you were your fathers father, think about it


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If nothing existed this thread wouldn't exist. So there's the silver lining in that scenario.


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This is exactly why I dont post drunk


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Trying to give a reason as to why existence exists is a pretty tall order.  It's hard to say that there could ever be truly "nothing", because even if the vastness of space was devoid of planets, stars, and galaxies, there would still be the vastness of space itself.  How can something like that not exist?


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@BiffMcBlumpkin: What was I going to say again? Oh, yeah... ZING.


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My hands.  They can touch each other.


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I can touch your hands too. Hoh.... hohmygod. I can touch your hands too. 


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@Hailinel said:
" Trying to give a reason as to why existence exists is a pretty tall order.  It's hard to say that there could ever be truly "nothing", because even if the vastness of space was devoid of planets, stars, and galaxies, there would still be the vastness of space itself.  How can something like that not exist? "
Is there a solid boundary between the ends of our universe and...well...whatever is OUTSIDE of it? The universe is constantly expanding, but what is it expanding into? Is there anything outside the universe?

GAH, these are questions that cannot yet really be answered.


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What if our dreams were actually reality.


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@expletive said:
" better yet, what if you were your fathers father, think about it "

@SmugDarkLoser said:
" Sort of weird to think.What if the universe didn't exist.  More so even, what if nothing didn't even exist? I'm not saying what if life didn't exist, if only planets were there, if only space were there, if only that crazy concept of a white space was there.  No, I mean there being no nothing at all.Damn.  I'm curious overall as to why it does.    Someone's probably going to say the big bang, but I mean why would that happen?  And I don't mean what caused that either, but straight up, why does anything and nothing at all exist.   And no, I'm not implying any god or anything.  Just you know, you'd think  even nothing at all would be a crazy thing to say exists. "
Since we are asking such deep and serious questions let me ask, what is the meaning of life?


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Then you're 4 topics a day wouldn't exist either.


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If nothing ever existed I wouldn't have ever had Pizza and Sushi, two of my favorite foods ever.


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@Hailinel said:
"Trying to give a reason as to why existence exists is a pretty tall order.  It's hard to say that there could ever be truly "nothing", because even if the vastness of space was devoid of planets, stars, and galaxies, there would still be the vastness of space itself.  How can something like that not exist?"
Why does that have to exist?
What caused anything to be?

I just don't get it.  Science will obviously never find an answer as they'll just get to the point after it.  You can always ask why that happened.

I'm just curious.  Why in the world would it?  Jees, I'm inspired to write a book about it, but I don't think I'm right in the head to do it now.  And lol, like anyone who starts a book finishes it like me. 



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@alsnuts2: Nah, a drunk post ends up completely different, namely in the form of a text or a phone call that you regret and cannot take back.

Reminds me of the time I was shmangled and making groundbreaking theories about the universe such as:

"Something only has meaning if I give it meaning"

That blew my mind on kush.

In response to the topic though, one would need to exist to wonder something like that; therefore it is you that provides meaning and relevance to the matter, and therefore the universe.


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The edge of my hand can chop down a mountain, if I'm standing next to it.


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@Termite said:
The universe is constantly expanding, but what is it expanding into?

The Zone of Pomposity. And look, it's all over us now.


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@Termite said:
"@Hailinel said:
" Trying to give a reason as to why existence exists is a pretty tall order.  It's hard to say that there could ever be truly "nothing", because even if the vastness of space was devoid of planets, stars, and galaxies, there would still be the vastness of space itself.  How can something like that not exist? "
Is there a solid boundary between the ends of our universe and...well...whatever is OUTSIDE of it? The universe is constantly expanding, but what is it expanding into? Is there anything outside the universe? GAH, these are questions that cannot yet really be answered. "

Well actually, you're confused.  When people say that, they mean the galaxies are all moving away from each other.  Think about as if the space is a bowl of infinity, while the galaxies are just cheerios going towards the edge of the endless bowls.


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When I think about this question and imagine the universe being nothing, I imagine nothing but I am also imagining something. It freaks me out; it makes me anxious. I don't fucking know, IT'S FUCKING WEIRD! What the fuck is wrong with you for bringing this up?!?

Sorry.


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Come on, dude, surely there are better uses of your acid/shroom trip time than posting in OT


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If the universe didn't exist, then Giant Bomb would spontaneously appear and set off a big bang.


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@Blair:  Beleive me I know all too much about the drunk text,

Funny text conversation I actually had 2 weeks ago

Me: (something drunken sounding but not out of line)

 Her "Im with my boyfriend and really not feeling comfortable receving these texts anymore"

Me: Oh you have a BF now? well he must be a lucky guy... cause he just won the huge bitch lottery!

One of my all time best zingers


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If the universe didn't exist then Chuck Norris would come and make his own badass version.


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Pointless thread is pointless.


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If the universe didn't exist I wouldn't have to listen to this "deep thinking" crap.


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@SmugDarkLoser said:
What if the universe didn't exist?
*Facepalm*


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@gingertastic_10 said:
"What if our dreams were actually reality. "

What if reality was actually a dream?


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@T0mF5: What if that post was just my unconscious mind trying to get me to wake up?


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@SmugDarkLoser said:
" @Hailinel said:
"Trying to give a reason as to why existence exists is a pretty tall order.  It's hard to say that there could ever be truly "nothing", because even if the vastness of space was devoid of planets, stars, and galaxies, there would still be the vastness of space itself.  How can something like that not exist?"
Why does that have to exist? What caused anything to be?I just don't get it.  Science will obviously never find an answer as they'll just get to the point after it.  You can always ask why that happened. I'm just curious.  Why in the world would it?  Jees, I'm inspired to write a book about it, but I don't think I'm right in the head to do it now.  And lol, like anyone who starts a book finishes it like me.  "
You're seriously not making any sense here.  There's nothing that says that the universe has to exist, but there are elements of the universe that are, in essence, already nothing.  Those elements just happen to be populated by something.  Remove the something, and the nothing is still there.  How can one take nothing from nothing?