What if the universe didn't exist?

Topic started by SmugDarkLoser on June 29, 2009. Last post by cspiffo 4 months, 1 week ago.
Post by Meltbrain (1,170 posts) See mini bio
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@expletive said:
" @Meltbrain said:
" @expletive said:
" better yet, what if you were your fathers father, think about it "
And your mother was your sister. "
yeah, but that can be explained by incest, where as the father thing would just break the universe 
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As far as I'm concerned they're both just as universe-breaking.


Post by lemon360 (776 posts) See mini bio
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how do we now that we exist? we could all be ghosts of a planet doomed to die infinate times over and over again. And what is your perception of reality? Something that has ever existed is real to you? well what about the future. the future doesn't exist until the time we live in comes with the set time that we haven't experienced yet. and something from the past can't exist fully because it has changed, in the largest or tiniest molecular way, and that we can never go back into it. perhaps there is no past and only the present, the future doesn't exist until we come to it, and the past seems like moments that we pasted, but is just a state of being for all the space and matter in the universe. or because it never had existed. We can't go back in time or forward into it. We can only live in the set period we are in which is pulling us as we come closer to our innevitable doom. Is our perception of time/reality real? we exist in one set point in time moving forward according to our understanding of time. How can we judge reality if our view is trapped in these digits representing our way of knowing what moment we live in during the coarse of an earth day. What if .  . . im just kiddin ya that would suck if giantbomb didn't exist i don't knowwhat i was rambling on about lol


Post by pwr905 (26 posts) See mini bio

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There are people who write about this stuff in a serious context - be it quantum gravity, string theory, or other fringe things; not to say that they are "fringe science", but these sort of topics, when investigated seriously, are not exactly tea-time chatter (unless you happen to live with theoretical physicists). Try investigating some of the writings of Edward Witten, Kip Thorne, Stephen Hawking, Michio Kachu, and a laundry list of other contemporaries who make it a point to try and publicize science.

I haven't read all the pages of the thread - but, to a point you asked as to why would the Big Bang (or anything, for that matter) happen, these types of issues are investigated/hypothesized about in the aforementioned folks' writings. I'm not going to try and do them justice in a forum post, so if you really are interested in these types of things, look into it. If you want to "dive right in" (and not understand anything), Kavli Intstitute of Theoretical Physics (KITP) makes alot of these lectures public, and puts them on their website. Fun to listen to, but unless you have a Masters/PH.D on the topic, sometimes a bit hard to understand.


Post by Termite (1,802 posts) See mini bio

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@Illmatic said:
" @SmugDarkLoser said:
" @Termite said:
"@Hailinel said:
" Trying to give a reason as to why existence exists is a pretty tall order.  It's hard to say that there could ever be truly "nothing", because even if the vastness of space was devoid of planets, stars, and galaxies, there would still be the vastness of space itself.  How can something like that not exist? "
Is there a solid boundary between the ends of our universe and...well...whatever is OUTSIDE of it? The universe is constantly expanding, but what is it expanding into? Is there anything outside the universe? GAH, these are questions that cannot yet really be answered. "
Well actually, you're confused.  When people say that, they mean the galaxies are all moving away from each other.  Think about as if the space is a bowl of infinity, while the galaxies are just cheerios going towards the edge of the endless bowls. "
Yes, but to move away from each other, there needs to be something to move into as well. I can't move my body without leaving one space and entering another. I don't leave this space and enter nothingness when I step away from this computer or even move my fingers to the next key. There is always something there. What he's getting at is in a world that is bounded by limits (walls, floors, atmosphere, gravity, etc.) what bounds the universe? And if something bounds the universe, what is outside that bound as it expands? "
The reason why the logic of "there needs to be something to move into" usually works is because we are normally discussing things that are still within reality. That which is outside the universe however lacks time or space, and thus really nothing can exist outside of the universe. If you were to teleport past the edge of the universe as we know it, you'd be stuck in a purgatorial state since you wouldn't actually be there due to the lack of space and even if you were you wouldn't sense anything because there is no time.We live inside reality, and are bound to its rules, but it doesn't mean that we can always apply logic that works in reality (there always must be something to move into) to something outside of it.


Post by dbz1995 (1,594 posts) See mini bio
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If the universe was non-existant, then nothing would have happened. Easiest question ever.


Post by OutOfBounds9000 (1,047 posts) See mini bio

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@SmugDarkLoser: Then you shouldn't be writing that post up there.And i shouldn't be posting this reply.


Dude,if universe didn't exist,they're just wouldn't be anything.No darkness,no....wait,if theres no colors,what color will it be when the universe....

Seriously,nevermind.


Post by Bucketdeth (4,660 posts) See mini bio
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I'm my own grandpa.


Post by Oriental_Jams (2,628 posts) See mini bio
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It would surely be impossible for 'nothing' to not exist-if the universe didn't exist 'nothing' would be there in its place. That's the way things work, don't fuck with my head anymore.


Post by Demo (228 posts) See mini bio

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Taken from The Incredible Shrinking Man: "God knows no zero."

If the universe didn't exist, Mr.T would make it happen.


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Post by RetroIce4 (2,969 posts) See mini bio

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Nothing would exist... Then we would all be like,
"WE DID IT FOR TEH LULZ!"


Post by cspiffo (532 posts) See mini bio

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Philosophical questions really do fail.  The OP must've been high while starting this :^P

Answer...If the universe didn't exist, neither would you so what's the point in wondering what if.