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#1 Posted by ViciousBearMauling (1254 posts) -

So, the movie released 2 days ago, and with that, comes a cannon name for our hero.

Makoto Yuki

http://www.p3m.jp/chara/index.html#makoto (Proof)

So I guess we can rename this page from "Persona 3 Protangonist"?

#2 Posted by Hailinel (25205 posts) -

@viciousbearmauling: No, because he's never been officially referred to by that name in any game that has been released. Yu Narumkami was not officially Yu Narukami in the wiki until Persona 4 Arena.

#3 Posted by DeadpanCakes (1068 posts) -

I thought that his name for the movie was announced, like, when the trailer came out?

#4 Posted by ViciousBearMauling (1254 posts) -

@hailinel: Ah, then wait for the appearance in PersonaQ, maybe P4A Ultimax with that Elizabeth stuff, or even Persona 5.

#5 Posted by shinjin977 (800 posts) -

His name was Minato Arisato in the manga, so you know, choices.

#6 Posted by MormonWarrior (2671 posts) -

A cannon is a weapon. Canon is like the official storyline or accepted facts of a fictional universe. Or a brand that makes printers.

Also, I don't think the guy has a canonical name really. It seems to differ depending on the context. I named him Yuuji Miyamoto because...I dunno, Japan?

#7 Posted by Hunter5024 (5982 posts) -

Isn't Yuki a girls name?

#8 Posted by Hailinel (25205 posts) -

Isn't Yuki a girls name?

Yuki is the character's family name.

#9 Posted by _Zombie_ (1462 posts) -

His name was Minato Arisato in the manga, so you know, choices.

And Yu's manga name was Souji Seta before the anime happened.

So it's kind of par for the course so far.

#10 Posted by supamon (1334 posts) -

VJ should get on that P3 endurance run so we can get the TRUE canonical name. Charlie the 2nd.

#11 Edited by JamesJeux007 (506 posts) -

As far as I'm concerned, the "canon" name is the one I used during my playthrough. It's like P4. I mean, I love Charlie Tunoku, but the character's name for me is Tora Shinjo because that's the name I gave him. And I mean, he has 45 "canon" names already so...

Actually, I kinda of like that the main character in Persona games don't seem to have a real "canon" name. They are zeroes after all. If anything, I was bummed when people started treating Narukami Yu as the only name for the P4 character.

And since I'm here, does FeMC have a "canon" name as well ?

#12 Edited by Brake (1134 posts) -

I thought he was Chuck Salmon.

#13 Edited by Steadying (1481 posts) -

@hailinel: And now he's just " Hero " in that dancing game. 'Cause ya know, reasons.

On topic: He will always be Minato Arisato to me.

#14 Posted by Hunter5024 (5982 posts) -

@hailinel said:

@hunter5024 said:

Isn't Yuki a girls name?

Yuki is the character's family name.

Oh. It's backwards then.

#15 Posted by Canteu (2821 posts) -

@hunter5024: When you romanise those names, to people who only speak English, you do it in our order. Otherwise people do what you just did, but without trying to look clever.

#16 Edited by Hunter5024 (5982 posts) -

@canteu: One look at my post history will make it preeetty clear I don't try and look clever (I say a lot of stupid shit). It was genuinely confusing to me that they had it in that order, especially because I've seen Yuki used as a first name several times before, but never Makoto.

#17 Posted by obcdexter (658 posts) -

"Protangonist Cannon" would have been a cool name.

#18 Edited by Ravenlight (8011 posts) -

That's Charlie's cousin, Chump Tunoku.

#19 Posted by SoldierG654342 (1822 posts) -

It's really weird that they allow you to name the characters yourself and go through great lengths in-game to let you play them with such wildly different personalities, and then come out with canonical versions of them.

#20 Edited by FluxWaveZ (19388 posts) -
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#21 Posted by HerbieBug (4208 posts) -

Makoto is also pretty gender neutral.

#22 Edited by Video_Game_King (36272 posts) -

We all know the REAL canon name is gonna be Brooklyn Rage.

#23 Edited by I_Stay_Puft (3830 posts) -

I think you mean "Batman Batman."

#24 Edited by FriendlyPhoenix (469 posts) -

Nope, not happening. His name is and always shall be Minato Arisato. You can't take that away from me!

#25 Edited by GaspoweR (3533 posts) -

IT'LL ALWAYS BE CHARLIE TUNOKU DAMMIT!...

Oh wait, wrong entry. 0_o

#26 Edited by stonepawfox (236 posts) -

@hunter5024: guess you don't play much street fighter?

edit: or blazblue?

#27 Posted by GrantHeaslip (1612 posts) -

Nope, not happening. His name is and always shall be Minato Arisato. You can't take that away from me!

I look it up when I started playing FES a few weeks ago, and the general consensus seemed to be Minato. It's weird to me that they didn't pick an official name back in 2006.

#28 Edited by FluxWaveZ (19388 posts) -

@friendlyphoenix said:

Nope, not happening. His name is and always shall be Minato Arisato. You can't take that away from me!

I look it up when I started playing FES a few weeks ago, and the general consensus seemed to be Minato. It's weird to me that they didn't pick an official name back in 2006.

His manga name was Minato Arisato, just like Yu's manga name was Souji Seta. There was no need for a canon name until Atlus started backing the characters officially with their own, distinct personalities, dialogue and roles in different projects.

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#29 Posted by jimmyfenix (3753 posts) -

I called him and will always call him Charlie Tunoku 2.

#30 Edited by Hailinel (25205 posts) -

@grantheaslip: Atlus rarely gives their nameable protagonists canon names. The closest most come to is whatever name is used in a manga adaptation.

#31 Edited by GrantHeaslip (1612 posts) -

@hailinel: @fluxwavez: Yeah, I get that, it just seems to lead to unnecessary confusion. I think there's value in just picking a name so people aren't all using different names (Hero, MC, Minato, Makoto, etc.) for the same guy. In Mass Effect, you've got a lot of personality leeway, but everyone knows the main character is named "Shepard".

#32 Edited by oldenglishC (1008 posts) -

In the P4: Dancing all Night trailer the name for P4's main character (Who will always and forever be Chaz Malibu.) is listed as "Hero". Good on Atlus games for not buying into this canon names nonsense.

EDIT: A little late to party with this info. Guess I should have read all the comments.

#33 Posted by FluxWaveZ (19388 posts) -

@hailinel: @fluxwavez: Yeah, I get that, it just seems to lead to unnecessary confusion. I think there's value in just picking a name so people aren't all using different names (Hero, MC, Minato, Makoto, etc.) for the same guy. In Mass Effect, you've got a lot of personality leeway, but everyone knows the main character is named "Shepard".

That's why the P3MC is Makoto Yuki and the P4MC is Yu Narukami. Forget the other names, they're not official.

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#34 Posted by Yummylee (22587 posts) -

I've always been at odds with the way Persona design their main characters. I mean, they're silent protagonists that allow you to select their name, but you can't cosmetically customise them. I really hope they'll settle on one or the other for P5, be it allowing you to customise your own character, or instead settling on an actual per-determined character and giving him/her a voice. Or I dunno, give your character a voice, but still let you customise him/her Shepard style maybe.

#35 Posted by slyspider (1376 posts) -

Minato Arisato is a way better name. Seta Souji used to be p4MC name but they changed it

#36 Posted by Hailinel (25205 posts) -

@fluxwavez: P3MC is only Makoto in the films. It's not official in game terms until there's a game that refers to him by that.

#37 Edited by FluxWaveZ (19388 posts) -

@hailinel said:

@fluxwavez: P3MC is only Makoto in the films. It's not official in game terms until there's a game that refers to him by that.

Yes. But given PQ and most probably P4A2, I think it's safe to assume that it will follow the same precedent as Yu Narukami.

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#38 Posted by Hailinel (25205 posts) -

@fluxwavez: That remains to be seen. Also, you thought he'd "probably" be in P4A, didn't you? :P

#39 Edited by FluxWaveZ (19388 posts) -

@hailinel said:

@fluxwavez: That remains to be seen. Also, you thought he'd "probably" be in P4A, didn't you? :P

Did I? From what I remember, I said I hoped he'd be in but that I doubted he would be. Same goes for P4A2.

And it doesn't really remain to be seen for me since it follows the exact same trend as Yu Narukami did. Given similar interviews concerning P3M, that's no doubt the name they'll use to refer to him in any future media where he needs to be referred to.

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#40 Posted by Hailinel (25205 posts) -

@fluxwavez: Yet the trailer for P4D calls Yu "Hero".

#41 Edited by Hunter5024 (5982 posts) -

@stonepawfox Nope.

@yummylee said:

I've always been at odds with the way Persona design their main characters. I mean, they're silent protagonists that allow you to select their name, but you can't cosmetically customise them. I really hope they'll settle on one or the other for P5, be it allowing you to customise your own character, or instead settling on an actual per-determined character and giving him/her a voice. Or I dunno, give your character a voice, but still let you customise him/her Shepard style maybe.

I think Shepard sucks because it's Bioware trying to have their cake and eat it too. They want a customizable character, but they also want to have license over that character, and I feel like those two philosophies are constantly at odds. That's why you get people complaining about Shepard having a gay romance option "Because he's straight!" while other people go "He's whatever you want him to be." And on the other side of the coin, that's the reason people get upset when he's haunted by the memory of a dead child because "My Shepard wouldn't give a fuck."

The way Persona works is ideal for the game they're making I believe. One of the big themes of the game is putting on your different faces for social situations, and the fact that your character has no voice, and has no character is perfect for that, because it allows all of the choices in your dialogue to be reactions suited to the social situation rather than the expression of a character you're trying to expand upon. I suppose some customization options are always welcome, but I think it might confuse players into believing he's a different kind of character than he's supposed to be.

#42 Posted by themangalist (1750 posts) -

Why does Altus have to change the main characters' names for each and every release... It's confusing and frankly quite stupid.

#43 Edited by FluxWaveZ (19388 posts) -

@hailinel said:

@fluxwavez: Yet the trailer for P4D calls Yu "Hero".

So did the trailer and opening for P4G. So?

And unlike P4G, P4D's trailer doesn't name him "Hero" but refers to him as "the hero."

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#44 Edited by Xeiphyer (5613 posts) -

Just think of the powerful Personas you could summon if you shot yourself with the Persona 3 cannon.

#45 Posted by Batista (2 posts) -

Okay. I might be late as tits here on this forum, but the official name should now be Minato Arisato. That is because in Persona Q, it has his name in the Japanese letters, and it translates to "Arisato Minato", and before any of you say Persona Q isn't canon, it's probably gonna be about as canon as P4U.

#46 Posted by FluxWaveZ (19388 posts) -

@batista said:

Okay. I might be late as tits here on this forum, but the official name should now be Minato Arisato. That is because in Persona Q, it has his name in the Japanese letters, and it translates to "Arisato Minato", and before any of you say Persona Q isn't canon, it's probably gonna be about as canon as P4U.

First off, the P4A series isn't "about as canon", it's a full on sequel to Persona 4. The developers have said as much and it's their word before anyone else's. They haven't said anything about Persona Q's legitimacy in respect to the Persona series canon, but it's already fully contradictory to the storylines of Persona 3 and Persona 4 themselves unless the ending involves mass amnesia.

Second of all, "Minato Arisato" was only labeled once in a Persona Q video (if that), and was not associated to the Persona 3 main character in any other PQ media. He is always referred to as the "P3 Hero", just like Yu Narukami is referred to as the "P4 Hero."

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#47 Edited by ViciousBearMauling (1254 posts) -

@batista said:

Okay. I might be late as tits here on this forum, but the official name should now be Minato Arisato. That is because in Persona Q, it has his name in the Japanese letters, and it translates to "Arisato Minato", and before any of you say Persona Q isn't canon, it's probably gonna be about as canon as P4U.

I'd say P4U is totally canonical.

Persona Q is probably canon but in some silly memory wiping kind of way, I'd say that this would count as official.

#48 Posted by Batista (2 posts) -

@viciousbearmauling: That's what is probably gonna happen, no lie. The teams will have to give up their memory of the event for Zen and Rei to get their memories back. If that's not canon (talking to FluxWaveZ ), then blacking out after a long night of drinking and banging some fat girl isn't canon. As much as we don't want to say it's true, apart from what we remember, it's true to our life's story or some other cheesy shit.

#49 Edited by believer258 (12216 posts) -

I called him and will always call him Charlie Tunoku 2.

But he came before Charlie Tunoku...

Anyway, this might be why I never really got into the Persona 3 and 4 side stuff. I really don't care about anything beyond the games, except maybe PQ and that's mostly because Etrian Odyssey and Persona should be pretty great.

#50 Posted by IrrelevantJohn (1093 posts) -
@batista said:

Okay. I might be late as tits here on this forum, but the official name should now be Minato Arisato. That is because in Persona Q, it has his name in the Japanese letters, and it translates to "Arisato Minato", and before any of you say Persona Q isn't canon, it's probably gonna be about as canon as P4U.

P4U is totally canon and as for the names, it could be whatever Atlus names them. If you look at the Persona 4 Dancing all night trailer it just says "HERO".