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#1 Posted by Metal_Mills (2990 posts) -

http://www.vg247.com/2014/01/29/titanfall-to-launch-without-local-dedicated-servers-in-australia/

Next, the gamer asked to clarify whether or not this meant there would be Titanfall servers located on Australian soil – a valid concern for an online-only title – to which Heppe replied, “They aren’t Australian and I don’t know the exact location (sorry, not the server expert )…but we continue to advocate for Australian servers while making sure Australian gamers will have the best experience we can offer them.”

What the fuck? More like Titanfail. What a joke! So it's an online only game and Australian or in fact any oceanic gamers will have to play with what? 300+ping? The best we might get is Singapore servers it seems. Yet again MS shows they care about it's users.

#2 Edited by DonPixel (2585 posts) -

maybe wait till its come out... just saying...

#3 Edited by xaLieNxGrEyx (2605 posts) -

You're worrying over nothing

#4 Edited by Baillie (4080 posts) -
#5 Posted by mercutio123 (471 posts) -

If you meant to say Titanfail seriously..... I have no sympathy for you

#6 Edited by MariachiMacabre (7077 posts) -
#7 Edited by Pie (7078 posts) -

Serves em right

#8 Edited by EarlessShrimp (1633 posts) -

More like Titan-ic! AM I RIGHT GUYS?!

#9 Edited by DinosaurCanada (95 posts) -

This is a titanic mistake on their part.

Edit: DAMMIT

#10 Posted by Metal_Mills (2990 posts) -

@donpixel said:

maybe wait till its come out... just saying...

And that will change what exactly? Servers in another country means high ping. That's ok in a game like an MMO or even a game like DOTA but trying to play a split second FPS is terrible with high ping. It's not like they can patch it out.

#11 Posted by alwaysbebombing (1567 posts) -

Good. People from Australia are mean.

#12 Posted by Rowr (5536 posts) -

PC

Buying a console specialising in streaming video services and utilising a cloud is a dumb move as an Australian.

#13 Posted by BIGJEFFREY (4948 posts) -

I'll drink a fosters while playing titanfall in honor of AU.

Online
#14 Posted by AlexanderSheen (4967 posts) -

Australia is the worst. Everything is trying to kill you constantly AND they will don't have dedicated servers.

Just leave Australia. It's better this way.

...

They didn't say there will never be a server, it's just not going be available at launch.

Online
#15 Posted by DonPixel (2585 posts) -

@donpixel said:

maybe wait till its come out... just saying...

And that will change what exactly? Servers in another country means high ping. That's ok in a game like an MMO or even a game like DOTA but trying to play a split second FPS is terrible with high ping. It's not like they can patch it out.

you want to be angry, so be angry.

enjoy

#16 Edited by Metal_Mills (2990 posts) -

@donpixel said:

@metal_mills said:

@donpixel said:

maybe wait till its come out... just saying...

And that will change what exactly? Servers in another country means high ping. That's ok in a game like an MMO or even a game like DOTA but trying to play a split second FPS is terrible with high ping. It's not like they can patch it out.

you want to be angry, so be angry.

enjoy

Umm I think it's very valid to be annoyed when you're told a game that needs low ping won't have it in certain regions. I'm asking what waiting till release will change and you avoid it completely and leave a snarky comment. Both of your comments make me wonder if you know what ping is...it's not part of the game that can be fixed or tweaked, this isn't the net code.

#17 Posted by Video_Game_King (36272 posts) -

They're doing it to spite Yahtzee.

#18 Posted by Random45 (1137 posts) -

Australians always seem to get the short end of the stick, whether it be by its own strict video game policies, or due to lack of servers. Not much you can do about it I guess, though it does suck.

#19 Posted by GERALTITUDE (3228 posts) -

Sucks dude.

I thought Titanfail was pretty funny, don't know why er'body so uppity about it.

Hopefully when it comes out this will end up having to be nothing to worry for, but it's hard to believe EA can launch any game now without massive early woes.

#20 Posted by Korwin (2846 posts) -

@rowr said:

PC

Buying a console specialising in streaming video services and utilising a cloud is a dumb move as an Australian.

AYUUUP. Actually this is why PC gaming continues to be more popular for online play outside of the US and other major markets, and why PC players generally get tetchy when they don't received dedicated server code.

#21 Posted by Vinny_Says (5700 posts) -

damn dude are all your topics going to be this angry? You're pissed about Elders Scrolls, you're pissed about Tiatnfall....I'm seriously concerned you might have some anger issues.

Nah actually I don't know you so I don't give a shit about your anger issues, but still dude....these games aren't forcing you to bend over and take it up the ass...yet...just chill a bit.

Sorry for you Australian duders, maybe in time they'll set up some servers on your continent, unless you're all bitter and angry all the time like OP, in that case ya'll don't deserve shit with your shitty attitudes.

#22 Posted by Stackboy (496 posts) -

As an Australian this is frustrating, but I guess I'll wait till the game comes out and see what other Australians who play the game first say about the experience.

#23 Edited by Wolfgame (707 posts) -

@vinny_says: we live in an interesting world, the OP has to justify before the community that a game being sold in his region that the devs are perfectly willing to take his money for operate at a comparable ability to other regions. How dare he demand a quality gameplay experience, it's his fault for living in Australia, Go Merica' ... *rolls eyes*

#24 Edited by Oldirtybearon (4713 posts) -

@wolfgame said:

@vinny_says: we live in an interesting world, the OP has to justify before the community that a game being sold in his region that the devs are perfectly willing to take his money for operate at a comparable ability to other regions. How dare he demand a quality gameplay experience, it's his fault for living in Australia, Go Merica' ... *rolls eyes*

Yeah, I've noticed this as well.

Sympathies to Australian players looking forward to Titanfail. Aussies tend to get the real deep dickin' when it comes to this stuff.

#25 Edited by DarthOrange (3858 posts) -
#26 Posted by JayEH (524 posts) -

Another reason why America is the best country in the world. USA USA USA USA USA USA USA!

#27 Posted by Korwin (2846 posts) -
#28 Posted by PandaBear (1357 posts) -

@wolfgame said:

@vinny_says: we live in an interesting world, the OP has to justify before the community that a game being sold in his region that the devs are perfectly willing to take his money for operate at a comparable ability to other regions. How dare he demand a quality gameplay experience, it's his fault for living in Australia, Go Merica' ... *rolls eyes*

Yeah, I've noticed this as well.

Sympathies to Australian players looking forward to Titanfail. Aussies tend to get the real deep dickin' when it comes to this stuff.

The dickin' does run deep here sometimes. The Aussie dollar just hit a three-and-a-half year low against the US dollar so the hard fuckin' on game prices can now be justified again.

Anyway, Microsoft have promised Azure servers here in New South Wales and Victoria in 2014, which would be great if it happens. I'm buying the physical copy anyway, so if the game proves to be laggy I'll return it. One of a few reasons I don't buy digital....

#29 Posted by DonPixel (2585 posts) -

@korwin said:

@rowr said:

PC

Buying a console specialising in streaming video services and utilising a cloud is a dumb move as an Australian.

AYUUUP. Actually this is why PC gaming continues to be more popular for online play outside of the US and other major markets, and why PC players generally get tetchy when they don't received dedicated server code.

I've heard in some markets PC is cheaper to get because is taxed as a work-school device, unlike consoles taxed as leisure.

#30 Posted by benspyda (2033 posts) -

Well it just will mean a bunch of us aussies will be in american servers, lagging all over the place.

#31 Posted by Shirogane (3569 posts) -

@donpixel said:

maybe wait till its come out... just saying...

And that will change what exactly? Servers in another country means high ping. That's ok in a game like an MMO or even a game like DOTA but trying to play a split second FPS is terrible with high ping. It's not like they can patch it out.

Whoah whoah, what the hell are you talking about? You have no idea what you're saying. That kinda ping is NOT acceptable in DOTA at all, it means you get hit with everything and it's impossible to dodge stuff, last hit, deny, etc.

So yeah, this kinda stuff is bullshit all around, not just FPS games, so if we don't get our own servers, it basically means we can't play this game. I've tried battlfield on NA servers, it is unplayable.

#32 Posted by crithon (3126 posts) -

a lot can happen in 2 months

#33 Posted by Shortbreadtom (750 posts) -

@crithon: not really. 2 months is not very long in terms of game development, and f someone says there will be no servers in a region, I doubt they can introduce an entirely new server structure in 2 months. Hell, games usually go gold a month before release so there is really only one month to change anything

#34 Edited by GreggD (4487 posts) -

@metal_mills said:

@donpixel said:

maybe wait till its come out... just saying...

And that will change what exactly? Servers in another country means high ping. That's ok in a game like an MMO or even a game like DOTA but trying to play a split second FPS is terrible with high ping. It's not like they can patch it out.

Whoah whoah, what the hell are you talking about? You have no idea what you're saying. That kinda ping is NOT acceptable in DOTA at all, it means you get hit with everything and it's impossible to dodge stuff, last hit, deny, etc.

So yeah, this kinda stuff is bullshit all around, not just FPS games, so if we don't get our own servers, it basically means we can't play this game. I've tried battlfield on NA servers, it is unplayable.

Well...yeah. Why wouldn't you pick a server region closer to Australia?

#35 Edited by Rowr (5536 posts) -

@greggd said:

@shirogane said:

@metal_mills said:

@donpixel said:

maybe wait till its come out... just saying...

And that will change what exactly? Servers in another country means high ping. That's ok in a game like an MMO or even a game like DOTA but trying to play a split second FPS is terrible with high ping. It's not like they can patch it out.

Whoah whoah, what the hell are you talking about? You have no idea what you're saying. That kinda ping is NOT acceptable in DOTA at all, it means you get hit with everything and it's impossible to dodge stuff, last hit, deny, etc.

So yeah, this kinda stuff is bullshit all around, not just FPS games, so if we don't get our own servers, it basically means we can't play this game. I've tried battlfield on NA servers, it is unplayable.

Well...yeah. Why wouldn't you pick a server region closer to Australia?

I get the occasional laggy game but in general something like dota 2 is way more viable than anything resembling a shooter in which any international game accounts for losing any 1 for 1 speed and skill engagement.

Sure helps develop the skill of surprise though.

The only shooters I've played online that have been viable have been PC with Australians on Australian servers.

Maybe halo and cod games where you could get an aus server at peak times once every 1/5 games. Though I'm not sure if you would call that "viable"

Thank god for valve.

#36 Posted by Crysack (302 posts) -

@greggd said:

@shirogane said:

@metal_mills said:

@donpixel said:

maybe wait till its come out... just saying...

And that will change what exactly? Servers in another country means high ping. That's ok in a game like an MMO or even a game like DOTA but trying to play a split second FPS is terrible with high ping. It's not like they can patch it out.

Whoah whoah, what the hell are you talking about? You have no idea what you're saying. That kinda ping is NOT acceptable in DOTA at all, it means you get hit with everything and it's impossible to dodge stuff, last hit, deny, etc.

So yeah, this kinda stuff is bullshit all around, not just FPS games, so if we don't get our own servers, it basically means we can't play this game. I've tried battlfield on NA servers, it is unplayable.

Well...yeah. Why wouldn't you pick a server region closer to Australia?

The way routing works on most ISPs means that, even if the servers are located in Singapore, the packets bounce around like 50 countries before getting there. By contrast, we have a straight pipe to LA or somewhere from the east coast of Australia. Usually that means that pings to NA are better than they are to SEA. They certainly are in DotA and Starcraft, in any case.

#37 Edited by kagato (911 posts) -

@oldirtybearon said:

@wolfgame said:

@vinny_says: we live in an interesting world, the OP has to justify before the community that a game being sold in his region that the devs are perfectly willing to take his money for operate at a comparable ability to other regions. How dare he demand a quality gameplay experience, it's his fault for living in Australia, Go Merica' ... *rolls eyes*

Yeah, I've noticed this as well.

Sympathies to Australian players looking forward to Titanfail. Aussies tend to get the real deep dickin' when it comes to this stuff.

The dickin' does run deep here sometimes. The Aussie dollar just hit a three-and-a-half year low against the US dollar so the hard fuckin' on game prices can now be justified again.

Anyway, Microsoft have promised Azure servers here in New South Wales and Victoria in 2014, which would be great if it happens. I'm buying the physical copy anyway, so if the game proves to be laggy I'll return it. One of a few reasons I don't buy digital....

You might have problems returning an online only game, a few UK stores wont accept at all now, GAME are a bit funny about anything that has "online only" on the box.

#38 Posted by PandaBear (1357 posts) -

@kagato said:

@pandabear said:

@oldirtybearon said:

@wolfgame said:

@vinny_says: we live in an interesting world, the OP has to justify before the community that a game being sold in his region that the devs are perfectly willing to take his money for operate at a comparable ability to other regions. How dare he demand a quality gameplay experience, it's his fault for living in Australia, Go Merica' ... *rolls eyes*

Yeah, I've noticed this as well.

Sympathies to Australian players looking forward to Titanfail. Aussies tend to get the real deep dickin' when it comes to this stuff.

The dickin' does run deep here sometimes. The Aussie dollar just hit a three-and-a-half year low against the US dollar so the hard fuckin' on game prices can now be justified again.

Anyway, Microsoft have promised Azure servers here in New South Wales and Victoria in 2014, which would be great if it happens. I'm buying the physical copy anyway, so if the game proves to be laggy I'll return it. One of a few reasons I don't buy digital....

You might have problems returning an online only game, a few UK stores wont accept at all now, GAME are a bit funny about anything that has "online only" on the box.

EB Games are great at taking games back. It's printed on the back of every receipt, you have seven-days. They even take back accessories and and PC games.

Uh oh, I sound like an ad. I need to balance this out... they fucked me on my PS4 preorder which is why I have an Xbox One. True story.

#39 Posted by Metal_Mills (2990 posts) -

@crithon said:

a lot can happen in 2 months

This has NOTHING to do with Titanfalls development. People don't understand this. This is 100% about Microsoft's Azure sever coverage. Respawn can't change shit.

http://azurespeedtest.azurewebsites.net/

These are the servers. That's the ping you'll be getting. From multiple Australians testing it so far it's about 160ms at best. That would get you booted out of many FPS servers for being too high.

#40 Posted by Freshbandito (680 posts) -

That would get you booted out of many FPS servers for being too high.

No one going to touch this gem of a set up?

#41 Posted by GreggD (4487 posts) -

@crithon said:

a lot can happen in 2 months

This has NOTHING to do with Titanfalls development. People don't understand this. This is 100% about Microsoft's Azure sever coverage. Respawn can't change shit.

http://azurespeedtest.azurewebsites.net/

These are the servers. That's the ping you'll be getting. From multiple Australians testing it so far it's about 160ms at best. That would get you booted out of many FPS servers for being too high.

Do we know that MS is providing the servers, though? It's an EA Partners release, so I would assume that EA themselves would be providing the server coverage.

#42 Edited by Demoskinos (14763 posts) -

If you meant to say Titanfail seriously..... I have no sympathy for you

#43 Posted by crithon (3126 posts) -

@greggd said:

@metal_mills said:

@crithon said:

a lot can happen in 2 months

This has NOTHING to do with Titanfalls development. People don't understand this. This is 100% about Microsoft's Azure sever coverage. Respawn can't change shit.

http://azurespeedtest.azurewebsites.net/

These are the servers. That's the ping you'll be getting. From multiple Australians testing it so far it's about 160ms at best. That would get you booted out of many FPS servers for being too high.

Do we know that MS is providing the servers, though? It's an EA Partners release, so I would assume that EA themselves would be providing the server coverage.

Well then that's the interesting thing, what sort of contract deals would there need to be to get the game out there in Australia? EA has a spotty record and Microsoft is said to be paying for some very impressive cloud based servers that rival google.

#44 Posted by GreggD (4487 posts) -

@crithon said:

@greggd said:

@metal_mills said:

@crithon said:

a lot can happen in 2 months

This has NOTHING to do with Titanfalls development. People don't understand this. This is 100% about Microsoft's Azure sever coverage. Respawn can't change shit.

http://azurespeedtest.azurewebsites.net/

These are the servers. That's the ping you'll be getting. From multiple Australians testing it so far it's about 160ms at best. That would get you booted out of many FPS servers for being too high.

Do we know that MS is providing the servers, though? It's an EA Partners release, so I would assume that EA themselves would be providing the server coverage.

Well then that's the interesting thing, what sort of contract deals would there need to be to get the game out there in Australia? EA has a spotty record and Microsoft is said to be paying for some very impressive cloud based servers that rival google.

Yeah, I think we just need to sit pretty and see how this pans out.

#45 Edited by Korwin (2846 posts) -

@greggd said:

@metal_mills said:

@crithon said:

a lot can happen in 2 months

This has NOTHING to do with Titanfalls development. People don't understand this. This is 100% about Microsoft's Azure sever coverage. Respawn can't change shit.

http://azurespeedtest.azurewebsites.net/

These are the servers. That's the ping you'll be getting. From multiple Australians testing it so far it's about 160ms at best. That would get you booted out of many FPS servers for being too high.

Do we know that MS is providing the servers, though? It's an EA Partners release, so I would assume that EA themselves would be providing the server coverage.

By default they provide them on Xbox Live, not sure how it will pan out on PC though.

#46 Posted by GreggD (4487 posts) -

@korwin said:

@greggd said:

@metal_mills said:

@crithon said:

a lot can happen in 2 months

This has NOTHING to do with Titanfalls development. People don't understand this. This is 100% about Microsoft's Azure sever coverage. Respawn can't change shit.

http://azurespeedtest.azurewebsites.net/

These are the servers. That's the ping you'll be getting. From multiple Australians testing it so far it's about 160ms at best. That would get you booted out of many FPS servers for being too high.

Do we know that MS is providing the servers, though? It's an EA Partners release, so I would assume that EA themselves would be providing the server coverage.

By default they provide them on Xbox Live, not sure how it will pan out on PC though.

Um, on 360 they were provided by EA and DICE. Unless this is a new thing with the Xbox One, I honestly haven't been keeping up on the new consoles.

#47 Posted by Korwin (2846 posts) -

@greggd said:

@korwin said:

@greggd said:

@metal_mills said:

@crithon said:

a lot can happen in 2 months

This has NOTHING to do with Titanfalls development. People don't understand this. This is 100% about Microsoft's Azure sever coverage. Respawn can't change shit.

http://azurespeedtest.azurewebsites.net/

These are the servers. That's the ping you'll be getting. From multiple Australians testing it so far it's about 160ms at best. That would get you booted out of many FPS servers for being too high.

Do we know that MS is providing the servers, though? It's an EA Partners release, so I would assume that EA themselves would be providing the server coverage.

By default they provide them on Xbox Live, not sure how it will pan out on PC though.

Um, on 360 they were provided by EA and DICE. Unless this is a new thing with the Xbox One, I honestly haven't been keeping up on the new consoles.

One of the developer features for the Xbox One flavour of Live is integration with the Azure data centre services. It allows MS spin up new virtual dedicated servers on the fly automatically depending on user demand at any given point in time. That means the end of server queues and it also means that publishers don't need to maintain the infrastructure which would potentially mean (one would hope) that people won't have to worry about EA coming through every 6 months and shutting down the online for games permanently.

The online might work more traditionally for 360 and PC however.

#48 Posted by GreggD (4487 posts) -

@korwin: Ah. Well, that kinda sucks for Australian users, but in the grand scheme of things, sounds good for everyone else.

#49 Posted by Andorski (5268 posts) -

GG, mate.

#50 Posted by ch3burashka (5040 posts) -

Be happy you get books and mp3 players, you goddamn criminal.