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#51 Edited by Ghostiet (5243 posts) -

@mildmolasses: Oh, I don't deny it's fun. I actually enjoyed myself immensely, I would dare say that I had more fun than in Uncharted 2, since TR's enemies are not bullet sponges. I'm just sad that the game tries to tackle a theme it's ultimately uninterested in pursuing.

@tangoup: You have to have the weapon equipped, I think. Also, to perform those other skill-unlocked takedowns, you need to actually go to aiming mode and press the attack button. Unless you're referring to something else.

#52 Posted by nerdsbeware (223 posts) -

I played about an hour or so on Tuesday, but I was aiming to finish up Dead Space 3 first. On that note, I just spent like 4 hours playing DS3 so I think it's time for a break.

Also, as someone who doesn't own a PS3 (yet), I never got a chance to play the Uncharted series, so most of the combat and environment traversal feels pretty new and fresh for me. I'm really loving the game and can't wait to put some more time in with it. Next game I'm planning on playing is Bioshock so maybe I'll actually go for a nice 100% completion on this.

#53 Posted by rebgav (1429 posts) -

I am not actually playing the game, I finished it on Thursday. It's an adequate novelty but I'm not really looking forward to future iterations. Thought about trying some of the multiplayer but started playing Banner Saga: Factions instead.

The RPS review did an excellent job of expressing my views on the game for me.

#54 Posted by doublestandards (16 posts) -

rented it played it for less than an hour, moved on . everything it tried to do was already done by naughty dog a long time ago. It just has skill trees and "open world" linear areas one after another to give the illusion of depth

#55 Posted by golguin (3869 posts) -

@barrock said:

@ghostiet said:

@mildmolasses said:

@ghostiet said:

The game is fun. The writing isn't good and IMO they wasted a perfectly good characterization route for this new Lara, but I'm enjoying myself immensely.

I won't argue that the writing is good, but I am enjoying her character. And I think they do a great job of making it seem like she is doing things out of obligation to her friends rather than because she is good at it. Unlike Drake, things seem to actually phase her and it seems like things could go bad for her at any second. The broadcast tower is a good example.

I do think a lot of the ambient/incidental dialog is great (enemies yelling out "holy shit, she's a good shot" after making a headshot), and most of the combat scenarios are interesting, which I feel is a factor of it not being waves of enemies, but rather a small group. Really enjoying it, however something just popped up that may turn me against it. I guess I shouldn't be surprised by it, but I guess by virtue of it being a reboot, I thought it would be absent

The weird samurai monster and supernatural elements

My problem with her characterization is that they desperately try to push the angle of her being "changed" by the events. Problem is, she's already capable when she arrives at the island, so it's not even played as a "fish out of water" situation, where the city mouse has to suddenly live in a lethal environment. She also never gets called out on all that killing she does and apart from gaining some resolve and respect for her late father, the endeavor never really changes her that much. There's no reflection upon what happens, which is absolutely required when you are trying to write a story about trauma and how violence may fiddle with one's humanity. FC3 did that by making Jason's friends freak out when he giggles at all the carnage. Spec Ops has Walker degrade, until he's nothing more than someone screaming insults at his enemies. Hotline Miami turns off the music and reminds the player what was he doing in the frantic haze of killing and resetting at the end of every mission.

I agree, I do like the moments were her ability to survive and overcome odds is played triumphantly (like when she gets a grenade launcher), it's just that the game feels like they had two completely different concepts for the character arc and then just decided to put it in a cup, shake it and leave it mixed. I expected her to be more broken by the events both mentally and physically, until she no longer cares about anything else than surviving. But that transmission never happens nor is really highlighted - it's a similar problem the new DmC has, in that the main characters barely have real character arcs.

Shit, I wrote a lot about my thoughts on the matter in the Bombcast comments, I can forward you that if you want to talk about it more.

Mathias totally calls her on it in the end.

I could add to Lara getting called out for the killing by the incidental dialogue from the enemy encounters. There comes a point when a potential truce is proposed because of another threat and it ends before it begins. After that Lara is openly taunting the enemies during fights. I specifically recall her shouting, "That's right! I'm not dead!" when the enemies are surprised by their inability to kill her. They were also pretty bummed about Lara killing a specific guy and the enemies reference his death during future encounters with her.

To claim that "the endeavor never really changes her that much. There's no reflection upon what happens" seems completely unbelievable and I have to ask if you completely missed parts of the game.

#56 Posted by Zekhariah (697 posts) -

I'm about 7 hours in. Still think it is my favorite game in a long time.

It really does seem to embrace the fun side of being a video game. Like it does the movie inspired story parts, but not to the point of compromising the game play in service of story (pulling back the camera super far). And it still nails the shooty game portions.

#57 Posted by Guided_By_Tigers (8061 posts) -

Do you even lift?

#58 Posted by ripelivejam (3746 posts) -

so everything about this sounds damn great and i should probably pick it up soon, eh?

#59 Posted by TangoUp (307 posts) -

@ghostiet said:

@tangoup: You have to have the weapon equipped, I think. Also, to perform those other skill-unlocked takedowns, you need to actually go to aiming mode and press the attack button. Unless you're referring to something else.

Yes, I'm referring to that. When you unlock most of those counters, the game simply tells you to dodge and then press triangle or press the button shown on screen. I can't seem to do either. And anyway, how can you select the axe anyway? It's not a weapon you can select.

#60 Posted by Barrock (3525 posts) -

@tangoup said:

@ghostiet said:

@tangoup: You have to have the weapon equipped, I think. Also, to perform those other skill-unlocked takedowns, you need to actually go to aiming mode and press the attack button. Unless you're referring to something else.

Yes, I'm referring to that. When you unlock most of those counters, the game simply tells you to dodge and then press triangle or press the button shown on screen. I can't seem to do either. And anyway, how can you select the axe anyway? It's not a weapon you can select.

That's exactly what you do. If you want to do the shotgun one, have the shotgun equipped. It's just an evolution of the dodge stun.

#61 Posted by Korolev (1703 posts) -

Played it, finished it.

Liked: Lara's character is a lot better than in previous Tomb Raider games. The environments are great to look at, wonderful art direction. Some of the action sequences and set-pieces are pretty good. Generally alright traversal mechanics and combat mechanics.

Disliked: Puzzles are super-easy, "optional tombs" are very short, combat as a whole is also super easy, only becoming mildly difficult towards the end, QTEs are terrible.

It's alright. Brad's 4 out of 5 is pretty on-the-spot, considering that GB doesn't allow half-star reviews. I would have given it 3.5/5.

#62 Edited by Redbullet685 (6031 posts) -

I too am loving the Descent homages in this game. Definitely one of the best horror films of the 21st century.

#63 Posted by Morrow (1829 posts) -

Man, really wanting to play this game but I need to bide my time and wait....

Same here...

#64 Edited by Humanity (9026 posts) -

Do you even lift?

Yes, Lara weighs as much as 4 gas canisters apparently.

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#65 Posted by TangoUp (307 posts) -

So far, I think this Tomb Raider is a good start to the rebooted franchise. It is a little rough around the edges but it has good potential. I would like future titles to focus more on platforming and exploring ancient sites rather than fire-fights since that is what I always pictured TR to be about. Although one does have to wonder how you can turn platforming into a sandbox. There has to be an incentive for replaying other than trophies ...

And wolves are boring ... zzz

@barrock said:

@tangoup said:

@ghostiet said:

@tangoup: You have to have the weapon equipped, I think. Also, to perform those other skill-unlocked takedowns, you need to actually go to aiming mode and press the attack button. Unless you're referring to something else.

Yes, I'm referring to that. When you unlock most of those counters, the game simply tells you to dodge and then press triangle or press the button shown on screen. I can't seem to do either. And anyway, how can you select the axe anyway? It's not a weapon you can select.

That's exactly what you do. If you want to do the shotgun one, have the shotgun equipped. It's just an evolution of the dodge stun.

Got it. Just did the arrow counter on the giant dude on the ship.

#66 Posted by p00rdevil (158 posts) -

I just booted this game up last night on the PS3. I am relatively new to the console and I have never play any Uncharted game. I am generally a PC gamer and almost always pick the PC version of a game when I have that option. This time though I chose the PS3. Dang thing was 60 bucks! lol.

First of all I am impressed with how this game looks on the console. I play on a Sony super fine pitch CRT, which is a wide screen HDTV. I am stunned by how gorgeous this game looks and how fast and smooth it runs. The last game I played on my PS3 was Dark Souls and this game looks even better, so yea I am impressed!

My next impression was the production. This is a genuine AAA game. I haven't gotten too far into it, I am taking my time, trying to savor the experience ( I wanna get my $60 worth-- what if it's a short game! ) but I can tell right off the bat that Tomb Raider has a lot of money and talent behind it.

The last time I found myself moving through the jungle like this was in Metal Gear 3, so not having played Uncharted that is my comparison, or what Tomb Raider most reminds me of early on.

This game is very cinematic and coming off Dark Souls feels very guided. The two gameplay elements that keeps it from being a totally led by the hand experience are the puzzles, which have been cool ( I hope there are more of them ) and the fact that you need to explore the environment for upgrades. The overall path you follow is predetermined and the jumping, climbing, log walking, are all pretty much done for you. Press X and you are good to go. I am having fun with the game, it is enjoyable and I don't want to come off like I am feeling disappointed with TR, just making observations about the game design.

Most of my time has been learning to handle this bow in a efficient manner. Swinging the bow around quickly and getting a bead on an enemy is not easy with a DS and thumb stick. Been practicing on wolves. I have the option to run past them but I am determined to kill them all! Besides I need to get better with this bow.

#67 Edited by TangoUp (307 posts) -

Finally finished it. The end game is easily the best part of the campaign. I limited myself to using the bow and the pistol during the entire campaign to make it more challenging so fighting the samurai at the end was hectic stuff. We need more games like Uncharted and Tomb Raider. It's always fun to play through adventure games like these.

That said a lot of the XP, salvage and weapon modifications were superflous. Right now it just looks like a bullet point on the game description. Either they make the mechanic deeper or remove the shallow version they have now.

EDIT: btw, nice tip 'o the hat to Skyrim with the 'Former Adventurer' trophy.