Total War: Warhammer

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It isn't official, but people have been anticipating and expecting this for as long as the warhammer license and Total war are under one banner now.

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This seems to pretty much confirm that a Warhammer themed total war is coming up. I for one am stocked about this, and although Rome II was received with lukewarm reviews, (rightfully so) Atilla is shaping up to pretty good. (I'll admit that is just how they make it look, but seeing as they got Rome II ontrack with the Emperor edition... Who knows)

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Fuck. Yes.

Skulls for the Skull Throne!

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I'd play that.

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I wish it was 40k

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Yeah, I saw a post of this on reddit today. I can't wait for the official announcement.

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@corevi said:
@saucygiraffe said:

I wish it was 40k

That's the next step.

Maybe, I am not sure total war will go into a game that relies heavily on shooting. And I bet the campaign map doesn't work out so for for a 40k game. I guess you could do it with planets but I think that might feel weird, but it could work.
I don't think a 40k total war would be any good but that is just me. I am happy letting relic handle 40k. Although both the fantasy and 40k licence is under Sega now so.

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@corevi said:
@saucygiraffe said:

I wish it was 40k

That's the next step.

Maybe, I am not sure total war will go into a game that relies heavily on shooting. And I bet the campaign map doesn't work out so for for a 40k game. I guess you could do it with planets but I think that might feel weird, but it could work.

I don't think a 40k total war would be any good but that is just me. I am happy letting relic handle 40k. Although both the fantasy and 40k licence is under Sega now so.

There are plenty of melee units in 40k, and guns are pretty ineffective unless they are huge in which case they are similar to the artillery/siege weapons already in the series.

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I have no interest in Warhammer but I love the Total War games. I will play this for sure and it may even get me into the warhammer universe.

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#10  Edited By CheapPoison

Not saying it couldn't work. but the range balance would be tricky. There would be a real risk of making guns not worth it or able to mow down the majority of a unit before it reaches close quarters.

It could work, but for me personally 40k doesn't begin to hold a candle to warhammer. That being said that also comes from the tabletop, and one could argue at this point some would argue they also ran fantasy into the ground, but that is another discussion.

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@jayzilla said:

I have no interest in Warhammer but I love the Total War games. I will play this for sure and it may even get me into the warhammer universe.

It might be a good start. Dawn of War got me into the 40k fiction.

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@corevi said:
@saucygiraffe said:

I wish it was 40k

That's the next step.

Maybe, I am not sure total war will go into a game that relies heavily on shooting. And I bet the campaign map doesn't work out so for for a 40k game. I guess you could do it with planets but I think that might feel weird, but it could work.

I don't think a 40k total war would be any good but that is just me. I am happy letting relic handle 40k. Although both the fantasy and 40k licence is under Sega now so.

I actually think the strategic map would fit quite well, the campaign in dawn of war works in simillar fashion, i would hope they even take it a step further and have a star map, so you can move a fleet and take over planets. The first expansion would be the horus heresy... i need to stop i'm getting carried away.

Anyway, super hopefull for this to happen, i want to have 5000 dwarves in battle.

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#13  Edited By CheapPoison

@eladren said:

@cheappoison said:

@corevi said:
@saucygiraffe said:

I wish it was 40k

That's the next step.

Maybe, I am not sure total war will go into a game that relies heavily on shooting. And I bet the campaign map doesn't work out so for for a 40k game. I guess you could do it with planets but I think that might feel weird, but it could work.

I don't think a 40k total war would be any good but that is just me. I am happy letting relic handle 40k. Although both the fantasy and 40k licence is under Sega now so.

I actually think the strategic map would fit quite well, the campaign in dawn of war works in simillar fashion, i would hope they even take it a step further and have a star map, so you can move a fleet and take over planets. The first expansion would be the horus heresy... i need to stop i'm getting carried away.

Anyway, super hopefull for this to happen, i want to have 5000 dwarves in battle.

That is the thing, there needs to be a star map, cause with total wars scale you can't get away with all of the different races and factiosn fighting it out on one planet. Four or five is acceptable in dawn of war but.. You can't have 10-12 factions on one planet. well you could if the planet was big enough, but that would feel absolutely stupid.

My fear is that with a star system the limitations to jump from one system to the next might feel somewhat artificial. At the other hand you could add some fun side events or powers like Shadow of the warp.

I woudl also previously say that my favorite race would be very hard to implement. Taking the roaming horde mechanic that is about to be launched in Atilla might be a appropriate way to represent the tyranids. (Although It might be a bit much to leave planets as a baren wasteland after.)

That being said the Horus Heresy would indeed be pretty interesting as an expansion. Be it a small one like ceasar in Gaul or something like a full fledged full price expansion that includes titans.
Well, just all the fancy tools the space marines had back then. Might even be interesting to have 8 or 10 of the biggest legions represented, nothing else would have to be worked on.

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Hmm. I'm a big Total War fan so I'll definitely give this a shot, but Warhammer seems like the most juvenile, generic and unadventurous fantasy setting out there. Prove me wrong, Creative Assembly! (Also, you should take another stab at the Total Warrior/Viking formula. You were so close to making something great.)

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#15  Edited By Corevi

Hmm. I'm a big Total War fan so I'll definitely give this a shot, but Warhammer seems like the most juvenile, generic and unadventurous fantasy setting out there. Prove me wrong, Creative Assembly!

It's basically that but filtered through heavy metal art. Everything is as ridiculously awesome as possible.

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Hmm. I'm a big Total War fan so I'll definitely give this a shot, but Warhammer seems like the most juvenile, generic and unadventurous fantasy setting out there. Prove me wrong, Creative Assembly! (Also, you should take another stab at the Total Warrior/Viking formula. You were so close to making something great.)

There is some fun stuff in there. There are some fantasy setting that end up being way more generic in my opinion. Although a lot of fantasy setting are guilty of that.
I will give you that there is a ton of juvenile stuff in there. There are some gems in there though.

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I'm really excited for this. But most of all this makes me sad that Relic is dead :/ ... Dawn of War 2 was a really fucking good game :(

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I'm really excited for this. But most of all this makes me sad that Relic is dead :/ ... Dawn of War 2 was a really fucking good game :(

Are they? I thought they end up under Sega now? I am not sure how much is left of the actual people there.

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#19  Edited By Corevi
@cheappoison said:

@2headedninja said:

I'm really excited for this. But most of all this makes me sad that Relic is dead :/ ... Dawn of War 2 was a really fucking good game :(

Are they? I thought they end up under Sega now? I am not sure how much is left of the actual people there.

They are at Sega. Sega's acquisition of them is the reason they have the Warhammer license.

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#20  Edited By 2HeadedNinja

@corevi said:
@cheappoison said:

@2headedninja said:

I'm really excited for this. But most of all this makes me sad that Relic is dead :/ ... Dawn of War 2 was a really fucking good game :(

Are they? I thought they end up under Sega now? I am not sure how much is left of the actual people there.

They are at Sega. Sega's acquisition of them is the reason they have the Warhammer license.

Weird, I was totally sure they got killed after THQ died. Their website says "comming soon" ... well, maybe there is still hope. Relic was one of the few devs I would buy anything from unseen.

[edit:] seems like I got my timeline wrong, CoH2 was after THQ died, yay.

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#21  Edited By CheapPoison

@corevi said:
@cheappoison said:

@2headedninja said:

I'm really excited for this. But most of all this makes me sad that Relic is dead :/ ... Dawn of War 2 was a really fucking good game :(

Are they? I thought they end up under Sega now? I am not sure how much is left of the actual people there.

They are at Sega. Sega's acquisition of them is the reason they have the Warhammer license.

Actually. I am sure Sega had the warhammer licence for a while. Relic just brought the 40k licence with them. I might be wrong, but I thought there were rumors of a warhammer total war around 2012 when they actually got the right(I think) Or has thx been out of business that long?
On that topic, I am sure the right to 40 went to someone else while relic was in limbo. So I am nto sure that relic could make a strategy game based on 40k as I think slitherine or something might have that. all of it is very confusing.

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Why would they not call it Total Warhammer?

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I wish it was 40k

This this forever this. Would be amazing.

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@cheappoison: Sega definitely has the rights to 40k as they published Kill Team on Steam.

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@bollard said:

@saucygiraffe said:

I wish it was 40k

This this forever this. Would be amazing.

I forget there is non-40K warhammer, I'm upset now.

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@corevi said:

@cheappoison: Sega definitely has the rights to 40k as they published Kill Team on Steam.

They have some of the licence yes. They are also still working on the 40k mmo that is goign to end up stripped down and a solo experience or something.
But kill team is not a strategy game. I just thought here was something about the strategy licence going to slitherine because relic was in trouble.
That might be wrong. Like I said it is confusing, I can't keep up if the license is chopped up or not anymore.

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Haven't really gotten into any Total War games since the first Shogun. This sounds like the perfect opportunity. I'm very much in the 40k > WH camp (probably mostly due to DoW being glorious) but even a fantasy variant would surely catch my attention!

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I'm always more interested in historical than fantasy settings. Though considering my love for Total War I'm sure I'll end up buying it.

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@corevi said:

Skulls for the Skull Throne!

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!

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I like both types of Warhammer and I like Total War Games so hooray.

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#32  Edited By tikimorpher

Why would they not call it Total Warhammer?

Goddammit

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#33  Edited By DeathTrap

@mikemcn said:

@bollard said:

@saucygiraffe said:

I wish it was 40k

This this forever this. Would be amazing.

I forget there is non-40K warhammer, I'm upset now.

I hadn't noticed that this wasn't 40k until I saw this post. I am now sad.

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Gotta ring them bells for the Horned Rat, yo.

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I don't know. On one hand, it sounds like all my hopes and dreams. I'm a huge Total War and Warhammer fan. But after Rome 2... I don't know. They seem to have enough trouble with their animation system when everyone is human and has the same skeleton. But when they have orcs and Skaven in the mix... not to mention things like dragons and literal skeletons... just makes me a little weary that it won't turn out like I picture it.

Prove me wrong Creative Assembly! Make my dreams come true!