• 127 results
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
Avatar image for metal_mills
#1 Edited by Metal_Mills (3433 posts) -
No Caption Provided

E3 2012 footage vs March 2014 footage of the same scene. Holy fucking shit. What the hell has happened to this game? It was confirmed as PS4 footage too.

Here's the link to download the gif if it's too slow to load, it's pretty big. http://i.minus.com/iboqqHgyy5tOsD.gif

Avatar image for chaser324
#2 Edited by Chaser324 (8069 posts) -

I think you meant 'downgrade' and not 'download' - updated the title for you.

It is a pretty striking difference. Are we absolutely certain that these are both running on the same platform? Do you have links to each video that this GIF pulls from?

Moderator
Avatar image for toowalrus
#3 Posted by TooWalrus (13391 posts) -

I'd assumed the e3 stuff was all high-end PC footage.

Avatar image for abendlaender
#4 Edited by Abendlaender (3056 posts) -

I watched the video on Gamespot, and it seemed like a mix between the two. Not as good as 2012, not as "bad" as 2014. I don't really have an eye for that stuff though

Avatar image for metal_mills
#5 Posted by Metal_Mills (3433 posts) -

I think you meant 'downgrade' and not 'download' - updated the title for you.

It is a pretty striking difference. Are we absolutely certain that these are both running on the same platform? Do you have links to each video that this GIF pulls from?

Did I say download? I didn't even notice. My bad, thanks! :)

Here's the video of the downgrade: http://www.everyeye.it/ps4/articoli/watch-dogs_hands-on_21862

Avatar image for fushichou187
#6 Posted by Fushichou187 (151 posts) -

@toowalrus: I pretty much always assume that, especially if the title is intended as a multiplatform release.

Still, for Ubi to pull this as a launch title where there could have had a near 1:1 attach rate and take an additional 6 months-- presumably to make things look better-- yet trot out something that looks far inferior, is a huge disappointment. If this is the end result of all that polish, I can't wait for an insider at Ubi to leak footage of what the state of the game was last October.

Also, this doesn't bode well for The Division :(

Avatar image for flasaltine
#7 Edited by flasaltine (2351 posts) -

It happens with a lot of games. It is pretty dumb that people only complained about it with Aliens: Colonial Marines

Loading Video...

Avatar image for hailinel
#8 Posted by Hailinel (25787 posts) -

Wait, seriously? These are from the same platform? What an I looking at?

Avatar image for hammondoftexas
#9 Edited by hammondoftexas (1198 posts) -

That comparison is definitely shocking. I'll be able to max this game out on PC, so hopefully that's close to what they originally showed.

Avatar image for bisonhero
#10 Posted by BisonHero (10451 posts) -

Except for that randomly terrible looking Aisha Tyler Watch_Dogs trailer, almost all of the trailer footage has looked pretty much on par with the E3 2012 footage, and it has shown multiple difference scenarios and areas.

So either alllllll of that was complete bullshit, or high-end PC is somehow literally the only platform that could handle that game and not even the new consoles can manage it. The latter seems more likely, unless they stripped out all of the lighting and effects and textures for the sake of performance, even in the PC version where you can adjust those settings.

Avatar image for aetheldod
#11 Posted by Aetheldod (3914 posts) -

Woa ... that cant be right , I mean even GTA V has done better than that on the last gen

Avatar image for fear_the_booboo
#12 Posted by Fear_the_Booboo (861 posts) -

Never EVER trust previews. The game was most likely running on a high-end PC at events, and was running specific built just made for the event. As the game expanded, maybe they had to downscaled it to have the game run fine on consoles and PC.

It's still insanely disappointing, but not surprising.

Avatar image for spraynardtatum
#13 Edited by spraynardtatum (4363 posts) -

That looks 50% worse.

Avatar image for roboculus92
#14 Posted by roboculus92 (562 posts) -

Seems like Playstation Danmark has confirmed on twitter that the recent trailer was PS4 footage so there goes the hope of next-gen versions looking much better. The crazy part is I feel like the footage they showed from last year's e3 looked better than this and they showed tons of gameplay then so I don't know what the hell happened.

Avatar image for erhard
#15 Posted by erhard (493 posts) -

That looks bad.

Avatar image for kaos_cracker
#16 Edited by kaos_cracker (981 posts) -

@chaser324 said:

I think you meant 'downgrade' and not 'download' - updated the title for you.

It is a pretty striking difference. Are we absolutely certain that these are both running on the same platform? Do you have links to each video that this GIF pulls from?

Did I say download? I didn't even notice. My bad, thanks! :)

Here's the video of the downgrade: http://www.everyeye.it/ps4/articoli/watch-dogs_hands-on_21862

I just watched that video. Pretty sure that bridge was glowing because the game was telling him to jump it. Game still looks pretty good.

Avatar image for pr1mus
#17 Edited by pr1mus (4158 posts) -

GMG recommended requirements say GTX 460.

At first it sounds great because that's what i have and then you realise that this is a 4 years old card...

Avatar image for justin258
#18 Posted by Justin258 (14287 posts) -

The game play demos we've seen thus far were probably set in isolated areas with a specific set of things going on and were likely played on a super high end PC, allowing them to apply graphics options that most PC gamers will not be able to use, much less console gamers.

I can't be sure if they knew it or not - remember, these are new consoles and no one knows them that well yet, so perhaps they were overshooting. Or they really did know, I'm not sure.

Avatar image for wampa1
#19 Edited by Wampa1 (831 posts) -

@pr1mus: Didn't it use to require a 660? I could have sworn there were articles talking about "insane" minimal requirements.

Avatar image for banefirelord
#20 Posted by BaneFireLord (3175 posts) -

And the meteoric kludge of my interest in Watch_Dogs continues to plunge into the earth's core. With the exception of the antialiasing and the smooth framerate (if that GIF is even properly indicative of it), multiple last gen games (GTAV, for instance) look a damn sight nicer than that...the lighting and shadows in particular appear positively abysmal.

Avatar image for billymagnum
#21 Edited by billymagnum (900 posts) -

i think that games ship already sailed, leaving it at the dock where it will die cold, alone, and unable to ever live up to its original potential.

Avatar image for fredchuckdave
#22 Posted by Fredchuckdave (10121 posts) -

Probably just depends on the platform; it's hard to make boring modernity look good without ridiculously good graphics.

Avatar image for cloudymusic
#23 Posted by cloudymusic (1860 posts) -

That car model looks like it came out of a PS2 game.

Avatar image for soap
#24 Posted by Soap (3774 posts) -

Every time I say to myself I won't be fooled again by bullshots, and every time I am. Shame on me for being so naive still.

Avatar image for banefirelord
#25 Edited by BaneFireLord (3175 posts) -

@soap: Hey, you haven't bought it yet. No harm done.

Avatar image for chrisharris
#26 Edited by ChrisHarris (283 posts) -

I think this apparent problem is primarily caused by a change in the way they're doing the helicopter's searchlight. It's a tight beam in the old footage, which makes for more dramatic lighting/contrast. The new footage looks like the beam has become huge and covers most of the ground on the screen. We also never see the light in the original section of the GIF cross over the vehicle in a way which causes it to cast a visible shadow, whereas it is doing so pretty much the entire time in the new video. So, the shadows might have been the same the whole time and we just didn't get to see them.

Avatar image for mattyftm
#27 Posted by MattyFTM (14800 posts) -

The announcement videos would have been using a super high end PC. Really high end. One far more expensive than any normal consumer would ever own. Now they're showing footage from the PS4, a real world console that costs $400. It's hardly surprising there are differences.

Moderator
Avatar image for metal_mills
#28 Edited by Metal_Mills (3433 posts) -

@mattyftm said:

The announcement videos would have been using a super high end PC. Really high end. One far more expensive than any normal consumer would ever own. Now they're showing footage from the PS4, a real world console that costs $400. It's hardly surprising there are differences.

A new next-gen console. That looks like shit. Compare that footage to something like this from Sleeping Dogs.

No Caption Provided
No Caption Provided

Avatar image for mikey87144
#29 Posted by mikey87144 (2100 posts) -

@wampa1: Game probably wasn't optimized yet. The recommendations just seemed way too crazy for a game that is also going to be released on the PS3 and 360.

Avatar image for monkeyking1969
#30 Posted by MonkeyKing1969 (6139 posts) -

Meh, I'll believe this when I see it. In a few weeks people at Giant Bomb, Gamespot, IGN and other will have their hands on it. From what they video shows there are a few objects, like the line heads on the bridges removed, but everything else is lighting effects. If the engine running wasn't doing a final lighting pass it would look like that...if the final code can't handle the final lighting pass it would look like that too.

You can swear up and down that what you see is RUNNING on modern hardware...but running what? Beta code form a month ago? Final build from a day ago? Final build, ready to go gold w/dynamic lighting on/off? God only knows.

Just wait and see, and maybe expect the worse, but hope for the best. But, for f_cks sake, sit back and let it come closer to coming out before you stomp around whining.

Avatar image for joshwent
#31 Edited by joshwent (2897 posts) -

Maybe we don't have to all freak out about a 10 second clip we don't know anything about from an unfinished game?

Avatar image for youngfrey
#32 Posted by YoungFrey (1363 posts) -

Still might be fun. That's the part I care about.

Avatar image for spraynardtatum
#33 Posted by spraynardtatum (4363 posts) -

I'm actually offended. I per-ordered this game thinking it was going to be something better. The trailers and gameplay videos they showed for Watch_Dogs are in no way an acceptable representation of what it looks like they're releasing. Bullshot or vertical slice or whatever you want to call it, that was some deceiving shit.

Pre-order canceled and may God have mercy on Ubisofts soul.

Avatar image for xyzygy
#34 Posted by xyzygy (10595 posts) -

That lighting. It just makes the entire bland, muddy bridge texture light up like something from 1998. This can't be real... can it?

Avatar image for darklight
#35 Edited by Darklight (222 posts) -

I'm not normally one to complain but seeing this.... I realized how high my expectations for this game were.... The new art style, the road texture, the car details and the lightning effect... all of those are pretty ugly.

I kinda wish someone would come up, say that the footage is from the alpha and this was all a mistake.

Not sure I'm interested in this game anymore, will definitely wait to see more of it before making a decision.

Avatar image for korwin
#36 Posted by korwin (3837 posts) -

They have to be mislabeling the PS3/360 version, if you put that along side some like Infamous 3 it looks downright silly.

Avatar image for geraltitude
#37 Posted by GERALTITUDE (5669 posts) -

Looks very PS3/360... we sure it's not those versions?

Avatar image for amyggen
#38 Posted by AMyggen (7623 posts) -

That cross gen stink. It will probably end up looking good on a high end PC, but this looks like shit for a "graphical showpiece" on the current gen consoles. Maybe it was naive to think that what was shown at E3 was close to how the game would look on consoles, but Ubisoft sure as hell didn't exactly say otherwise.

Avatar image for atwa
#39 Posted by Atwa (1533 posts) -

Looks very PS3/360... we sure it's not those versions?

It has been said to be the PS4 version. Why would Ubisoft show the inferior looking versions anyway?

Avatar image for thehbk
#40 Edited by TheHBK (5670 posts) -

It looks ok to me. I am gonna be playing it on my Triple Titan Black rig.

Avatar image for korwin
#41 Posted by korwin (3837 posts) -

@thehbk said:

It looks ok to me. I am gonna be playing it on my Triple Titan Black rig.

Avatar image for werupenstein
#42 Posted by Kidavenger (4152 posts) -

The building on the left when you go over the bridge looks completely different between the two different versions which doesn't make sense, is there anyway to verify they are even the same game?

I'm betting the bridge is just a reused model that we are seeing compared in two different games.

Avatar image for jimbo
#43 Edited by Jimbo (10472 posts) -

Srsly? My toaster has better graphics than that.

Avatar image for grantheaslip
#44 Edited by GrantHeaslip (1869 posts) -

I don't care for Ubisoft Montreal games, so don't read this as a defense of Watch Dogs, but we're talking about a cherry-picked GIF from a compressed web video. This wouldn't be the first time that NeoGAF (I assume?) worked itself into a frenzy over a tiny sample of a game that turned out to be unrepresentative of the final product in aggregate. Remember the shitshow surrounding that performance analysis of a specific scene in Dead Rising 3?

If Watch Dogs turns out to be a disappointing game, I doubt it will have anything to do with this.

Avatar image for scroll
#45 Posted by Scroll (627 posts) -
Loading Video...

Avatar image for geraltitude
#46 Edited by GERALTITUDE (5669 posts) -

@atwa said:

@geraltitude said:

Looks very PS3/360... we sure it's not those versions?

It has been said to be the PS4 version. Why would Ubisoft show the inferior looking versions anyway?

I guess I'm just unclear on where this footage is from in the first place? This wasn't in the latest trailer was it?

I'd say that it'd be very smart to show the inferior versions sooner rather than later or you end up in this Titanfall situation where everyone is whispering about how the 360 version must look like complete garbage since it isn't being shown.

Avatar image for slag
#47 Edited by Slag (7249 posts) -

Wouldn't be the first time, graphics on a huge release didn't come close to matching the hype/previews.

If true definitely disappointing though.

Avatar image for gunslingerpanda
#48 Edited by GunslingerPanda (5156 posts) -

I dunno about you guys but I'll probably wait to play it myself before judging it rather than panicking over a five second gif.

Avatar image for dalai
#49 Posted by Dalai (7867 posts) -

We'll find out in a few months, guys. Stop with the panicking, people.

Avatar image for marokai
#50 Posted by Marokai (3563 posts) -

The lighting in all of these preview videos and images is what looks the most disappointing to me. It's like they just turned 90% of the lighting effects off.