#1 Posted by woo (45 posts) -

What I get for going to Gamestop I guess.  I'm sure I can get my money back tomorrow, but I have a question about my Live account.  Since I tried to sign in on the banned 360, will my account be banned as well? Or is it strictly the xbox that is banned? 
 
Thanks for any answers.

#2 Posted by DanielJW (4915 posts) -

I would bet the serial number or something get's banned. I thought you could only get banned from XBL, not the entire Xbox.

#3 Posted by ryanwho (12082 posts) -

I'm surprised anyone aware of the ban would be willing to buy a used 360. You really can't be surprised, like, at all.

#4 Posted by woo (45 posts) -
@ryanwho: I  stupidly put faith in Gamestop.
#5 Posted by primehunter326 (39 posts) -

I'm sure the banning of the live account is separate from the banning of a system.  I don't think signing into a banned xbox using a legit ID will ban the account as well, you just won't be able to get on live since the system is still banned.
 
You'd think gamestop would check for something like this, reselling a used console which essentially has all online functionality disabled is a blatant scam.  Given that this can happen, they should check that the console works and can get online before even buying it from the seller (and not buy the unit if it doesn't work).

#6 Edited by JoelTGM (5596 posts) -

to check if your account still works try signing onto the xbox live website.  You say you put faith in Gamestop, but it's funny that the real problem here is that Gamestop put faith in it's customers, by assuming the 360 they were given was functional after a quick test.  I guess they just didn't test it online with gold membership account.  Some dick out there thought he was going to screw stupid Gamestop over by giving them a banned 360.

#7 Posted by Bellum (2944 posts) -
@woo said:
" @ryanwho: I  stupidly put faith in Gamestop. "
 
What are they supposed to do, exactly? :/
 
Just ask for another one.
#8 Posted by clarke0 (1077 posts) -

Seriously though why the hell did you buy an Xbox at Gamestop?

#9 Edited by woo (45 posts) -
@clarke0: Because it was cheap, and my other Xbox RROD'd, and is somewhere in Texas.  I didn't plan on holding on to this one for very long anyway.  
 
Before anyone asks wtf did I buy another Xbox when I already have one, well, the answer is because my other one won't be back for about a month.  By then my classes will have started again, and I won't have time to play some of the games that recently came out.  Yes, I realize I'm losing money, but I rationalized it by telling myself that I can sell this Xbox when I get my original one back.  The difference that I lose will simply be a "rental" fee. 
 
Yes, I'm an idiot.
#10 Posted by Bellum (2944 posts) -

Play single player games for a month?

#11 Posted by Hailinel (24848 posts) -
@woo said:
" @ryanwho: I  stupidly put faith in Gamestop. "
I wouldn't blame Gamestop for this one.  They bought the used console and sold it to you, but there's nothing that says they have to verify that the console hasn't been banned from XBL.
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#12 Posted by Rowr (5665 posts) -
@Hailinel said:
" @woo said:
" @ryanwho: I  stupidly put faith in Gamestop. "
I wouldn't blame Gamestop for this one.  They bought the used console and sold it to you, but there's nothing that says they have to verify that the console hasn't been banned from XBL. "
Yeh dont listen to the guys saying its your fault for putting faith in gamestop, im pretty sure your entitled to some recompense.
#13 Posted by woo (45 posts) -
@Hailinel: That's true to an extent, but on the package, it says "Certified, Restored to Manufacturer's Original Condition". 
 
I didn't pay too much attention in my business law class, but I believe that to be an express warranty that my Xbox will work with full functionality as it did when it was brand new.  It does not, so they breached the warranty.  I can return the Xbox, so it's not really too big a deal, but it is inconvenient.  They can test a dummy gold account just as easy as they can test to see if the Xbox turns on. 
#14 Posted by Nasar7 (2687 posts) -

Or if the entire console is banned, like they've been doing recently, you can tell them to just try to sign in. It'll immediately say the the console has been banned.

#15 Posted by JJOR64 (18995 posts) -

And that is why I don't buy systems used.

#16 Posted by iam3green (14390 posts) -

that really sucks. i would say return it for a refund and just buy a new arcade. i deffently would not trust a used xbox seeing how there are a lot of problems with it.

#17 Posted by YetiAntics (1490 posts) -

buying a Used 360 ANYWHERE... and you are just asking for trouble. 
Fork over the extra $50+ for an Arcade.
#18 Posted by LaszloKovacs (1143 posts) -

Console bans and account bans are separate. Your account should be fine.
 
I guess we know why the dude sold his 360 to GameStop, though!

#19 Posted by spiceninja (3062 posts) -

Your first problem was buying a used system. One that is notorious for breaking and being unreliable. You should get a new one to have that 3 year warranty,

#20 Edited by TooWalrus (13203 posts) -

What pricks, it should be their responcibility to make sure their products aren't BUSTED before being sold. Hope you get your money back, man.
#21 Posted by wwfundertaker (1403 posts) -

Thats low, even for Gamestop.

#22 Posted by luce (4045 posts) -

Just ask for another one? Or call up microsoft and tell them you bought this console used so wipe all the records of it or something.
 
When i bought an Xbox360 used a couple years ago, I called them up and told them i bought it used and they renewed the 3 year warranty for me.

#23 Posted by karakuchi (22 posts) -

I was actually considering getting a used 360, not too long ago, but after reading this I'll just wait till I have the money to buy a new one.
#24 Posted by WinterSnowblind (7617 posts) -

I wouldn't blame Gamestop, so much as the people who are selling them.
But hopefully in the future they can check for this sort of thing, and just not accept them from people.
 
The people who were banned are the ones who should be blamed and punished

#25 Posted by AgentofChaos (1565 posts) -

Why on earth would buy a 360 used ever?

#26 Posted by FlamingHobo (4483 posts) -
@JJOR64 said:
" And that is why I don't buy systems used. "
Amen to that.
#27 Posted by Coombs (3449 posts) -
@woo said:
" @clarke0: Because it was cheap, and my other Xbox RROD'd, and is somewhere in Texas.  I didn't plan on holding on to this one for very long anyway.   Before anyone asks wtf did I buy another Xbox when I already have one, well, the answer is because my other one won't be back for about a month.  By then my classes will have started again, and I won't have time to play some of the games that recently came out.  Yes, I realize I'm losing money, but I rationalized it by telling myself that I can sell this Xbox when I get my original one back.  The difference that I lose will simply be a "rental" fee.  Yes, I'm an idiot. "
 
I did the same thing,
Of course my other one is sitting in my spare room now,
Never did get around to selling it....
#28 Posted by TheresaFitz89 (1 posts) -

@woo: This literally just happened to me too! We only went there because ours is getting fixed and we were going to take it back within seven days. I go to sign in and it says the console is banned I was like wow wtf! So I called my local gamestop that I just bought it at and the dumb girl was like you have to call microsoft! and gave me the number..I know microsoft is just going to say there is nothing they can do..So I'm going to get ahold of GameStops Customer Service and Flip the F##k out.

#29 Posted by The_Laughing_Man (13629 posts) -

@woo: This literally just happened to me too! We only went there because ours is getting fixed and we were going to take it back within seven days. I go to sign in and it says the console is banned I was like wow wtf! So I called my local gamestop that I just bought it at and the dumb girl was like you have to call microsoft! and gave me the number..I know microsoft is just going to say there is nothing they can do..So I'm going to get ahold of GameStops Customer Service and Flip the F##k out.

ya....not an account made JUST to flame gamestop at all....

#30 Posted by StarFoxA (5158 posts) -

@JJOR64

said:

" And that is why I don't buy systems used. "

Amen to that.

Well if you buy a Nintendo system used you have a chance of getting the previous owner's games, since it's tied to system and not to a user!

#31 Edited by Demoskinos (14842 posts) -

They should have a vetting process for this sort of stuff same as actually making sure the console works before accepting it. I mean they still DO do that right? Right?

#32 Edited by mosespippy (4186 posts) -

@starfoxa said:

@flaminghobo said:

@JJOR64

said:

" And that is why I don't buy systems used. "

Amen to that.

Well if you buy a Nintendo system used you have a chance of getting the previous owner's games, since it's tied to system and not to a user!

My friend bought a used PS3 that had some guys log in info saved with a valid credit card attached to the account.

#33 Edited by Svenzon (720 posts) -

@hailinel said:

@woo

said:

" @ryanwho: I stupidly put faith in Gamestop. "

I wouldn't blame Gamestop for this one. They bought the used console and sold it to you, but there's nothing that says they have to verify that the console hasn't been banned from XBL.

At least when I worked for Gamestop, we had no way of checking whether a console had been banned, since we had no actual Internet connection in the store. All we could do was check if it read discs properly and wasn't modded or anything.