Last Minute Cancellations post Resolution Gate?

Go to sleep.

You should just go ahead and cancel your games hobby if resolution means this much to you.

I've never been one to care about resolutions in my games that often unless it's on PC. Mostly because I was mainly playing on the 360/ps3 for most of this generation other than the last few years after I got my upgraded gaming PC. Even after I got a better PC it's mainly been playing a bunch of old pc games instead of the latest graphic heavy video game. Plus the only way I would really notice the difference is if I have two copies of the same game on the different platforms. I'll just play the game on the system I have and if the other version looks better... *shrug*

Going from glorious 1080p on PC to 720p on GTA5 was bad enough despite how beautiful that game was. If you don't think it's a big deal you are fooling yourselves.

I have a 720p TV anyway, so I won't notice. I'm excited about the games, service, and the whole soup in general. I'm still getting an XONE Day One at launch.

1080p? That's for plebes. Going from glorious 1600p to 1080p makes my eyes hurt.

Maybe you're fooling yourself about why you play games.

For those that aren't bothered by lower resolution are you guys also not bothered by aliasing? I know that some people simply don't notice stuff like that but, when it is bad, it's really distracting to me. From what I've seen of BF 4, though the aliasing in PS4 isn't perfect, it looks distracting in the X1 version. But maybe I'm just being picky.

@syed117:

People can play games for whatever they want. Even resolutions. That's a bit of a shitty comment dude.

I'm glad Syed117 says that gamers are short sighted! Because you know...gamers are short sighted except for the ones extolling the virtues of their favorite platform.

Please verify your pixel ratio in order to proceed through the Resolution Gate

@village_guy: Dude. If you know anything about video technology, it's not just numbers. You sound like the people who couldn't tell the difference between standard and high definition video when it was first coming out. Resolution is very important.

No

Still getting it day one, don't care about resolution and none of my friends care either. I feel most people don't care about this, but the only reason it seems like a big deal is because the only people who would make a huge deal over this sort of stuff are the guys who post on VG sites.

I really like the name Resolution Gate.

Resolution gate is stupid.

Buy the system that has the games that you want to play. Simple as that.

If you want to play Forza, Halo, Dead Rising or whatever? Get the One. Easy.

If you are going primarily Xbox at this stage, you can't be annoyed at the general consensus of it being in a shitty place compared to the competition. It is.. and thats on Microsoft. It's an inferior spec at a higher price and that's evident on the multiplat titles shown thus far. In a years time, developers will be much more proficient at using both systems resources and will produce better results. Sony's system will still be more powerful and will still have the potential of producing the better performing titles. You won't be playing Halo though.

@vinny_says: I would say yes that is exactly what is going on with WiiU (well, aside from lacking 3rd party support/casual moving on etc.) and again yes out of the three console the WIIU is the most promising console this holiday. What with Wind Waker, Wonderful 101, upcoming Bayonetta, pikmin and Super Mario 3d world.

I feel like this is very much like the hoopla surrounding backward compatibility before the launch of pS3 and Xbox. PS3 announced that their console would be backward compatible, and MS announced that theirs wouldn't. The internet flippout and people started screaming and crying and cancelling their pre-orders. "But, our studies show you don't USE backward compatibility!" MS said. "WAHH! AH! Why are you doing this!? We're cancelling pre-orders and going to Sony who understand us!" gamers replied. Then a couple of months later, Sony says "actually, we're stopping backward compatibility to save money. Besides, our studies show you guys don't use it." Then a year later, nobody even remembers it.

Visuals only get you so far. They never make a game, they just make it look good. That's always been the case and it hasn't changed.

You think anyone will care about these games and what they look like in 10 years? My point is that these things don't matter. Gameplay matters. The experience matters. If someone doesn't like the ps4 controller or if they have friends on xbox live, is that more important, or that the ps4 version is the superior port?

Did it matter last gen for all the Sony fans? They ignored a lot more than just bad ports. A bad controller and a bad online service. Now those things matter just because the PS4 versions will be better? We don't even know about controllers or the online services yet.

There are tons of people on this forum and others who only had a ps3 and never a 360. Why? That's all I want to know. If all these things are so important now, why didn't they matter then? Inferior ports, inferior controller, inferior online service. Yeah, I have a ps3 for exclusives and I'm glad I do, but everything else was played on 360. It's not like there is some incredible Sony platform exclusive at launch. There isn't one for xbox one either.

No. I haven't cancelled either pre order and I don't plan on it. I'm fortunate enough to be able to have both at launch and my multiplatform decisions will be made based on my friends for multiplayer and other things for single player.

The Sony fans carried this ridiculous chip on their shoulder for the past 7 years. Never able to justify their console which launched for $500 while the 360 at $300. The console that was $200 cheaper had better performance in almost all third party games. Apparently it wasn't a big deal then, but it means everything now. Now the games don't even matter. Just what resolution they are running at.

That's what I can't stand about these people. They are hypocrites.

It still has DLNA!

I was getting PS4 from the get go, and if I can get the extra money with some things I'm trying to sell before the Xbone comes out, I'll buy that outright too at launch. While I'm getting both and care about the games first and foremost, it is kinda disappointing that the system looks like at least for a while, it can only still do 720p.

I do most of my gaming on my gaming PC, and not having 1080/60 AT LEAST is definitely a bit of a bummer. I'll probably get most console multiplatform games on PS4 or PC is just how it'll be. People don't seem to know so but 720 to 1080 is a huge fucking gap in quality, it really is.

Right now for me its KI and Forza vs Killzone, I have already played the Xbox One and will be trying the PS4 next Thursday (Killzone won't be there) after that I guess I will have to actually make a choice..

If your friends are a the major reason for your pre-order, bigger than say your interest in any game, I would cancel too since you're not going to be playing with them. I wouldn't cancel merely for resolution though.

Considering a $600 PC runs everything current games fine at 1920x1080, yeah there should be concerns. Not because of the resolution specifically, but these consoles (both of them) should be more powerful than they are. Sony and MS opted to take a profit on the hardware sales (which are normally a loss at launch), and that shows in the power of the systems.

That being said, console gaming is a beast and developers will make it work. Launch games are always bad, and they don't represent what the console is truly capable of. Nothing is optimized like it will be once developers get more experience with these machines. XBox 360 had games running at less than 720p early in it's life (Halo 4 is the only HD game in the series), and it did just fine.

Buying a launch console isn't a great idea (though I am getting a PS4 at launch). I'd be more worried about those small hard drives and huge game installs than the resolution of early games. Games will be better optimized in the future, but install sizes don't get smaller. I'm sure there will be higher capacity versions at a lower price in the next couple years. You buy launch consoles because you like new things and want to be part of the experience, not for it's value.

To me "Resolution Gate" is an interface button in Maya to box out the space your camera will render in the viewport. This post left me so confused.

I can't express how much I fucking hate the thing where people think they are clever by calling ever controversy whatever "gate".

Not calling out the OP specifically, just the idea in general.

It doesn't make any goddamn sense, and even if it did, it still wouldn't be clever. Calling this "resolution gate" or the Patriots illegal filming "spygate" doesn't make an ounce sense in the context of the reference. Watergate was the name of the hotel, it wasn't a scandal about water. Just calling something "insert topic gate" takes no creativity and doesn't mean a fucking thing in the context of anything.

Sorry. This is just something that bugs the shit out of me and every time I see I feel the need to vent, carry on.

I did preorder PS4 over Xbox One, because I feel like I'll get more for my money. More power at a lower price. In the case of Call of Duty: Ghosts and Battlefield 4, I indeed get more for my money. More pixels that is. If anything these circumstances reaffirmed that the reasons I decided to buy into PS4 over Xbox One hold true.

If you got different reasons than me for buying into one or the other next gen console, it might well be that Xbox One is still the one for you - though I don't think it's silly of your friends to be swayed in direction PS4 by this. It's simply true, Playstation 4 has the stronger hardware, and it will show in multiplatform games - as we see in Battlefield 4 and Call of Duty: Ghosts.

So if right now you only buy one of the two consoles, going with the one that'll likely have the better looking better running games for the lower asking price is the smart choice. Don't fault your friends for thinking so too. Though I'm sure you'll be happy on Xbox One too. It'll play all the same games, and it'll play 'em well enough, just a little more dingy.

yes.... but tell that to the general populace who refuse to buy that thing for some reason (not me, I'm here waiting for that Mario to come out already). I'm just wondering, if the WiiU had anything better than New Mario at launch then maybe nintendo wouldn't need to rely on the 3DS so much.

@ll_exile_ll:

Hey guys, remember the rant-gate on the Giantbomb forums on 11/4?

I'm with you. I hate the internet's obsession with trying to be cute and clever. It's borne out of a want for attention and it's just annoying.

@jazgalaxy said:

I love the weasel words here. "Functionally the same." N64 games were also "functionally" the same as most Ps1 games, it certainly didn't make them enjoyable to look at or play at 20fps. The Ps2 version of Resident Evil 4 was also functionally the same as the Gamecube version; it didn't mean there wasn't flatter textures, significantly fewer environmental objects, and almost entirely static lightning.

Also, the "Ps3 was supposed to be more powerful" argument was always dumb. The Ps3 has a stronger and weird CPU that comes out in first-party games but the 360 actually does have the better GPU, which is half the reason multiplatform games tend to perform better on the system. Microsoft went in focusing entirely on getting a strong GPU into their system, kept the rest of the architecture simple, and released cheaper than their main competition. Familiar?

Unless you count the differences between Wii and current gen systems, there has never been a technical divide so significant between the two. In an age where 95% of all games come out of multiple platforms, it makes sense that some people prefer to get games on the better system, which is why I bought most of my games on the 360 this generation. This isn't an argument trying to win you or everyone over, it's just about trying to understand why other people might prefer to get the more powerful, cheaper system. Yeah, the Xbox One's games will be functionally the same, they'll still look good, but some people don't want to spend $100 more for "eh, it's fine" when their competition is offering much more impressive tech. Only to a console warrior would that not make sense.

This. I mean, it is a difference, and don't get me wrong, I realize it's not as good. But part of me doesn't give a shit. When I plug in my PlayStation (one) my first thought isn't to count the pixels. I might have a moment of "hey, games have come a long way" but then it's up to the quality of the product to carry it.

If anyone actually cancelled their pre-order after this dumb Resolution thing, oh god.

@valeyard: depends on the game. As the reports are saying the Ps4 games like COD are suffering from frame rate issues.

I want both consoles eventually but could only buy one at launch. I had to prioritize, and when I heard games were running and looking better on PS4 it did sway me that direction. The vast majority of games we play are third party ones available on both consoles, so it makes sense to me to get those in the best versions possible. Ironically that's why I prioritized Xbox 360 last around.

I'll look to get the Xbox One next holiday season, or shortly after, once some more exclusives are out.

Don't care even a little.
Visuals are a very secondary thing for me.
I just want fun games. XB1 has games that look fun to me. So I'm gettin' it.
S'very simple.

Slapping the word "gate" on the back of every piece of internet drama is the same brand of dumb as the media's obsession with dubbing every issue with "The war on...". (the war on Christmas, etc)

Why did I cancel mine? Microsoft's embargos. Even if the games ultimately look just fine compared to PS4, there seems to be some shady shit going on, and it's best to wait that out.

@trilogy: Resolutiongategate?

I think that eventually resolution will not end up mattering as much if the X1 can pump out nice looking games, but it is a worrying trend at this launch. To see such a big difference at the beginning of the generation leads people to believe that the gap can widen even further over time.

@burningstickman: The embargo's were clearly only for marketing purposes and to be honest you are an idiot if you thought otherwise. They now have had pretty much blanket coverage this week, which is super impressive considering their main rival released only 4 days ago now. All you have heard about is either poor/average PS4 games, PS4 failures or good/great Xbone games.