Forza Motorsport 4 Announced

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#1 Posted by Baillie (4565 posts) -

Man, they really are the complete opposites of PD aren't they? HEY KAOS. You better watch out! 
 
Discuss, I guess. Where's the wiki page!?

#2 Posted by bigsmoke77 (839 posts) -

It was just "annouced" and nothing was said, I don't think we need a wiki page as soon as fucking possible.

#3 Edited by Protoroll (381 posts) -

Can't fucking wait dude!

#4 Posted by Baillie (4565 posts) -
@bigsmoke77: Some people need to chill out. 
#5 Posted by KaosAngel (14251 posts) -

Why are you calling me out?   
 
I don't care...and considering that GT5 outsold the top selling Forza game in it's first 12 days, the majority of driving fans don't care either.

#6 Posted by handlas (2868 posts) -

wuts up with callin people out :o
 
it looked...good?  I guess?  Dunno, no gameplay.  The logo looked like Forza 3 tho.

#7 Posted by supermike6 (3752 posts) -

I bet there will be cars. 
 
Also, customization?

#8 Posted by Hailinel (25787 posts) -
@bigsmoke77 said:
" It was just "annouced" and nothing was said, I don't think we need a wiki page as soon as fucking possible. "
I'm finding it hilarious that I'm reading this thread after it was moved to the brand new Forza Motorsport 4 page.
#9 Posted by Trace (3672 posts) -

Looking forward to this, naturally. Here's hoping there's some major additions to Forza 4, like weather on all tracks, day-to-night cycle on all tracks, open-wheel cars, or more than eight in multiplayer. Hoping for one or more of those, but more of Forza 3 with more tracks and more options would be enough to ensure a purchase for me.
 
Race Night will never die!

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#10 Posted by Baillie (4565 posts) -
@KaosAngel: You're input always has some sort of impact, lol. You were the driving force behind at least 2 million of those GT5 copies.
#11 Posted by bigsmoke77 (839 posts) -
@KaosAngel:  this is why I hate GT5 fanboys
#12 Posted by EvilTwin (3312 posts) -
@Baillie said:
" Man, they really are the complete opposites of PD aren't they?"
I'm not sure that we should be applauding a company's ability to churn out sequels.  I can't really tell if that's what you're doing, though.
#13 Posted by TooWalrus (13302 posts) -
@bigsmoke77 said:
" @KaosAngel:  this is why I hate GT5 fanboys "
All 3 of them?
#14 Posted by JJWeatherman (14789 posts) -
@EvilTwin said:
" @Baillie said:
" Man, they really are the complete opposites of PD aren't they?"
I'm not sure that we should be applauding a company's ability to churn out sequels.  I can't really tell if that's what you're doing, though. "
When they're as good as the Forza series, then what's the problem? 
 
I'm pumped! (still need that last achievement on 3, though...)
#15 Posted by Baillie (4565 posts) -
@EvilTwin: Nah, just saying one company does a game in 6 years, another does 4 in 6 years.
#16 Edited by CptBedlam (4466 posts) -
@KaosAngel:  The Jonas Brothers sold shitloads of their crap, too. Sales numbers are not an indicator for quality and GT5 is just leeching it's sales from former glory, back in the days when it still was the best driving game out there. Not anymore.
#17 Posted by TheHBK (5657 posts) -

Doesn't matter.  GT5 was obsolete 4 years ago.

#18 Posted by RedSox8933 (2501 posts) -

I just bought Forza 3. 
 
Fuck.

#19 Posted by Guyzea (801 posts) -
BEST SELLING=QUALITY
Also, I'm only 40% done with Forza 3. Gonna have to pick up the pace.
#20 Posted by KaosAngel (14251 posts) -
@CptBedlam: ...but people who drive and race love GT5.  Just people you don't, doesn't mean the driving community hates it.  Professional drivers have stated GT5 is the best driving sim out there, and when the world's top driver Sebastian Vettel goes on record with it, it doesn't matter at the end. 
 
Just because casuals can't keep it, doesn't make it any less.  Sure gamers hate it, but people who drive cars love it.  GT5 has always been about the hardcore driving simulation. 
 
Let me know when F1 drivers go on record on saying how good Forza is. 
#21 Posted by Fripplebubby (1050 posts) -
@supermike6 said:
" I bet there will be cars. "
Risky... But I like it!
#22 Posted by CptBedlam (4466 posts) -
@KaosAngel: 
You love eating up all that marketing-BS, do you? Grow up, kiddo...
#23 Posted by Trace (3672 posts) -
@JJWeatherman said:
" When they're as good as the Forza series, then what's the problem? 
 
 I'm pumped! (still need that last achievement on 3, though...) "
My thoughts exactly on the former. The jumps Forza has made, especially the physics between 2 and 3, have made the game leaps and bounds better each time for me.
 
Coincidentally, I was working on Solid Gold in Forza 3 instead of watching the VGAs, since I didn't expect this announcement. Over a year later, and I'm still only 73.9% done with career mode. I think I need to set a goal for S-ranking Forza 2 and 3 before 4 comes out, just so I don't leave too many unfinished racing sims in my wake.
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#24 Posted by RsistncE (4499 posts) -

I'm assuming they're trying to capitalize on the failure of GT5. 

#25 Posted by EvilTwin (3312 posts) -
@JJWeatherman:  Sure, but after awhile the updates become too frequent and incremental to really get anyone excited about the game.  Even if it is good.
 
@Baillie: There's something to be said for timeliness, but some of the most highly regarded developers are the most notoriously perfectionist ones (e.g. Blizzard, Valve).
#26 Posted by KaosAngel (14251 posts) -
@CptBedlam: ...yeah, cause Vettel admits he enjoys GT games more than the official F1 games.  It has nothing to do with marketing, even before GT5, F1 drivers have said they prefer GT during their free time.    
   
Again, let me know when F1 drivers admit to enjoying a Forza game.  Surely Microsoft's big money can do it, right?
#27 Posted by MordeaniisChaos (5904 posts) -
@KaosAngel said:
" @CptBedlam: ...but people who drive and race love GT5.  Just people you don't, doesn't mean the driving community hates it.  Professional drivers have stated GT5 is the best driving sim out there, and when the world's top driver Sebastian Vettel goes on record with it, it doesn't matter at the end.  Just because casuals can't keep it, doesn't make it any less.  Sure gamers hate it, but people who drive cars love it.  GT5 has always been about the hardcore driving simulation.  Let me know when F1 drivers go on record on saying how good Forza is.  "
Yeah, it's just too bad that as a whole product it was lazy, sloppy, and desperately trying to capture the very audience you are talking about. 
There is also the fact that GT5 is a lot newer than Forza 3, so I'll wait till Forza 4 comes out to see if they manage to meet the pavement track simulation of GT5.
#28 Posted by CptBedlam (4466 posts) -
@KaosAngel said:
" @CptBedlam: ...yeah, cause Vettel admits he enjoys GT games more than the official F1 games.  It has nothing to do with marketing, even before GT5, F1 drivers have said they prefer GT during their free time.       Again, let me know when F1 drivers admit to enjoying a Forza game.  Surely Microsoft's big money can do it, right? "
Man, you really are a bigger tool than I thought.
 
Those guys "play" the games they get paid for playing. Vettel even has his own event in GT5. You are just one big consumerism sheep.
#29 Posted by Agent_Lost (908 posts) -

Also, there a Top Gear logo at the end of the trailer.

#30 Posted by Colin (709 posts) -
@KaosAngel:   Don't forget about PC Racing Sim's. :(    iRacing is fairly popular with professional drivers but then again that could just be sponsor marketing bullshit too.
#31 Posted by Baillie (4565 posts) -
I heard some wrestlers LOVE the Smackdown vs Raw games. That instantly means they are awesome. AWESOME. Go buy them. 
 
Let's all get along.
#32 Posted by PaperRaptor (11 posts) -
@KaosAngel said:
" @CptBedlam: ...yeah, cause Vettel admits he enjoys GT games more than the official F1 games.  It has nothing to do with marketing, even before GT5, F1 drivers have said they prefer GT during their free time.       Again, let me know when F1 drivers admit to enjoying a Forza game.  Surely Microsoft's big money can do it, right? "
I rarely ever post on these forums but your post just made me laugh. 
It is so self-defeating it's embarrassing...
#33 Edited by KaosAngel (14251 posts) -
@CptBedlam: ...whatever bro.  Everyone said GT5 wouldn't sell and there was no community for it, and it ended up outselling the top selling Forza game in the first 12 days while also becoming the top selling PS3 exclusive, despite having the worst launch in gaming history and middle ground reviews.  You can say whatever you want, I'll be enjoying GT5 with my G27 racing wheel and 7.1 audio.  
#34 Posted by KaosAngel (14251 posts) -
@Colin: iRacing only has like 20 cars and 6 tracks...and no F1.  >.> 
 
How do you have a driving simulator without the apex of driving?
#35 Edited by CptBedlam (4466 posts) -
@KaosAngel said:

" @CptBedlam: ...whatever bro.  Everyone said GT5 wouldn't sell and there was no community for it, and it ended up outselling the top selling Forza game in the first 12 days while also becoming the top selling PS3 exclusive, despite having the worst launch in gaming history and middle ground reviews.  You can say whatever you want, I'll be enjoying GT5 with my G27 racing wheel and 7.1 audio.   "

So the brand "Gran Turismo" is well known ... what a shocker!! 
 
GT5 could've been a 50%-product and it would've sold the same numbers.
 
"Gran Turismo" exists about 10 years longer than "Forza". Of course, it has has a larger fanbase.
#36 Posted by JJWeatherman (14789 posts) -
@EvilTwin said:
" @JJWeatherman:  Sure, but after awhile the updates become too frequent and incremental to really get anyone excited about the game.  Even if it is good.  "
I don't know about you, but a Forza game every 2 years is absolutely peeeerfect. Perfect amount of time.
#37 Edited by Trace (3672 posts) -
@KaosAngel said:

" Everyone said GT5 wouldn't sell... "

I don't care to get too involved in this silly argument that has nothing to do with Forza 4, but I don't think anyone reasonable said GT5 wasn't going to sell. Hell, even I figured it would wildly outsell Forza on name recognition alone. If anything, people were questioning whether it would be good or not, and considering the response post-release, I don't think that argument has been perfectly settled.
 
@Agent_Lost said:

" Also, there a Top Gear logo at the end of the trailer. "

Personally, I'm wondering just how much they'll get Top Gear involved in Forza 4, since they gained Top Gear's support pretty late into Forza 3's life cycle. I assume most people will want that test track, but personally, I'm hoping they find a way to include that road in Eastern Europe that was called the best driving road ever. Long tracks is something Forza's really good with, especially in multiplayer, and I'd love to see them take advantage of that.
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#38 Posted by ez123 (2008 posts) -

That trailer is a bigger nothing than the Del Toro trailer and that game is coming out in 2013.  Logo's cool.

#39 Posted by PrivateIronTFU (3858 posts) -

Again, are you all just morons with thumbs up your asses? Or do you really believe that you can only like one or the other? I don't understand this shit.

#40 Posted by HistoryInRust (6511 posts) -

Remember that one time you had to unlock damage in Gran Turismo? 
 
I'll bet that's not a feature in Forza.

#41 Posted by FancySoapsMan (5875 posts) -

I wish I wasn't so bad at racing games. I'd be more excited.

#42 Posted by EvilTwin (3312 posts) -
@JJWeatherman said:
" @EvilTwin said:
" @JJWeatherman:  Sure, but after awhile the updates become too frequent and incremental to really get anyone excited about the game.  Even if it is good.  "
I don't know about you, but a Forza game every 2 years is absolutely peeeerfect. Perfect amount of time. "
Eh, I think 2 years is about the time it takes to release a polished big budget sequel these days.  Just enough time to make some improvements and add a few new features, but not really enough time for innovation.  Anyways, I have no problem with the Forza series whatsoever, and I'm not trying to accuse Turn 10/MGS of milking Forza or anything.  I was just trying to counter the idea (which I hear frequently) that Turn 10 being able to release X number of games in the time it takes Polyphony to make one is some sort of black eye for Polyphony.  The only problem I had with GT5's release is that it was announced and pushed back so many times.  Otherwise, I very much like developers to have the ability to take as much time as they want to make a game.
#43 Posted by Burns098356GX (1366 posts) -
@KaosAngel said:
" @CptBedlam:  and when the world's top driver Sebastian Vettel goes on record with it, it doesn't matter at the end.
A big stack of cash always helps.
#44 Posted by Trace (3672 posts) -
@PrivateIronTFU said:
" Again, are you all just morons with thumbs up your asses? Or do you really believe that you can only like one or the other? I don't understand this shit. "
It's what happens when you get highly devoted fans of one series going up against another group of fans of another series. I think there's a term for that, but I'm going to pretend it's slipping my mind.
 
Seriously, though, I'm with you. I wouldn't mind playing GT5 alongside Forza 3 at the moment, but the cost for me to properly enjoy GT5 is a bit prohibitive, lacking a PS3 and all. I just want both games to feed off the additions and improvements of one another for better sim racing games overall.
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#45 Edited by Six (620 posts) -

I would like some more Forza.  I have GT5 from gamefly, and i just can't get into it like I did Forza 2, and more so, Forza 3.
I hope they keep with the ability to pick cars I like, and be able to race them in whatever events are available, like in Forza 3.  I am not sure why the Forza games worked so well for me, but, I would probably buy Forza 4 sometime in the first week of its release. 

#46 Posted by Baillie (4565 posts) -
@EvilTwin: Yeah, you say that. Then there's games like Call of Duty, Assassin's Creed, Uncharted...
#47 Posted by kives34 (110 posts) -

GT5 Sucks!!! Just kidding couldn't help my self after seeing the fanboy war going down in here. 
 
Anyway going back on topic I have been trying Forza 3 for awhile now and starting to get the hang of it and love how it gives non-hardcore racing game fans away into the genre (always wanted to try and get into the genre and never could really get the hand of other games). So I a optimistic for this game and I hope they add cool features to it. Also why is it always when two games are in the same genre that if you like one game you have to consider te other one crap?
#48 Posted by EvilTwin (3312 posts) -
@Baillie said:
" @EvilTwin: Yeah, you say that. Then there's games like Call of Duty, Assassin's Creed, Uncharted... "
Not sure I follow. 
#49 Posted by niamahai (1409 posts) -
@kives34 said:
" GT5 Sucks!!! Just kidding couldn't help my self after seeing the fanboy war going down in here.  Anyway going back on topic I have been trying Forza 3 for awhile now and starting to get the hang of it and love how it gives non-hardcore racing game fans away into the genre (always wanted to try and get into the genre and never could really get the hand of other games). So I a optimistic for this game and I hope they add cool features to it. Also why is it always when two games are in the same genre that if you like one game you have to consider te other one crap? "
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#50 Posted by LosDub (224 posts) -

so only game footage shown in the trailer during the VGA's was the same that we all saw during their E3 demo with the kinect

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