In Case You're Wondering Why There Are No Porsches in Forza 4, it's Because of EA

#101 Posted by PJ (1158 posts) -

@Brodehouse: The sim-racing genre is a bit different. The inclution of licenced cars is a huge part of the experience(since its simulating real-life racing and you can't do that with fake cars) and its not like the gameplay in Forza will suffer by them adding cars.

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#102 Posted by IrrelevantJohn (1105 posts) -

Fuck off EA! If we can't get Porche in Forza 4 now, so what about the Pagani Huayra? The Huayra is an amazing car but apparently it's exclusive to Shift 2.

#103 Posted by wickedsc3 (1046 posts) -

Im fine with Ruf. They are Porsche bodys and chassis with parts RUF makes in house put into them. Also, keeping Porsche's out of Forza 4 is not going to make me buy shift2 or shift3. So go ahead EA, ive already preordered the collectors edition of F4, and none of your racing games.

#104 Posted by PJ (1158 posts) -

@Buzzkill said:

EA is starting to make Activision look good.

Not to defend EA on this matter(because its kind of a dick move but still completly understandable) but them preventing competators from using a license that they own vs. running every single gamefranchise into the ground and taking a studio and putting it to work on a game genre thats not really in their wheelhouse and then closing it when the game doesn't perform well is totally the same thing.

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#105 Posted by Tennmuerti (8175 posts) -

How easy it is to slip back into your old habits.

#106 Posted by darkjester74 (1603 posts) -

EA is downright delusional if they think Shift can hold a candle to Forza in the sim department.
#107 Posted by Maelstrom (38 posts) -

As they are well known for, total dick move by EA. But I also don't buy this Turn 10 stooges spin on the matter. 
 
" Forza had the exclusive license for all Ferrari cars, for example, on the Xbox and PC platforms. But at the end of the day, we’ve always found that we just weren’t willing to block other racing games from having Ferraris outright, as we believed that this would do nothing but hurt the racing ecosystem."
 
Sure, Microsoft just bought the exclusive rights to the Ferrari license not because they wanted to deny it to competitors but because they wanted to help the racing ecosystem. Right. I'm calling bullshit. Walk the walk Turn 10 before you start talking the talk with regards to other assholes wielding exclusive rights.

#108 Posted by MisterMouse (3574 posts) -

that sucks, but EA can technically do that.

#109 Posted by hustlerlt (335 posts) -

And that's why I hate EA.They try to license as many things as possible and then don't let anyone make good games.They got the NFL license and always make crappy Madden games,when 2k were making unbelievable football games.Also they got the license to the NBA All-Star weekend,so NBA 2k can't use their great slam dunk contest mechanics,they also have the FIBA license,so they have all the national teams although the rosters don't even look like in real life.Now they don't allow one of the greatest racing sim franchises to use Porsche,because they want to compete with their crappy Shift "simulator" series(?).

#110 Posted by bigsmoke77 (791 posts) -

@Munkatten: u mad bro?

#111 Posted by Sander (413 posts) -

Fuck EA and screw Porsche.

#112 Posted by bombHills (632 posts) -

This is dissapointing news. Can't MS share the Ferrari and EA the Porshe?
 
Sharing is caring....

#113 Posted by andrewf87462 (595 posts) -

That is a shame, damn you EA!
#114 Posted by Jerome85 (258 posts) -

The same reason why we don't have a Porsche in iRacing.  Damn you EA!

#115 Posted by d1sc0nnected (10 posts) -

I don't really care about Porsches, but really? REALLY EA?

#116 Posted by PrivateIronTFU (3874 posts) -
@GreggD: Uh...that's what it is...so yes, that's what I'm calling it.  
 
Here, let me help you. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hookah
#117 Posted by Grognard66 (66 posts) -

It seems that after finally starting to get the gaming community to not see them as the Evil Empire, EA are now making every effort to reclaim that crown from Activision.

#118 Posted by RenaissanceXD (45 posts) -

@SaintMits said:

Who the fuck wants a Porsche anyway?

THIS

They make some ugly cars....

#119 Posted by Vinny_Says (5729 posts) -

The spyder and Carrera are cool porsches that look unique, shame they won't appear.

#120 Posted by IrrelevantJohn (1105 posts) -

@bombHills: Well to give Microsoft credit they do share Ferrari just not in illegal racing games.

#121 Posted by Devil240Z (3462 posts) -

HAHAHA Suck it Failza!

#122 Posted by Poki3 (530 posts) -

EA, why you being such a dick lately?

#123 Posted by IrrelevantJohn (1105 posts) -

@Maelstrom: How can you call it bullshit if GT5 had all the Ferrari that you would actually want? Even Shift 1 had Ferrari at one point.

#124 Posted by MattBosten (497 posts) -

So EA are now doing to racing games what they've already done to football (soccer) games? Great! *sigh*

#125 Edited by Valru (91 posts) -
EA is doing nothing with their Porsche license.

Forza 3: 35 Porsche models
NEED FOR SPEED -  Shift 2: 10 Porsche models 
NEED FOR SPEED - The Run: 5 Porsche models

Shift 3 is not coming since EA has cut of Slightly Mad Studio's funding and support for Shift2, they have also said they cannot release patches because EA doesn't have the time to Q/A them.

Meanwhile, neither iRacing on PC, Forza 4 on the 360, or GT5 on the PS3 have Porsche cars. 
#126 Posted by EpsilonSE (179 posts) -

Activision running franchises into the ground, Ubisoft DRM-ing their games to death, EA castrating virtual resources for their sense of deluded grandeur, and GameStop looting their own inventory to undercut their competition.

WTF gaming industry?

#127 Posted by n0ne (50 posts) -

This, is why I hate video games sometimes. Time to pull a Gran Turismo stunt and put in Ruf models :P

#128 Posted by PenguinDust (12667 posts) -

I know it's the "in" thing to crap on EA, but I get the feeling this is more about money than anything else.  Micro "if-you're-on-PSN-first-don't-call-us" Soft probably doesn't want to meet EA's asking price to use the license.  Everyone is playing hardball in this tight economy, so I can't fault EA for doing whatever they can to further their own invested interests. 

#129 Posted by Brodehouse (10254 posts) -

@PJ said:

@Brodehouse: The sim-racing genre is a bit different. The inclution of licenced cars is a huge part of the experience(since its simulating real-life racing and you can't do that with fake cars) and its not like the gameplay in Forza will suffer by them adding cars.

If licensed cars are a 'huge part of the experience' then it should matter to developers/publishers of sim racing games to acquire those licenses before their competitors do. I'm sure you can criticize EA for not sharing something they paid for, but the games industry isn't a nice little game of hacky-sack, it's a constant competition to provide the best product. EA doesn't have to share their advantages with Microsoft anymore than Turn 10 should share their code with Slightly Mad.

I can't imagine EA sending out a press release, "we really wanted to make a Warhammer 40k game, but THQ and Relic have exclusivity and won't let us, for shame."

#130 Posted by MikeGosot (3227 posts) -

I always knew EA stood for Evil Ambitions.

#131 Posted by VincentVendetta (274 posts) -

I remember when the car list came out for GT5. A lot bunch of people were like "No Porsches? Screw this! At least Forza 4 will have them!"... Man that sucks.
 
Although, yeah, I don't care about Porsches too.

#132 Posted by GreggD (4516 posts) -

@PrivateIronTFU said:

@GreggD: Uh...that's what it is...so yes, that's what I'm calling it. Here, let me help you. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hookah

I always thought it was just a multi-person bong. Well, whatever. Not like I need to know the specifics on weed and its tools.

#133 Posted by TheKing (844 posts) -

@Devil240Z said:

HAHAHA Suck it Failza!

How pathetically sad.

#134 Posted by TheSilentTruth (1168 posts) -

With this and Origin, the award for Best Video Game Publisher of 2011 goes too...! *drum roll*

#135 Posted by insanejedi (654 posts) -

That sucks. I mean It's fine that EA does whatever with their license but exclusivity licenses for what is basically badges in the game totally suck. Having Porsche's in Shift or any of the other NFS franchises doesn't lead me to buy one over the other, and in my opinion it's not even the right badge to take exclusivity either since Porsche's are not really dream supercars (maybe Carrera GT or 918 Spyder) but compared to Lambo or Ferrari, they don't have that 14 year old allure that you want in a racing game. I'm generally a devils advocate for what EA does in most cases, and I understand the whole "Well we bought this, so we should probably make better use of it rather than throwing it away" but it still just sucks. Maybe Turn 10 can release a bunch of cars with the same characteristics of 911's and Boxters but just in a different body shape and different badge, I'd be happy with that.

#136 Posted by mikey87144 (1809 posts) -

A couple of years ago McDonalds bought Boston Market and sort of sabotaged it because they believed that people chose Boston Market rotisserie chicken meals over their new chicken sandwiches. It made zero sense with that and this situation with EA and Forza makes zero sense. A car manufacturer being in a racing game is not the deciding factor when choosing a game. Yes would I have loved to see, for example Ferrari, in Hot Pursuit? Yes, but them not being in the game didn't influence my choice in any way. Porche being in Forza or not won't be the deciding factor in whether you get Shift and/or Run. It will be the merits of the game.

#137 Posted by Sharpshooter (894 posts) -

@Valru said:

EA is doing nothing with their Porsche license. Forza 3: 35 Porsche models NEED FOR SPEED - Shift 2: 10 Porsche models NEED FOR SPEED - The Run: 5 Porsche models Shift 3 is not coming since EA has cut of Slightly Mad Studio's funding and support for Shift2, they have also said they cannot release patches because EA doesn't have the time to Q/A them. Meanwhile, neither iRacing on PC, Forza 4 on the 360, or GT5 on the PS3 have Porsche cars.

If that's the case then wouldn't it be easier for Turn 10 to go directly to Porsche and point out that they do a better job of representing their brand than EA. I'm sure the guys at Porsche would be able to apply some pressure on EA to get them to play nice.

#138 Posted by Th3_James (2579 posts) -

WTF IS THIS SHIT????

#140 Posted by DJ_Lae (629 posts) -

Dear EA,

Fuck you.

Love DJ_Lae

#141 Posted by Lazyaza (2219 posts) -

Its like EA, Activision and Ubisoft are all competing for Worlds Biggest Assholes - The Achievement lately. 

#142 Posted by skrutop (3615 posts) -

@RebelOne said:

@skrutop: Turn10 already has RUF for Forza 4. That's how you can tell Porche isn't in a racing game.

Well that's better than nothing. The RUF's were fine in Gran Turismo.

#143 Posted by Devil240Z (3462 posts) -

@TheKing said:

@Devil240Z said:

HAHAHA Suck it Failza!

How pathetically sad.

Idiot.

#144 Posted by Aus_azn (2224 posts) -

Wooooooooooooooooooooooooow EA.
 
Although, more reasons to not buy Forza 4.
 
(I'm biased. Forza 3 left a bitter taste in my mouth after Forza 2's brilliance.)

#145 Posted by Stahlbrand (846 posts) -

I'm not a huge Forza player, but I've dabbled, and I think the absence of Porches would be noticeable to even a minor car-enthusiast.

#146 Posted by PrivateIronTFU (3874 posts) -
@GreggD said:

@PrivateIronTFU said:

@GreggD: Uh...that's what it is...so yes, that's what I'm calling it. Here, let me help you. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hookah

I always thought it was just a multi-person bong. Well, whatever. Not like I need to know the specifics on weed and its tools.

It's not really used for weed. More like tobacco. I suppose some people use it for that in the US, but predominantly, it's been around for centuries, and it's used for tobacco. 
#147 Posted by Branthog (5611 posts) -

Making fun videogames shouldn't involve this much convoluted political wheeling and dealing bullshit. Just make cool fucking games and quit with this licensing lock-up bullshit and posturing. For fuck's sake.

#148 Posted by Cybexx (1251 posts) -

No your Porsche is Unleashed!

This is the same reason Gran Turismo 3 didn't have real Porsches if I remember correctly. EA also licensed WWII jeeps which is why the Company of Heroes jeeps are slightly off modelled and have the internet famous 3A5UX5 (EA SUCKS) on their textures.

#149 Posted by notha (239 posts) -

@Rapid said:

Really, I guess we will have be seeing Porshe Knockoffs?

come drive the new Porch.

#150 Posted by DJJoeJoe (1339 posts) -

Remember when everybody seemed to really dislike EA for a long time? Then all of a sudden things went quiet for the hate towards them and Activision came along and basically became what we feared EA would become, and by comparision along with the general 'not doing super dumb things for a while' EA started looking alright again. Lately EA is doing nothing but looking dumb again though, huge spike in dumb really.

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