Playing on Easy

#1 Posted by ikusaba (26 posts) -

So is the general consensus that you must beat this game on easy first then move to normal? I just bought the game and am getting destroyed in normal. Yet it feels sort of dirty playing on easy.

#2 Posted by Zeik (2364 posts) -

Obviously you don't have to, but it would make beating it on normal easier, as it would be easier to unlock new stuff. Up to you whether you're willing to do it.

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#3 Posted by TruthTellah (8781 posts) -

@ikusaba: You don't have to, but it's probably advisable.

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#4 Posted by Gahzoo (361 posts) -

I did.

And I'm usually the guy that jumps in on the hardest difficulty that the game allows first (unless it's REALLY FUCKING hard meant as a second playthrough for sure)

#5 Posted by BeachThunder (11834 posts) -

You really should.

Think of it this way - 'Easy' is actually 'Hard' and 'Normal' is actually 'Ultra Fucking Hard'.

#6 Posted by gaminghooligan (1435 posts) -

Maybe I just suck, but I had to play it on easy the first time through to even stand a chance at the final boss.

#7 Posted by rentfn (1279 posts) -

I've played on easy for five hours and haven't beaten it yet. Easy gets really hard, I would hate to check out normal. Well maybe not crazy hard but you get in situations that spiral out of control so fast.

#8 Posted by BisonHero (6440 posts) -
@ikusaba You can use easy to get a bit of practice with the game's systems and maybe unlock a few ships, but yeah, once you've seen the intended difficulty of the game, easy does feel pretty dirty.
For what it's worth, I started playing the game during the beta on normal, and just toughed it out, and I still had fun with the game, and still play it over a hundred hours later.
#9 Posted by jdh5153 (1034 posts) -

I get destroyed on easy....Never got to the end...Don't really play much anymore...Maybe they'll patch it and make it easier one day.

#10 Posted by Ravenlight (8040 posts) -

Personally, I've played the majority of my games on Normal.

When I switched to Easy it felt like the game was beating me in the chest with a 2x4 instead of in the face with a hammer and that made me enjoy it less.

#11 Edited by chilibean_3 (1635 posts) -

I still can't beat it on easy. I can get to the boss regularly but I'm pretty sure I'm never going to beat it. Maybe I need to readjust my goals for runs and try to unlock some stuff instead of beat the game.

#12 Posted by BisonHero (6440 posts) -
@chilibean_3

I still can't beat it on easy. I can get to the boss regularly but I'm pretty sure I'm never going to beat it. Maybe I need to readjust my goals for runs and try to unlock some stuff instead of beat the game.

The different ships ultimately have the same systems, so by the time you reach the boss, many of your ships can have similar configurations of shields, engines, doors, etc., if you so choose. To beat the boss, you basically need 2 things: a teleporter and your own 2-man boarding party, and a way to punch through lvl 4 shields. The boarding party is to assault the isolated weapon rooms; barring that, you could use missiles or bombs to assault the weapons, but it will take a lot of time and missiles because the one crewman in each weapon room will keep repairing until you kill him. Aside from that, figure out what level of shields and engines you prefer; you don't NEED to max them, but having 6 energy in each when facing the boss is a good baseline. Having a defense drone really helps against missiles and boarding drones, but if you can't find one, cloaking helps to a certain extent as well.
#13 Edited by LordXavierBritish (6320 posts) -

The starting ships are complete garbage, unlock them all in Easy then enjoy Normal.

#14 Edited by mellotronrules (1188 posts) -

i wouldn't let the labels 'easy' and 'normal' get to you. it's all relative anyway- think super hexagon, that first level is labelled 'hard.'

#15 Posted by Synaptic (308 posts) -

I'd unlock a bunch of ships/layouts on easy and play them in normal once you've gotten options and understand the systems more.

#16 Posted by Ravenlight (8040 posts) -

@BisonHero said:

@chilibean_3

I still can't beat it on easy. I can get to the boss regularly but I'm pretty sure I'm never going to beat it. Maybe I need to readjust my goals for runs and try to unlock some stuff instead of beat the game.

The different ships ultimately have the same systems, so by the time you reach the boss, many of your ships can have similar configurations of shields, engines, doors, etc., if you so choose. To beat the boss, you basically need 2 things: a teleporter and your own 2-man boarding party, and a way to punch through lvl 4 shields. The boarding party is to assault the isolated weapon rooms; barring that, you could use missiles or bombs to assault the weapons, but it will take a lot of time and missiles because the one crewman in each weapon room will keep repairing until you kill him. Aside from that, figure out what level of shields and engines you prefer; you don't NEED to max them, but having 6 energy in each when facing the boss is a good baseline. Having a defense drone really helps against missiles and boarding drones, but if you can't find one, cloaking helps to a certain extent as well.

If you have a good stock of parts, a repair drone can make the boss pretty easy, too. But I'd say that the most useful upgrade is actually maxing out evasion. With a fully-levelled pilot and max evasion, even the missile/drone spam the boss does barely does any damage.

#17 Posted by Mr_Skeleton (5143 posts) -

It's hard and harder, don't let society put labels on your game's difficulty.

#18 Posted by BisonHero (6440 posts) -
@Ravenlight

@BisonHero said:

@chilibean_3

I still can't beat it on easy. I can get to the boss regularly but I'm pretty sure I'm never going to beat it. Maybe I need to readjust my goals for runs and try to unlock some stuff instead of beat the game.

The different ships ultimately have the same systems, so by the time you reach the boss, many of your ships can have similar configurations of shields, engines, doors, etc., if you so choose. To beat the boss, you basically need 2 things: a teleporter and your own 2-man boarding party, and a way to punch through lvl 4 shields. The boarding party is to assault the isolated weapon rooms; barring that, you could use missiles or bombs to assault the weapons, but it will take a lot of time and missiles because the one crewman in each weapon room will keep repairing until you kill him. Aside from that, figure out what level of shields and engines you prefer; you don't NEED to max them, but having 6 energy in each when facing the boss is a good baseline. Having a defense drone really helps against missiles and boarding drones, but if you can't find one, cloaking helps to a certain extent as well.

If you have a good stock of parts, a repair drone can make the boss pretty easy, too. But I'd say that the most useful upgrade is actually maxing out evasion. With a fully-levelled pilot and max evasion, even the missile/drone spam the boss does barely does any damage.

This is true. Still, the reason I say you CAN skip the last 2 levels is due to diminishing returns: they're quite expensive, and only give 3% and 4% each, compared to 5% earlier. The difference between 48% and 55% isn't that big, and sometimes the money is better spent if you're short on money that game. But Easy is more forgiving with money, so yeah, I guess you should usually be able to max it.
#19 Posted by StaticFalconar (4849 posts) -

Honestly I feel its part luck. Some ships are made with certain set ups in mind. Yet what the stores inventory is, and of course the random way events can unfold all make it so that you need a bit of luck to get things to align up to actually have a viable ship at the end. Playing it on easy actually makes it so you don't need the luck factor to win.

Or at least that's what I'm saying to myself whenever I play the game.

#20 Posted by Fredchuckdave (5353 posts) -

There's a fair amount of foreknowledge stuff (knowing what events screw you over etc.) going into it the first time but if you're good or interested in RTS's you'll probably have an easy enough time with easy. Normal is basically random luck + effectiveness of player agency and the ship you chose.

#21 Posted by Gamer_152 (14072 posts) -

Don't feel bad playing on easy just because it's called "Easy". The names of the modes are just the names of the modes, while the actual difficulties behind them are something else. Easy is difficult enough that it makes sense to play on that until you can do at least reasonably well at the game.

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#22 Edited by evilb0y (18 posts) -

@ikusaba: You don't have to, playing on easy give you more scrap & it's would be easier to unlock new ship, which make Normal easier. I found myself keep losing on easy, I only beated the game once on easy

#23 Posted by Confirm4Crit (141 posts) -
@BeachThunder

You really should.

Think of it this way - 'Easy' is actually 'Hard' and 'Normal' is actually 'Ultra Fucking Hard'.

I enjoy that analogy
#24 Edited by TrafalgarLaw (1116 posts) -

I got far more lucky on normal...just had a crew of 7 going just today...I'll stick to normal. I also played DMC3 on normal which was the japanese hard, I like a challenge.

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