Ideal developer(s) for the Song of Ice & Fire franchise

#1 Posted by wordfalling (193 posts) -

I'll preface this by saying I have not played Game of Thrones but I've recently been tinkering around with Crusader Kings 2 and have played plenty of Mount & Blade over the years and while neither are technically astounding, a combination of the underlying mechanics seem perfectly suited to the books.

Political intrigue, espionage, familial alliances as well as alliances of convenience (which quickly fall apart). Mercenaries, specialists and the whole beautiful, bloody mess of siege warfare that Mount & Blade encapsulates seems ideal. Add in the robust political and lineage based strategy of Crusader Kings and it could be a great game. Though sadly complicated and not particularly marketable.

I still think if Taleworlds and Paradox Interactive AB got together they could make a helluva game, even if it lacked the marketability of a licensed brand.

#2 Posted by xaLieNxGrEyx (2605 posts) -

If Atlus couldn't pull it off I'm at a loss for opinion on the subject

#3 Posted by Three0neFive (2287 posts) -

Given the focus on style over substance and laughably-bad sex scenes in lieu of actual character development, Bioware would be a pretty good fit.

#4 Edited by wordfalling (193 posts) -

@xaLieNxGrEyx: Ah but they just published it. I will play their game when the price inevitably drops. But my post was just idealistic, those two developers seem to be in the best position to realize a video game version of that world.

Edit: Position was not the best word to use, mindset or vision would have been more appropriate.

#5 Posted by Jay_Ray (1070 posts) -

I think it really depends what type of game you want. The guys at Creative Assembly would probably make the best strategy game but BioWare would make the best RPG.

#6 Posted by wordfalling (193 posts) -

@Jay_Ray: If BioWare did some of the writing then maybe but I'm a bit gunshy after DA2.

#7 Posted by WMWA (1160 posts) -

I just don't think it needs to be a game. The only way it could capture all the machinations is an adventure game, and fuck that. I'm perfectly happy with the books/show. I am concerned that George will die before he finishes the series though, given his track record

#8 Posted by wordfalling (193 posts) -

@wmaustin55: He does take his time writing the sequels but I can see where you are coming from. It doesn't need a game and it doesn't need a TV show but we've ended up with both. I like the show, despite the creative licences but if they are going to make a game it may as well be good.

#9 Edited by katanalauncher (215 posts) -

CD Projekt RED for a RPG.

#10 Posted by jacksmedulla (278 posts) -

Cd projekt red. The Witcher 2 is as close to a good game of thrones game as one can get.

#11 Posted by project343 (2812 posts) -

Bethesda. I want an open world Westeros! :X

#12 Posted by PixelPrinny (1030 posts) -

@xaLieNxGrEyx said:

If Atlus couldn't pull it off I'm at a loss for opinion on the subject

As someone said, they just published it, but do you think that they would have actually done a good job had they done it in-house? I mean... it'd hafta involve summoning demons from known mythologies and anime characters or they would be completely out of their wheelhouse. It'd be like Bethesda making a Shin Megami Tensei game, I just can't fathom the outcome, though it'd certainly be an interesting (and perhaps beautifully horrific) experiment.

#13 Posted by wordfalling (193 posts) -

@jacksmedulla: You know, if they could incorporate some of the open world elements of CK2 and M&B, CD Projekt Red could probably do a helluva job.

#14 Posted by Giantstalker (1529 posts) -

@katanalauncher said:

CD Projekt RED

@jacksmedulla said:

Cd projekt red.

I'm genuinely glad two people have already beaten me to this.

#15 Posted by Jeust (10473 posts) -

@Giantstalker said:

@katanalauncher said:

CD Projekt RED

@jacksmedulla said:

Cd projekt red.

I'm genuinely glad two people have already beaten me to this.

Yep, CD Projekt RED, and in second place Bioware.

#16 Posted by wordfalling (193 posts) -

CD Project RED and Bioware may get the story right but I feel the gameplay would fall short. I can't help but feel an odd combination of CK2, M&B and Civ 5 would be stellar. Then again, I'm old and turn based combined with real time for the action scratches an itch and Martin's world seems perfect for that combo.

#17 Posted by RollingZeppelin (1914 posts) -

@Jeust said:

@Giantstalker said:

@katanalauncher said:

CD Projekt RED

@jacksmedulla said:

Cd projekt red.

I'm genuinely glad two people have already beaten me to this.

Yep, CD Projekt RED, and in second place Bioware.

Yes, this is the only answer. Everyone else is wrong.

#18 Posted by wordfalling (193 posts) -

@RollingZeppelin: I would have to disagree in that CD Projekt RED and BioWare do story exceptionally well but gameplay is lacking, particularly in regards to BioWare.

#19 Posted by jacksmedulla (278 posts) -

@wordfalling: The Witcher 2 lacks good gameplay?

#20 Posted by RollingZeppelin (1914 posts) -

@wordfalling: Combat is not what makes GoT so awesome, also the combat in The Witcher 2 is great save a few boss fights, but that was mostly a set-up-to-the-combat problem. I don't want to see a game like a giant board game as in Crusader Kings, but the combat in Mount and Blade is pretty cool, but again the best part in GoT is not the combat. My problem with those two games is that they lack personality, but the Witcher 2 has personality in spades. I think CD Projekt would knock the game out of the park.

#21 Posted by Blackout62 (1328 posts) -

Obsidian. What? Everyone else said either CD Projekt Red or Bioware. Why have the steak and eggs separately when you can have both together.

#22 Posted by Animasta (14648 posts) -

why would you want to make CD projekt red do a super dark fantasy RPG? They've already done one, ones that are based on superior books even (yeah I went there)

#23 Posted by WMWA (1160 posts) -
@wordfalling I agree. The fact that the tv adaptation isnt offensive in the least to a huge novel fan speaks to the quality of it. I just don't see how they can make a good game of it that will satisfy series fans and game fans. Too much money to make us happy, and it's not a guaranteed hit when they delve into all the political machinations
#24 Posted by wordfalling (193 posts) -

@RollingZeppelin: Granted, the story is the main draw for a licensed game but particularly after last week's episode of Game of Thrones, the siege just made me want to play Mount & Blade and take over some dude's keep and either kill the duke or take him prisoner. And given the chance to mount Geoffry's head on a pike would be a crowning glory of gaming.

@jacksmedulla: Not at all, but it is a different sort from the sieges of M&B. I can't roll up on an infantry unit on horseback amid a crew and time the lance or sword swipe in TW2. I'm not disparaging CD Projekt RED in the least, The Witcher 1 and 2 are among my favorite games but they lack the multiple personalities of A Song of Ice and Fire.

#25 Posted by wordfalling (193 posts) -

@Blackout62: I didn't even think of Obsidian, which is unforgivable having recently replayed MotB. If they could write it but let someone else develop it that might be incredible.

@wmaustin55: I suppose that is the trouble, you can't please everyone and the game I would like would unlikely be commercially successful.

@Animasta: Sadly, I don't speak Polish and I've not been impressed by the translations.

#26 Posted by jakob187 (21642 posts) -

@jacksmedulla said:

Cd projekt red. The Witcher 2 is as close to a good game of thrones game as one can get.

This is the only correct answer in this thread.

#27 Posted by FancySoapsMan (5806 posts) -

Obsidian

#28 Posted by hermberger (121 posts) -

CD Projekt red sounds good.

Witcher 2 boobs meet Game of Thrones boobs.

Everybody wins.

#29 Posted by Shadow (4977 posts) -

I'd have to go with either Bethesda or the Bioware Dragon Age team. The series relies too much on dialogue to be just about anyone else. Maybe Telltale...

#30 Posted by stoodspoon (596 posts) -

@Jeust said:

@Giantstalker said:

@katanalauncher said:

CD Projekt RED

@jacksmedulla said:

Cd projekt red.

I'm genuinely glad two people have already beaten me to this.

Yep, CD Projekt RED, and in second place Bioware.

#31 Edited by ArbitraryWater (11471 posts) -

CD Projekt RED seems obvious. I would say Bioware, but it seems alarmingly clear to me in hindsight that Dragon Age was their rather clumsy attempt to take the raw grit from Martin's novels and try to mesh it with a more traditional fantasy setting. Let me be clear: Dragon Age Origins is easily one of my favorite games to come out in the last 5 years. But the setting is not the reason that is so.

I would also say Obsidian, but I imagine they'd make an awesome game and then be forced by the publisher to release it a good 6 months before it was done, ending with them having to lay off a bunch of their employees despite the game selling quite well. Oh well. At least they have managed to survive, unlike Troika.

So, in conclusion, George R.R. Martin should finish his books before he dies of old age or a heart attack, and then when they turn out to be as bad as the last two books have been, we can all breathe a collective sigh of disappointment and never talk about them again.

#32 Posted by MariachiMacabre (7048 posts) -

CD Projekt RED is the only answer.

#33 Posted by Aronman789 (2676 posts) -

Only CD Projekt RED would get the maturity factor right in a GoT RPG, Bioware is too focused on laughably bad romance.

#34 Edited by 5socks5 (188 posts) -

@wordfalling: Crusader Kings 2 has a GOT mod.

Edit: So does Mount And Blade I think.

#35 Posted by BionicRadd (617 posts) -

If they made a game set in Westoros, I might be interested. However, I do not want to play through the events of the series in a video game. It's damn tired. Give me a new story with either a new or underused character from the series and I'll listen. Knowing how most licensed properties go, though, I am putting my vote in the ring for wishing there were no GoT games.

#36 Posted by RedRoach (1176 posts) -

CD Projekt Red. Done.

#37 Posted by TheHT (10876 posts) -

CD Projekt Red or BioWare are obvious choices.

BioWare would have to seriously buck up though.

#38 Posted by Rapid (1345 posts) -

@RollingZeppelin said:

@Jeust said:

@Giantstalker said:

@katanalauncher said:

CD Projekt RED

@jacksmedulla said:

Cd projekt red.

I'm genuinely glad two people have already beaten me to this.

Yep, CD Projekt RED, and in second place Bioware.

Yes, this is the only answer. Everyone else is wrong.

#39 Edited by SingingMenstrual (327 posts) -

@rapid said:

@RollingZeppelin said:

@Jeust said:

@Giantstalker said:

@katanalauncher said:

CD Projekt RED

@jacksmedulla said:

Cd projekt red.

I'm genuinely glad two people have already beaten me to this.

Yep, CD Projekt RED

Yes, this is the only answer. Everyone else is wrong.

#40 Posted by GERALTITUDE (2911 posts) -

It would have to be BioWare, Rockstar, Bethesda, CD Project RED or some other similarly massive studio with the ability to build mega giant ass worlds.

Tonally, CDPR is the only one within spitting distance.

#41 Edited by Shadow (4977 posts) -
#42 Posted by Shortbreadtom (687 posts) -

CDPR is the only company that could pull off the kind of mature, dark fantasy the source material requires. And given how BioWare has kind of dropped the ball recently (DA2, ME3), they're also one of the best at making RPGs with solid stories and moral choices

#43 Edited by DonutFever (3549 posts) -

Telltale (they already are!), CD Projekt RED, or Creative Assembly.

#44 Posted by TheHT (10876 posts) -

CD Projekt RED is really the only dev I can see handling it. Sorry TellTale.

No fuckin way to Bethesda or even BioWare, much as I might like some of their work. I feel like those devs wouldn't be able to pull it off without seeming like they're trying too hard, like they're just crossing off some grim checklist.

I mean, I guess TellTale might be able to get it done right too. Been meaning to check out The Wolf Among Us.

#45 Posted by Bollard (5248 posts) -

@wordfalling: Psst, this is a year old thread, but there's totally a GOT mod for CKII. Although I have no idea if it's of any quality.

#46 Edited by Lunnington (152 posts) -

If Bethesda dropped the Elder Scrolls series and adopted the Game of Thrones universe I would be 100% okay with that. Say what you will about their mechanics and goofy glitches and such, they're still great at making a seemingly huge open world game with a sense of exploration and dynamic interaction. That's exactly what I would want from a Game of Thrones game. I don't want The Wall to be a setpiece in the backdrop of a scene, I want it to be an actual thing that I can choose to visit and explore.

EDIT: Oh wow this thread is old. Oh well, it's timely once again.

#47 Edited by Hunter5024 (5538 posts) -

Intelligent Systems.

#48 Edited by crithon (3075 posts) -

Intelligent Systems

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