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    Microsoft's PC branch of its Live service. Lends the same functionality as Xbox Live Gold to Games For Windows games including cross-platform compatibility for achievements, friends & messages, downloadable content, and in some cases, multiplayer.

    Digital Game Distribution Coming To Games For Windows Live

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    jim_dandy

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    #51  Edited By jim_dandy

    GFWL or a hot stick in my eye?

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    dekoboko

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    #52  Edited By dekoboko

    Sorry, gfwl I have very little faith in you. I wish you the best of luck but, frankly I'm pulling for  Steam. 

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    StingingVelvet

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    #53  Edited By StingingVelvet

    What's that MS?  You don't want me to play your newer games on PC, you don't offer a very PC friendly interface, you hide my save files and charge me for DLC in ridiculous points and you are 5+ years late to the party, but you want ME to choose YOU over Steam? 
     
    Fuck off.  Seriously.
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    RedFive

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    #54  Edited By RedFive

    Another avenue for digital distribution is great. Competition, woo hoo! Also, ACHIEVEMENTS

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    Sinkwater

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    #55  Edited By Sinkwater
    @Tampolini said:
    " Seems like a relatively low risk gamble for Microsoft. Aside from a bit of bandwidth I don't suppose this attempt to dabble in the digital download market will cost them anything. You have to wonder why they've not tried it sooner though??? "
    They still have to pay people to do the work.  Those are wages that could be spent elsewhere.
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    Kohe321

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    #56  Edited By Kohe321

    Steam is addicting, thats true.

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    #57  Edited By LiquidS

    Competition is good for us as Steam no doublt will start doing an even better job to keep us spending money with them. 
    Also Microsoft not just buying out steam, then destroying it is also a big plus.

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    #58  Edited By Trnck
    @dbz1995 said:
    " Steam is better because:  A) I have an account on it B) Steam is a better name C) GWFL IS FOR N00BZ D) Steam has awesome adverts flashing across your screen E) RIIIIIDGE RAACER "
    yep, GWFL IZ FER N00bZ, how about GFWL then?
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    #59  Edited By Claude

    Hey, good luck with that. Watch what your competitor does and then do it better.

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    #60  Edited By niall077

    why I use steam is because Half Life 2 was on there. 
      
    Will MS be releaeing any PC games that will make my give a damn about this servise because I think every game they announced for this is already on steam. 
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    Buccura

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    #61  Edited By Buccura

    Seriously, a lot of GFWs titles are on Steam already so, why bother. Unless you can't get LIVE Achievements in the steam versions of GFWL games. Can you?

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    #62  Edited By sjschmidt93

    Steam >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>....................>>>>>>.....>>>>.......... GFWL 
     
    But really, GFWL doesn't have a shot. You can't do something like this and expect it to work. You're going up against a well established competitor that has millions of users, a thousand+ games and about 6 or 7 years under it's belt. It's just not doable.  
     
    It'd be like the PS4 coming out in 2010 and then the 720 decides to hit in 2016 (with roughly the same technical specs as the PS4), it wouldn't do anything.

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    YuheJi

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    #63  Edited By YuheJi
    @Buccura: Yes, you can get Achievement Points off of GFWL games bought on Steam.  Dawn of War II requires Steam, and gives me points.
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    #64  Edited By BrittonPeele

    I admit it: This makes me glad I didn't buy Osmos when it was on sale on Steam last week. GFWL Achievements > Steam Achievements, even if Steam is a better PC service. Gotta add to that Gamerscore!

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    Suicidal_SNiper

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    #65  Edited By Suicidal_SNiper
    @Alphazero said:
    " Those Microsoft guys... they're gonna make it big one of these days. "
    Lol, that one gave me a good laugh. 
     
    Good day sir!
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    #66  Edited By UnrulyRuffian
    @Sinkwater said:
    " @Tampolini said:
    " Seems like a relatively low risk gamble for Microsoft. Aside from a bit of bandwidth I don't suppose this attempt to dabble in the digital download market will cost them anything. You have to wonder why they've not tried it sooner though??? "
    They still have to pay people to do the work.  Those are wages that could be spent elsewhere. "
     
    That's true - it's not like we're talking pocket change, but in the grand scheme of the Microsoft empire I imagine it's relatively little.
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    #67  Edited By Everlovin

    This service will fail.  As a primarily PC gamer I can tell you that the GFWL brand is like nails over a chalkboard for anyone that's been following the charade for the last couple years.   GFWL  promised to bring PC gaming back as a serious platform bla bla bla and Microsoft dumped it (and us) like yesterday's garbade.  Microsoft finally wants to woo the PC gamers now?  Pfft.  Thanks a ton for remembering us when Fable and Halo 3 came out... oh wait.  You want to buy PC games from a company that doesn't even release its own games on PC AND develops the platform OS?  No thanks, its steam for me.

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    #68  Edited By HitmanAgent47

    I hate games for windows live, now they want to sell games? Lol, not buying it unless it's in stores or on steam.

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    Steam achievements don't add to your gamerscore, easy decision.

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    #70  Edited By Will_Lucky

    GTA: Lost and Damned achievements on PC just made a whole lot of sense ;).

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    #71  Edited By WinterSnowblind
    @Everlovin said:
    " This service will fail.  As a primarily PC gamer I can tell you that the GFWL brand is like nails over a chalkboard for anyone that's been following the charade for the last couple years.   GFWL  promised to bring PC gaming back as a serious platform bla bla bla and Microsoft dumped it (and us) like yesterday's garbade.  Microsoft finally wants to woo the PC gamers now?  Pfft.  Thanks a ton for remembering us when Fable and Halo 3 came out... oh wait.  You want to buy PC games from a company that doesn't even release its own games on PC AND develops the platform OS?  No thanks, its steam for me. "
    I can completely understand why they don't release their games on Windows anymore.
     
    Although you now use this as a complaint, you're the same people who used it as a reason not buy an Xbox "all 360 games come to PC anyway" and then heavily pirated them, leading to poor PC sales and diminished 360 ones.  Personally, I think it's good that Microsoft are continuing to support GFWL, and I think it could turn into a really great system, if developed in the right way.  But it shouldn't do it at the cost of the 360.
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    #72  Edited By Vision

    I have my friends on steam and so on i'll just stick to that for now. :)

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    #73  Edited By NoXious

    Too little, too late.

    Steam has awesome deals, my money is worth more then my gamerscore which adds nothing to real-life accomplishments.
    Steam has a great community, my friends all use Steam in some way or shape and it's a great way to join in on games or talk to them while I'm playing a different game.
    Steam has served me well for over 6 years, GFWL hasn't even begun WORKING well - yet alone serving me well.

    The only good thing about this, is that it adds a new competitor on the market. This means Steam might have to put out more, to stay on top of their game. We'll see though, time will tell.

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    #74  Edited By Everlovin
    @WinterSnowblind said:  
    "I can completely understand why they don't release their games on Windows anymore.  Although you now use this as a complaint, you're the same people who used it as a reason not buy an Xbox "all 360 games come to PC anyway" and then heavily pirated them, leading to poor PC sales and diminished 360 ones.  Personally, I think it's good that Microsoft are continuing to support GFWL, and I think it could turn into a really great system, if developed in the right way.  But it shouldn't do it at the cost of the 360. "

    Hi, I buy all my PC games.  I don't but the piracy arguement.  You mean to tell me that the company that designs the OS my games run on, and is creating a service which requires a user to be online cant find a way to make piracy at least as hard as on the 360.  Minus the Used game market and game rentals...  Which im sure you convienently forget is not an issue with console games.  If a GFW service is 100% online, then there should be a way to make it a game require an online server side dependancy or checks.  You never hear people pirating WoW.  They can buddy this with a month or so lead for the 360 version to help fuel their console war .  Hell, I'd even go for being able to plug my mouse and keyboard or even my whole PC into a 360 and play through it.   Sorry, I dont buy your BS.
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    #75  Edited By cspiffo

    It's about time but it's also probably too little, too late.

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    #76  Edited By nanikore

    GFWL ain't got shit on Steam.

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    Give me... 
     
    Halo 3 
    Gears 2 
    Fable 2 
    GTA 4 DLC 
     
    Then I'll want to use it.

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    #78  Edited By Curufinwe
    @YuheJi said:

    " @Buccura: Yes, you can get Achievement Points off of GFWL games bought on Steam.  Dawn of War II requires Steam, and gives me points. "

    I bought RE 5 off Steam, another GFWL game, and now I have 600-something MS nerd points from it.
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    #79  Edited By MrKlorox

    I wondered how long it would take. So if I enter my GFWL key, I can download my game?
     
    If so, ozcdkeys and cdkeysdirect will finally get more of my business.
     
    Also from an achievement perspective, I'd take GFWL ones anyday.

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    #80  Edited By KuribosShoe
    @YuheJi:  but one assumes the games being offered on demand will have exclusive live achievements.  like World Of Goo, for example. 
     
    but really, it's not like it has to be a one or the other thing, I already have GFWL because of GTA IV, and I have a lot of games on steam too.  I can go to steam for deals, and when the price is the same, I can opt for gamerscore, which I care much more about than boring old steam achievements.  But maybe that's because I'm primarily a console gamer.
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    #81  Edited By Winternet

    It sure is devious

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    #82  Edited By Jim_uk

    Great until Microcock get fed up with it and turn off the DRM servers, it wouldn't be the first time. Anyone who buys off this needs their head examined.

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