GFWL or a hot stick in my eye?
Games for Windows - Live
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Microsoft's PC branch of its Live service. Lends the same functionality as Xbox Live Gold to Games For Windows games including cross-platform compatibility for achievements, friends & messages, downloadable content, and in some cases, multiplayer.
Digital Game Distribution Coming To Games For Windows Live
What's that MS? You don't want me to play your newer games on PC, you don't offer a very PC friendly interface, you hide my save files and charge me for DLC in ridiculous points and you are 5+ years late to the party, but you want ME to choose YOU over Steam?
Fuck off. Seriously.
" Seems like a relatively low risk gamble for Microsoft. Aside from a bit of bandwidth I don't suppose this attempt to dabble in the digital download market will cost them anything. You have to wonder why they've not tried it sooner though??? "They still have to pay people to do the work. Those are wages that could be spent elsewhere.
Steam >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>....................>>>>>>.....>>>>.......... GFWL
But really, GFWL doesn't have a shot. You can't do something like this and expect it to work. You're going up against a well established competitor that has millions of users, a thousand+ games and about 6 or 7 years under it's belt. It's just not doable.
It'd be like the PS4 coming out in 2010 and then the 720 decides to hit in 2016 (with roughly the same technical specs as the PS4), it wouldn't do anything.
I admit it: This makes me glad I didn't buy Osmos when it was on sale on Steam last week. GFWL Achievements > Steam Achievements, even if Steam is a better PC service. Gotta add to that Gamerscore!
" Those Microsoft guys... they're gonna make it big one of these days. "Lol, that one gave me a good laugh.
Good day sir!
" @Tampolini said:" Seems like a relatively low risk gamble for Microsoft. Aside from a bit of bandwidth I don't suppose this attempt to dabble in the digital download market will cost them anything. You have to wonder why they've not tried it sooner though??? "They still have to pay people to do the work. Those are wages that could be spent elsewhere. "
That's true - it's not like we're talking pocket change, but in the grand scheme of the Microsoft empire I imagine it's relatively little.
This service will fail. As a primarily PC gamer I can tell you that the GFWL brand is like nails over a chalkboard for anyone that's been following the charade for the last couple years. GFWL promised to bring PC gaming back as a serious platform bla bla bla and Microsoft dumped it (and us) like yesterday's garbade. Microsoft finally wants to woo the PC gamers now? Pfft. Thanks a ton for remembering us when Fable and Halo 3 came out... oh wait. You want to buy PC games from a company that doesn't even release its own games on PC AND develops the platform OS? No thanks, its steam for me.
I hate games for windows live, now they want to sell games? Lol, not buying it unless it's in stores or on steam.
" This service will fail. As a primarily PC gamer I can tell you that the GFWL brand is like nails over a chalkboard for anyone that's been following the charade for the last couple years. GFWL promised to bring PC gaming back as a serious platform bla bla bla and Microsoft dumped it (and us) like yesterday's garbade. Microsoft finally wants to woo the PC gamers now? Pfft. Thanks a ton for remembering us when Fable and Halo 3 came out... oh wait. You want to buy PC games from a company that doesn't even release its own games on PC AND develops the platform OS? No thanks, its steam for me. "I can completely understand why they don't release their games on Windows anymore.
Although you now use this as a complaint, you're the same people who used it as a reason not buy an Xbox "all 360 games come to PC anyway" and then heavily pirated them, leading to poor PC sales and diminished 360 ones. Personally, I think it's good that Microsoft are continuing to support GFWL, and I think it could turn into a really great system, if developed in the right way. But it shouldn't do it at the cost of the 360.
Too little, too late.
Steam has awesome deals, my money is worth more then my gamerscore which adds nothing to real-life accomplishments.
Steam has a great community, my friends all use Steam in some way or shape and it's a great way to join in on games or talk to them while I'm playing a different game.
Steam has served me well for over 6 years, GFWL hasn't even begun WORKING well - yet alone serving me well.
The only good thing about this, is that it adds a new competitor on the market. This means Steam might have to put out more, to stay on top of their game. We'll see though, time will tell.
"I can completely understand why they don't release their games on Windows anymore. Although you now use this as a complaint, you're the same people who used it as a reason not buy an Xbox "all 360 games come to PC anyway" and then heavily pirated them, leading to poor PC sales and diminished 360 ones. Personally, I think it's good that Microsoft are continuing to support GFWL, and I think it could turn into a really great system, if developed in the right way. But it shouldn't do it at the cost of the 360. "
Hi, I buy all my PC games. I don't but the piracy arguement. You mean to tell me that the company that designs the OS my games run on, and is creating a service which requires a user to be online cant find a way to make piracy at least as hard as on the 360. Minus the Used game market and game rentals... Which im sure you convienently forget is not an issue with console games. If a GFW service is 100% online, then there should be a way to make it a game require an online server side dependancy or checks. You never hear people pirating WoW. They can buddy this with a month or so lead for the 360 version to help fuel their console war . Hell, I'd even go for being able to plug my mouse and keyboard or even my whole PC into a 360 and play through it. Sorry, I dont buy your BS.
but really, it's not like it has to be a one or the other thing, I already have GFWL because of GTA IV, and I have a lot of games on steam too. I can go to steam for deals, and when the price is the same, I can opt for gamerscore, which I care much more about than boring old steam achievements. But maybe that's because I'm primarily a console gamer.
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