I don't get it the game seems rather nicely balanced out to me yet whenever i enter a match people are whining non stop about chainsaw this, smoke grenade that when i really dont see any problem

is it a bit like the assault rifle in halo 3 where people like to moan about it because...... they got killed by it?

Oh and i'd just like to add why isn't anybody using the hammerburst? its so very powerful and it allows you to pull of headshots making it great for execution gametypes

If I can get into a game, then I have no issues. It's the waiting for 10 minutes to get into a damn match that's the problem. (Albeit this is based on right after the game was released and I rented the game.

As far as I'm concerned, the smoke grenade is a gimmick in practice but a really interesting concept. Chainsaw has a small gravitational pull, it seems, and is iffy as to when you shoot it if it will go down.The real problem are all the glitches. Yesterday I got killed by an invisible enemy. Yesterday I saw five different people shield glitching. That's the shit we should complain about first and foremost.

Also, if you are not high enough rank, you won't see the Hammerburst. Only smart people use it, that's why I don't use it.

Matchmaking is my issue.

I listened to an entire Bombcast and still wasn't in a match

I have had absolutely no trouble finding a match, literally takes less than 2 minutes which is fine. (and for anyone curious as to how much I have done so far I am 1100/1999 rounds for the achievement, mostly do wingman). Playing online seems to be fine. My biggest issue is the chainsaw not lowering when I shoot people.

are you denying the bugs and gameplay issues?

"are you denying the bugs and gameplay issues?"

Well I have no problem with smoke grenades and the tagging of walls with different types of grenades.  However, they need to make the process (if you are hit by a smoke grenade) of getting up less buggy.  Sometimes you are inexplicably left on the ground for a very long time while other times you pop right up after a fair amount of time.  There is also the matter of shield glitching, meleeing through walls, a chainsaw that vacuums (only really bothersome if the match you are in is laggy), and people who can hit a lag switch and kill everyone during said frozen time.  Other then that, Gears 2 is A okay... and hella fun for that matter ;p

"Oh and i'd just like to add why isn't anybody using the hammerburst? its so very powerful and it allows you to pull of headshots making it great for execution gametypes"

Try playing King of Hill. Throw smoke... rush... capture. Throw smoke... rush... capture. The smokes grenade are good in gametypes where you don't re spawn but ones where you do they are absolutely ridiculous.

"Try playing King of Hill. Throw smoke... rush... capture. Throw smoke... rush... capture. The smokes grenade are good in gametypes where you don't re spawn but ones where you do they are absolutely ridiculous."

"Hexpane said:

"are you denying the bugs and gameplay issues?"

yeh pretty much
or at least denying the gameplay issues because.. there are none
 
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A brief status report on the next Gears2 title update

How long have you been playing the game? I know when I started playing I was definitely looking at it through rose-tinted glasses due to my (wonderful) experience with Gears 1. After a while, though, the edges began to fray until well... The game seemed to be nothing but frayed edges.

and Cliffy B too

Yeah, occasionally I have trouble finding a match.

i said there are no gameplay issues. All the things you listed were glitches which i said were true, but gameplay stuff... there really isn't any lol

"i said there are no gameplay issues. All the things you listed were glitches which i said were true, but gameplay stuff... there really isn't any lol"

I haven't played since December so I'm not sure if the problems have been fixed.  As someone said before, actually playing a match online is great the long wait in between is what's keeping me from going back.  I don't have any problems with the campaign.

I don't think I've played a competitive gears 2 online match yet that I would describe as "fun".

My main complaint is with the shotgun. That stupid fucking thing couldn't hit the broadside of a sperm whale. In order to kill some one with it you quite literally have to have the damn barrel rammed up a dudes ass. If I am a foot and a half away from you, and I blast you in the face with a shotgun, your head is supposed to disappear.  The blind firing is junk also. Yes I know, It's supposed to be inaccurate because you are blindly firing your weapon, but if a dude is standing right in front of me and I blind fire whatever weapon I have, the bullets should at least hit him. Hell, not even all the bullets, just one would please me. There have been plenty of times where I have shot off the lancer or the shotgun blindly and one of those flags with the word "BANG" written on it might as well have popped out the barrel. Sure I could learn how to exploit the glitches and win that way, but that's not what I paid for. I've mostly gone back to Call of Duty 4 and Left 4 Dead since they both follow the golden shooter rule of "things die when struck by high velocity projectiles" quite well.
 
The Singleplayer on the other hand. A+++++++

"I don't think I've played a competitive gears 2 online match yet that I would describe as "fun".

My main complaint is with the shotgun. That stupid fucking thing couldn't hit the broadside of a sperm whale. In order to kill some one with it you quite literally have to have the damn barrel rammed up a dudes ass. If I am a foot and a half away from you, and I blast you in the face with a shotgun, your head is supposed to disappear.  The blind firing is junk also. Yes I know, It's supposed to be inaccurate because you are blindly firing your weapon, but if a dude is standing right in front of me and I blind fire whatever weapon I have, the bullets should at least hit him. Hell, not even all the bullets, just one would please me. There have been plenty of times where I have shot off the lancer or the shotgun blindly and one of those flags with the word "BANG" written on it might as well have popped out the barrel. Sure I could learn how to exploit the glitches and win that way, but that's not what I paid for. I've mostly gone back to Call of Duty 4 and Left 4 Dead since they both follow the golden shooter rule of "things die when struck by high velocity projectiles" quite well.
 
The Singleplayer on the other hand. A+++++++"

Haha, because I totally detailed my method of play in the above post.  All I said was that the shotgun doesn't work and that there are latency and host issues that  make bullets just not hit anything.

I never once said that I use the roadie/shotty method. I do take cover since it's, I dunno, the main mechanic of the whole damn videogame.  Anywhoo, those are both moot points. My complaints appy to any and all times that I have pointed a gun at somenes face, pressed on the right trigger and due to some crazy, pulp fiction, devine intervention shit , they manage to not get hit by a single bullet before they proceed to ice skate across the map, sawing me in half. I've also experienced this issue from the other end of the spectrum. There have been plenty of times where I have been NAILED by various projectiles and should have died (shotgun blast from point blank range, dead on rocket launcher hit from medium distance ect). Those are mechanical issues, not issues of skill.

This isn't really about being good at a game. This isn't even about getting a kill.  This is about a game being unable to adhere to the simple equation of "pointing gun at something + pulling the trigger = bullets hiting something" wether they die or not.

And yeah, adapting to alot of these technical issues would make the game more fun, but as I've said before, that is not the reason I bought the game.

and if you're smart and avoid cqb you will never again experience that. If you do you're just not taking into account that lancer/hammerburst/sniper/anything needs leading

just read this...Dauragon is completely right. The cover/lancer/hammerburst method blows my fuckin cock online so stfu with that (It's fine and dandy in single player). The shotgun is broken, the chainsaw has a hidden vacuum attached (another retarted weapon for multiplayer),the smoke grenade is basically death in a bottle, the hammerburst and lancer have wayyyy too much stopping power, shot lag is intolerable....What the fuck am I paying 4 bucks a month for? Random hosting is a joke, add dedicated servers and I wouldn't have any problems with the game. 8 guys shooting each other with hammerbursts across the map while hiding behind cover for 2 minutes is not my idea of fun. Gears MP is all about getting up close and personal otherwise its just a generic TPS and a bad one at that. Don't post "don't play it if you don't like it" because I love Gears of War and the ideas involved, I just wish  they were implementedbetter  in the online component.

"i said there are no gameplay issues. All the things you listed were glitches which i said were true, but gameplay stuff... there really isn't any lol"

I really havnt seen any glitching sense the last update. I am still loving the hell outa this game too. great game.

The issues aren't when playing the game, the issues are the still on-going matchmaking problems. What has it been -- three patches and no solution?