Anyone who has played Gears seriously for any amount of time knows that the Host advantage situation is dire.  While this is also an issue in almost every other competitive shooter on live, because of the CQC gameplay that Gears represents, it is much more of a problem. 
 
If anyone can think of a better solution than dedicated servers, please let your ideas be known.  Otherwise, just agree and move on. 
 
For the record, no one will convince me that DS'es aren't the best solution possible based off of current technology architecture.

This is me agreeing and moving on. Is there really any other option to argue? Enlighten me.

The official Gears 3 presentation has just finished. Cliffy B remained cautious with the revelations, at least until 2010 E3 & X11, but nevertheless he said Epic Games has every intention of pushing the Xbox 360 to its technical limits. He also said the multiplayer should be fixed relative to the second game. Examples include the time to find a match online, with some bugs, and connections between the U.S.and Europe.    

True, other then dedicated servers... What other option is there?

  @Linkyshinks said:
"He also said the multiplayer should be fixed relative to the second game. Examples include the time to find a match online, with some bugs, and connections between the U.S.and Europe.     "  
 
 
 As of now, that is basically a confirmation that we will indeed be playing yet another Gears game... with FUCKING HOST BULLSHIT. 

The Host advantage isn't a Gears thing. It's an Unreal engine thing. Every game ever to use Unreal Technology has had this. Even with Dedicated Servers, whoever is hosting that dedicated server can still join from the LAN server browser and tear dudes apart. 
Or even worse, 5 people over a LAN on a dedicated server tearing everyone apart. At least on XBL it's only ONE person with host advantage rather than a whole crew. I doubt they'll ever fix this ever.

Actually the game isn't going to have any multiplayer whatsoever. 
 
And its going to be entirely controlled with natal. 
 
Confirmed.

Just get me a good connection. Many times I can kill host because there is no lag. They should put in host migration like Halo and COD to cut back on shitty hosts and people who stand-by.

I thought one of the things we got in our XBL subscriptions was dedicated servers for MP games......

i kept gears 2 for about 3 weeks. long enough for me to beat the game, and get fed up with the match making taking 15-20 minutes.  

" i kept gears 2 for about 3 weeks. long enough for me to beat the game, and get fed up with the match making taking 15-20 minutes.   "

" I thought one of the things we got in our XBL subscriptions was dedicated servers for MP games...... "

" @TwoOneFive said:

" i kept gears 2 for about 3 weeks. long enough for me to beat the game, and get fed up with the match making taking 15-20 minutes.   "

Same here. "

half the fun of gears is the awful lag

I will be surprised if they can fix host advantage without having dedicated servers.

Gears 1 multiplayer wasn't too much better, but as I remember it, it was just fun. Private matches with friends in the first game were loads of fun, despite there being a host advantage. The second game for one reason or another was simply frustrating and provided little enjoyment. I just hope they put lots of time and new features into horde because that mode is fantastic and that's the only multiplayer component of GOW2 that really works.

Single player and Horde were basically the calling cards of Gears 2, I never bothered with Gears 2 Multi and I didn't bother with Gears 1 multi, I just want to see the story and kill waves of dudes in horde...

I will be very happy if they allow you to play with the same group for more than one game. The Halo style match making thing is not for me. 

It's something that comes with online games. For now, we need to live with it.