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    Are Goomba's evil?

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    #1  Edited By Hizang


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    #2  Edited By Hizang

    Are Goomba's evil?

    Just think about being a Goomba is todays age, for centuries Mario has killed Goomba after Goomba, ending generations of Goomba's without really stopping to care about the lives he has just taken. Mario just goes about on his day, now if I was a Goomba wouldn't you see Mario as being evil. He goes around just killing so many Goomba's to save the princess, where as the Goomba's fight him because he has killed so many Goomba's.

    I will ask again, are Goomba's evil?

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    #3  Edited By Jimbo

    Only the rich ones.

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    #5  Edited By ImmortalSaiyan

    I expect the next Mario game to star a goomba and explore this issue.

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    #6  Edited By stise

    @Fattony12000 said:

    ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

    WHY ARE YOU USING A POSSESSIVE APOSTROPHE!?

    ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

    Who give's a shit

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    #7  Edited By Hizang

    @ImmortalSaiyan: If you think about it, Goomba's are just fighting for what they think is right, as is Mario. Mario VS Goomba is just a way of explaining a war to children, both sides think what they are doing is right when really neither side is right.

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    C. They just do what they're told

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    #9  Edited By Kerned

    I think that it's made pretty clear in Bowser's Inside Story that they are basically hapless buffoons who are only following orders.

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    #10  Edited By ShadowConqueror

    I don't believe in classifying things as good or evil, so neither.

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    #11  Edited By Nottle

    They are just chestnuts dude.

    Chestnuts you slaughter.

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    #12  Edited By jjnen

    It's just a job for them. They haven't picked a side, they just care about bringing food to the table. Lack of picking a side makes them kinda evil I guess?

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    #13  Edited By evanbower

    @Kerned said:

    I think that it's made pretty clear in Bowser's Inside Story that they are basically hapless buffoons who are only following orders.

    Also in Hannah Arendt's A Report on the Banality of Evil.

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    #14  Edited By Hunter5024

    Evil is like... relative and stuff.

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    #15  Edited By Hizang

    If Goomba's follow Bowsers orders without thinking, then they are part of a large problem and because so become evil. Because anybody that is willing to kill somebody without even thinking about it is evil.

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    #16  Edited By Animasta

    @Hizang said:

    If Goomba's follow Bowsers orders without thinking, then they are part of a large problem and because so become evil. Because anybody that is willing to kill somebody without even thinking about it is evil.

    well honestly, is it really their fault that mario is so weak that if not taking mushrooms, they can kill him just by running into him?

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    #17  Edited By Hunter5024

    @Hizang said:

    If Goomba's follow Bowsers orders without thinking, then they are part of a large problem and because so become evil. Because anybody that is willing to kill somebody without even thinking about it is evil.

    The question is, do they even have the capacity to perceive that they are killing?

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    #18  Edited By Animasta

    and a goomba's job is to walk. It is not to kill Mario, that is what the other enemies are for.

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    #19  Edited By Hizang

    @Animasta said:

    and a goomba's job is to walk. It is not to kill Mario, that is what the other enemies are for.

    In Super Mario 64 and Super Mario Galaxy they will run at Mario, how do you counter act this!

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    #20  Edited By Animasta

    @Hizang said:

    @Animasta said:

    and a goomba's job is to walk. It is not to kill Mario, that is what the other enemies are for.

    In Super Mario 64 and Super Mario Galaxy they will run at Mario, how do you counter act this!

    they were confused by the jump to 3d.

    tehy are not actually running AT mario, they are trying to get on his virtual plane.

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    #21  Edited By Nottle

    @Hunter5024 said:

    @Hizang said:

    If Goomba's follow Bowsers orders without thinking, then they are part of a large problem and because so become evil. Because anybody that is willing to kill somebody without even thinking about it is evil.

    The question is, do they even have the capacity to perceive that they are killing?

    The Paper Mario games have pretty intelligent Goombas, the one from The Thousand Year Door was pretty smart because she was the one that identified enemies.

    Also one in Super Mario RPG was smart enough to run a shop, have kids, and get away from Bowsers gang. As a matter of fact Bowser's entire army (which was like 5 goombas, 5 koopas, and 5 magikoopas) disbanded and found work elsewhere.

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    #22  Edited By Hizang

    @Animasta said:

    @Hizang said:

    @Animasta said:

    and a goomba's job is to walk. It is not to kill Mario, that is what the other enemies are for.

    In Super Mario 64 and Super Mario Galaxy they will run at Mario, how do you counter act this!

    they were confused by the jump to 3d.

    tehy are not actually running AT mario, they are trying to get on his virtual plane.

    In Paper Mario Sticker Star they will run at Mario, the first boss is against a whole army of Goombas.

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    #23  Edited By Hunter5024

    @Nottle said:

    @Hunter5024 said:

    @Hizang said:

    If Goomba's follow Bowsers orders without thinking, then they are part of a large problem and because so become evil. Because anybody that is willing to kill somebody without even thinking about it is evil.

    The question is, do they even have the capacity to perceive that they are killing?

    The Paper Mario games have pretty intelligent Goombas, the one from The Thousand Year Door was pretty smart because she was the one that identified enemies.

    Also one in Super Mario RPG was smart enough to run a shop, have kids, and get away from Bowsers gang. As a matter of fact Bowser's entire army (which was like 5 goombas, 5 koopas, and 5 magikoopas) disbanded and found work elsewhere.

    But are those games like... canon? Neither are in the main Mario series. Hopefully this is the only time I ever question the continuity of the Mario universe.

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    #24  Edited By Kerned

    @Hizang said:

    If Goomba's follow Bowsers orders without thinking, then they are part of a large problem and because so become evil. Because anybody that is willing to kill somebody without even thinking about it is evil.

    Maybe from the goombas' perspective they are simply defending their home. All they know is that some guy in overalls is stomping their brothers and sisters. I don't think we can assume that Bowser is keeping them up to date on the princess' kidnapping, so how can they know that they are working on the side of evil?

    (This, of course, assumes that the princess is herself not evil, and that Bowser doesn't have a morally defensible justification for her abduction, which he may.)

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    #25  Edited By Getz

    Neither, they're just easily led.

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    #26  Edited By musclerider

    As mentioned earlier a Goomba's is just a blind follower.

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    #27  Edited By FluxWaveZ

    Goomba's Souls.

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    #28  Edited By Milkman

    They're just doing their jobs.

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    #29  Edited By NekuSakuraba

    Mario is an asshole. Poor Goombas. :(

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    #30  Edited By Metric_Outlaw

    You are being a horrible racist. If you look at the Paper Mario franchise you see that only the radical goombas are in Bowsers army. You've completely ignored the population that has a rich and diverse culture of tattling and archeology.

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    #31  Edited By Hizang

    @Hunter5024 said:

    @Nottle said:

    @Hunter5024 said:

    @Hizang said:

    If Goomba's follow Bowsers orders without thinking, then they are part of a large problem and because so become evil. Because anybody that is willing to kill somebody without even thinking about it is evil.

    The question is, do they even have the capacity to perceive that they are killing?

    The Paper Mario games have pretty intelligent Goombas, the one from The Thousand Year Door was pretty smart because she was the one that identified enemies.

    Also one in Super Mario RPG was smart enough to run a shop, have kids, and get away from Bowsers gang. As a matter of fact Bowser's entire army (which was like 5 goombas, 5 koopas, and 5 magikoopas) disbanded and found work elsewhere.

    But are those games like... canon? Neither are in the main Mario series. Hopefully this is the only time I ever question the continuity of the Mario universe.

    Ok lets do this right here right now.

    SHOW ME THE MARIO TIMELINE!

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    #32  Edited By Nottle

    @Hizang said:

    @Hunter5024 said:

    @Nottle said:

    @Hunter5024 said:

    @Hizang said:

    If Goomba's follow Bowsers orders without thinking, then they are part of a large problem and because so become evil. Because anybody that is willing to kill somebody without even thinking about it is evil.

    The question is, do they even have the capacity to perceive that they are killing?

    The Paper Mario games have pretty intelligent Goombas, the one from The Thousand Year Door was pretty smart because she was the one that identified enemies.

    Also one in Super Mario RPG was smart enough to run a shop, have kids, and get away from Bowsers gang. As a matter of fact Bowser's entire army (which was like 5 goombas, 5 koopas, and 5 magikoopas) disbanded and found work elsewhere.

    But are those games like... canon? Neither are in the main Mario series. Hopefully this is the only time I ever question the continuity of the Mario universe.

    Ok lets do this right here right now.

    SHOW ME THE MARIO TIMELINE!

    Are any Mario games Canon? Mario dreamt up Shyguy and Birdo, but they still exist,

    Here's my Theory, all Mario games take place on a branch of the Zelda timeline, PROOF, Mario enemies and characters appear in Links Awakening, the game that was all a dream. Then In Super Mario RPG you can see Link Sleeping. Follow the Windfish.

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    #33  Edited By granderojo

    Bowser has an Orwellian dictatorship over the Goomba, this has been established canon since Mario RPG. They've expressed that they want to "seek revenge against all who have treated them poorly" but all their goals seem based around Bowser's self interest.

    If you've been playing a Mario game you've been executing through crushing the cartoonized manipulated citizens of an Orwell novel. I bet that makes you feel like an asshole now.

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    #35  Edited By Animasta

    @Hizang said:

    @Animasta said:

    @Hizang said:

    @Animasta said:

    and a goomba's job is to walk. It is not to kill Mario, that is what the other enemies are for.

    In Super Mario 64 and Super Mario Galaxy they will run at Mario, how do you counter act this!

    they were confused by the jump to 3d.

    tehy are not actually running AT mario, they are trying to get on his virtual plane.

    In Paper Mario Sticker Star they will run at Mario, the first boss is against a whole army of Goombas.

    listen man sometimes these goomba's just have bad days man.

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    #36  Edited By icicle7x3

    Forget Goombas, what about Shy Guys?

    Or hell, what about Thwomps, are Thwomps evil?

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    #37  Edited By audiosnow

    "If Goomba's follow Bowsers orders..."

    ...

    And, no, they aren't.

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    #38  Edited By inkerman

    It does seem to be a large scale, multi-species effort in the fight against Mario (and presumably the Mushroom Kingdom). Is it possible that Princess Peach is leading some sort of pro-Human/pro-Mushroom person regime that excludes other races?

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    #39  Edited By CommodoreGroovy

    Goombas gotta eat.

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    #40  Edited By Hunter5024

    @Inkerman said:

    It does seem to be a large scale, multi-species effort in the fight against Mario (and presumably the Mushroom Kingdom). Is it possible that Princess Peach is leading some sort of pro-Human/pro-Mushroom person regime that excludes other races?

    Whoa. Next time I'm just going to leave her with Bowser.

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    #41  Edited By MooseyMcMan

    Not all are evil. Play the RPGs, they can talk and junk. Some have worked with Mario.

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    #42  Edited By nightriff

    They are brainwashed. And only a few of them actually believe what Bowser says, but are afraid of what would happen if they didn't listen and didn't follow in line. Some of them have tried to escape the Mushroom Kingdom but some guy kept jumping on them.

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    #43  Edited By GunstarRed

    Nothing good will ever stack itself in a pile like a Goomba does.

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    #44  Edited By dungbootle

    They have no free-will, they are Bowser's genetically engineered soldiers, which is why they have no genitalia.

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    #45  Edited By NegativeCero

    I'm gonna say they follow Bowser partly because they're lost without him and partly out of fear. Not necessarily because they're evil.

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    #46  Edited By TheSouthernDandy

    You're all a buncha tree huggin libertarian goomba lovin hippies!! Suuure let's not blame em for what they do let's just all welcome em into our homes! You just wait till the reds are kickin down your front door then you'll see!

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    #47  Edited By Phatmac

    Don't hurt the goomba :(

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    #48  Edited By RVonE

    @evanbower said:

    @Kerned said:

    I think that it's made pretty clear in Bowser's Inside Story that they are basically hapless buffoons who are only following orders.

    Also in Hannah Arendt's A Report on the Banality of Evil.

    Wow. Nice pull.

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    #49  Edited By Hailinel
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    @ImmortalSaiyan: If you think about it, Goomba's are just fighting for what they think is right, as is Mario. Mario VS Goomba is just a way of explaining a war to children, both sides think what they are doing is right when really neither side is right.

    THAT IS NOT HOW YOU USE POSSESSIVE APOSTROPHES ARGH.
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    @Hailinel said:

    @Hizang

    @ImmortalSaiyan: If you think about it, Goomba's are just fighting for what they think is right, as is Mario. Mario VS Goomba is just a way of explaining a war to children, both sides think what they are doing is right when really neither side is right.

    THAT IS NOT HOW YOU USE POSSESSIVE APOSTROPHES ARGH.

    You and Fattony12000 should go out on a date. You both have a lot in common, such as your shared love of the Caps Lock and/or Shift keys.

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