" I wonder how many million this game has to sell to break even. "

Wish I could play GT5 or at least try it out somewhere, but I don't have a PS3 and neither do any of my friends. Guess I'll have to stick with Forza 3. It's a shame, I really enjoy driving games, especially those that are on the realistic side.

I have no PS3. I have no job to buy a PS3 or this game. Therefore: 
 
Preferable hype: fairly high 
 
Realistic hype: non-existent

I hate GT games with a passion. Why? Because the damn developers decided to make more useless racing sims instead of a sequel to the best mecha game ever. Hmph,

Biggest game launch in 5 years.

Yeah?  
 
Seems it isn't even the biggest game of November.  Yearly CoD and AC2 BROHOOD is probably going to outsell and out-mindshare it, respectively.

I love racing simulators. My favourite things about them are the visuals, especially the tyre marks. I would be interested in GT5 but their negligence to include tyre marks ruins the whole game for me. Without even playing it it's a 1* at best 
 
lol jk 
 
GT5 looks really nice, but aside from the eye candy it has nothing I can't get on my PC with rFactor (and soon rFactor 2), Richard Burns Rally and GTR2. You have 1000 cars, I have hundreds of thousands. Granted yours are all very pretty but if that was all I wanted I wouldn't be anywhere near rfactor.
 
GT5 had a budget of $60 million, that means for it to break even it would need sales of at least 10,000,000... GT4 sold 11 million copies in total. The thing is, GT4 was on the PS2, and there have been 140 million PS2's sold and only 38 million PS3's, so if they get half of the 10,000,000 they will be doing well. 

" I love racing simulators. My favourite things about them are the visuals, especially the tyre marks. I would be interested in GT5 but their negligence to include tyre marks ruins the whole game for me. Without even playing it it's a 1* at best  lol jk  GT5 looks really nice, but aside from the eye candy it has nothing I can't get on my PC with rFactor (and soon rFactor 2), Richard Burns Rally and GTR2. You have 1000 cars, I have hundreds of thousands. Granted yours are all very pretty but if that was all I wanted I wouldn't be anywhere near rfactor. GT5 had a budget of $60 million, that means for it to break even it would need sales of at least 10,000,000... GT4 sold 11 million copies in total. The thing is, GT4 was on the PS2, and there have been 140 million PS2's sold and only 38 million PS3's, so if they get half of the 10,000,000 they will be doing well.  "

" @Devil240Z said:

" @Hero_Swe said:

" @Devil240Z said:

" @Hero_Swe said:

" "Real Driving Simulator"   The first time I heard that subtitle I think I cramped up my stomache laughing, still makes me giggle everytime I read it. "  

Do you use public transportation?  "

Only when I'm too lazy to drive my Koenigsegg "

I will take that as a yes. If you don't understand cars then you cant appreciate a game like GT. For me not being behind the wheel of a fast car is equivalent to being dead. Even now I wish I were racing.  "

Actually I can appriciate it, it's just a shame that they themselves think it is "THE real driving simulator" if you know what I mean. Sure, not everyone has a G25/G27 and a good computer to play rFactor or GTR 2 or any other real sim on the pc. What's worse is people actually believing it is the best driving sim out there. "

I'm interested just to see the fan response.

" @Hero_Swe said:

" @Devil240Z said:

" @Hero_Swe said:

" @Devil240Z said:

" @Hero_Swe said:

" "Real Driving Simulator"   The first time I heard that subtitle I think I cramped up my stomache laughing, still makes me giggle everytime I read it. "  

Do you use public transportation?  "

Only when I'm too lazy to drive my Koenigsegg "

I will take that as a yes. If you don't understand cars then you cant appreciate a game like GT. For me not being behind the wheel of a fast car is equivalent to being dead. Even now I wish I were racing.  "

Actually I can appriciate it, it's just a shame that they themselves think it is "THE real driving simulator" if you know what I mean. Sure, not everyone has a G25/G27 and a good computer to play rFactor or GTR 2 or any other real sim on the pc. What's worse is people actually believing it is the best driving sim out there. "

Yeah, GT5 is hardly the best simulator.  Sometimes I even question the simulation part altogether.  "

" @mastrbiggy said:

" @Hero_Swe said:

" @Devil240Z said:

" @Hero_Swe said:

" @Devil240Z said:

" @Hero_Swe said:

" "Real Driving Simulator"   The first time I heard that subtitle I think I cramped up my stomache laughing, still makes me giggle everytime I read it. "  

Do you use public transportation?  "

Only when I'm too lazy to drive my Koenigsegg "

I will take that as a yes. If you don't understand cars then you cant appreciate a game like GT. For me not being behind the wheel of a fast car is equivalent to being dead. Even now I wish I were racing.  "

Actually I can appriciate it, it's just a shame that they themselves think it is "THE real driving simulator" if you know what I mean. Sure, not everyone has a G25/G27 and a good computer to play rFactor or GTR 2 or any other real sim on the pc. What's worse is people actually believing it is the best driving sim out there. "

Yeah, GT5 is hardly the best simulator.  Sometimes I even question the simulation part altogether.  "

The developers of GT5 did work very hard simulating the experience of racing and the tracks you race on.  I mean they certainly have the money to take them all over and gather the data they need.  I think the big difference is they made it so you could play the game fully with a playstation controller.  So maybe that's why it's not as sensitive as those PC racing sims.  In games like rFacter and LFS you can lose control so easily that it feels like you're racing on ice.  I don't know if that's real or not, but I find it more enjoyable to race in GT5 (Prologue) where it feels like you have real traction even with all assists off.  Who knows what they've changed for the full game though, but yeah it's definitely easier than PC racing sims.  Again though, I don't know how realistic those sims actually are.  "

"  I cant wait to see what the reviews say, mainly to see how many GOTY awards GT gets. At minimum all of europe will give it GOTY, The US is much more critical about how long development has taken. Even though they forget that every GT has been like this. I guess reviewers are just too used to games like COD coming yearly.  

Yup, I was totally right.

" Yup, I was totally right. "

This is one game that I really wish I could get into (well, any hardcore racing game for that matter). But the controls just completely escape me; I could barely do a lap in the time trial demo.  
 
But have fun, hope it's as good as you hoped. 

I just put a bet on imcalling.it at 3 stars after watching the Justintv session the guys did.  
 
People are pulling their hair out over in the Racing Simulator community, and people now like Forza 3 more than they thought they did. 
 
It's a shame. I was genuinely hoping this would be the game that made me buy a PS3, but I'm not interested.

" "Real Driving Simulator"   The first time I heard that subtitle I think I cramped up my stomache laughing, still makes me giggle everytime I read it. "

" @Hero_Swe said:

" "Real Driving Simulator"   The first time I heard that subtitle I think I cramped up my stomache laughing, still makes me giggle everytime I read it. "

because people liking stuff you probably don´t care about is a good reason to mock at them right? "

The long development cycle didn't result in a great game, which is unfortunate. They tried to make both a game and a simulator and did neither well. There's so much imprecision in the design of the game and the feature set but I'm not sure what we all expected after all these years.
 
Maybe next time.

You know, in 10 years when GT6 comes out, I'm gonna probably be pissed when it turns out to be exactly the same game as all the others since GT4/GT5P were really underwhelming to me and it seems very little has changed.  
 
Why the fuck can't I look around in the cockpit with the right stick?  I always love it when I have to guess where other cars are in relation to mine when we're racing close.  
 
They've promised a bunch of patches so I wonder if it'll be improved much or if that's just a bunch of bs.