DO NOT LISTEN TO THE BOMBCAST

Post by brainboy77 (130 posts) See mini bio

278 ACH / 4815 P

Loading...

If you guys plan on buying TBOGT, do not listen to Ryan hating on the game. A lot of his grievances about the game seem unfounded. The story is really top-notch; the player sees what happens when people who achieve the American Dream start to have everything slip away. When you played as Niko, you keep hearing about making it big, but you never really see it. In TBOGT, you actually witness the good life and see why Niko and Roman want to make it on top. AS for the gameplay, you're doing a lot of crazier stuff than before. It doesn't fit 100% with the world, as Ryan said, but it's hella fun, which is what naysayers wanted after bemoaning the lack of san andreas-type gameplay. The side missions, especially base-jumping, are really fun and there is a lot of replay value. At the end of the day, it's GTA4 but bigger and better. I don't know what game Ryan was playing, but it definitely still holds up. If MW2 did not come out this year, this would be my GOTY.

Posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago

Post by MrKlorox (1,348 posts) See mini bio

617 ACH / 9260 P

Loading...

Agreed. I find it laughable that GTA4 got 5 stars and BOGT only got 3. Perhaps he still had a little egg left in his beard about the absurdly high GTA4 review.

Or was that Jeff's review? I can't seem to find any staff reviews for anything other than BOGT on the GTA4 page.

Edited 2 weeks, 4 days ago

Post by Red (2,965 posts) See mini bio

567 ACH / 8825 P

Loading...

@brainboy77: Opinion.

It's not fact.

Posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago

Post by wolf_blitzer85 (231 posts) See mini bio

261 ACH / 1730 P

Loading...

It's okay Ryan tends to hate on everything I noticed, but then again multiple Uwe Boll movies in a row would make me hate the world too.

Edited 2 weeks, 4 days ago

Post by PantyshotMQN (220 posts) See mini bio

827 ACH / 11740 P

Loading...

@wolf_blitzer85:
You're right. I blame Uwe for doing this to Ryan.

Posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago

Post by ElectricBoogaloo (142 posts) See mini bio

2404 ACH / 48269 P

Loading...

Don't listen to someone else's opinion!

I agree with him, the story is lacking compared to GTAIV and TLAD, and Luis isn't a very endearing character with a lot of loose ends. It's still good and better than most, but GTA demands a certain degree of excellence that Gay Tony fails to reach, in my opinion, of course - before this gets treated like fact as well.

The dialogue is still fantastic, though.

Posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago

Post by TheJuda (5 posts) See mini bio

1743 ACH / 35874 P

Loading...

I thought TBOGT was fair. It wasn't spectacular, but it was far from bad. This is of course comparing it to IV and TLAD and being fair in the GTA universe is still miles ahead of many other games out there, many that cost a lot more than $20. The dialogue and scenes are still amazing and *most* of characters are top notch.

When Ryan said it was looking out dated, I disagreed whole heartedly. Yes, it's using an older engine but for what it does, it still looks great. I liked Luis as a main character. He wasn't whiny like Jimmy and kept a cool head in all regards, much like Carl did in San Andreas. The only real issue I had with TBOGT was they didn't spread out the missions.

They had 3 helicopter missions in a row and then three parachuting missions in a row and so on. If they mixed them up, it owuld have been better IMO. Still, over all it was a great game for what it was.

Posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago

Post by JJOR64 (6,050 posts) See mini bio

2221 ACH / 40798 P

Loading...

Online Now

Opinions are opinions and nothing can change that.

Posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago

Post by MrKlorox (1,348 posts) See mini bio

617 ACH / 9260 P

Loading...

@TheJuda said:

" The only real issue I had with TBOGT was they didn't spread out the missions. They had 3 helicopter missions in a row and then three parachuting missions in a row and so on. If they mixed them up, it owuld have been better IMO. "

The non-linear aspect of which mission giver your visit resolves this. You just unluckily followed that order. My game was pretty well spread.

Posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago

Post by natetodamax (7,037 posts) See mini bio

1386 ACH / 27902 P

Loading...

If you don't listen to the Bombcast, you are a bad person.

Posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago

Post by angelkanarias (929 posts) See mini bio

278 ACH / 2525 P

Loading...

I don't always agree with their opinions, but I won't stop listening because I am not in favor with some of their ideals. The podcast is great and you can use your own judgment for a game and rationalize the discussions, it's as simple as that. As long as you aren't a sheep of their opinions you should be ok. If you are, then you should jump from a rooftop, because with that behavior you won't do any good to our society.

Posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago

Post by Kamasama (1,352 posts) See mini bio

220 ACH / 3400 P

Loading...

Avoid opposing points of view at all costs!

Posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago

Post by Milkman (2,725 posts) See mini bio

2068 ACH / 35283 P

Loading...

While I did enjoy The Ballad of Gay Tony a lot more than it seemed Ryan did, I certainly would talk his opinion over yours if I haven't played it yet.

Posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago

Post by Siris (100 posts) See mini bio

1537 ACH / 26155 P

Loading...

Yes, we already know. Ryan was way off in his review.

Posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago

Post by TheJuda (5 posts) See mini bio

1743 ACH / 35874 P

Loading...

@MrKlorox:

True enough. I can see how that would happen. It was just the way my game played out. I did try to space it out with random stranger missions but I always got to them at the wrong time.

Posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago

Post by MildMolasses (55 posts) See mini bio

1880 ACH / 35560 P

Loading...

Perhaps the title of this should be "Ignore Ryan's Opinion" rathet than your wording, which upon initial reading, implies that I shouldn't be listening to the podcast

Posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago

Post by Shifty_Mcfly (42 posts) See mini bio

382 ACH / 6940 P

Loading...

Online Now

His opinion is unfounded because it's different than yours, right. Why don't you just write a review rather than moan about it, and say Ryan's wrong. This expansion is based on a game that's almost 2 year old, things have changed. Why is it laughable that people have made better games in the time since GTA4 came out?

Posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago

Post by End_Boss (2,013 posts) See mini bio

Loading...

Opinions are great.

Posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago

Post by Sam1193 (57 posts) See mini bio

947 ACH / 15976 P

Loading...

It's his opinion, dude. I liked the Ballad of Gay Tony, but I agree with Ryan on the dated controls.

Posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago

Post by Jimbo (1,168 posts) See mini bio

457 ACH / 7665 P

Loading...

Nah, listen to it. I disagreed with most of it but I still like to hear what other people took from a game.

The main thing that stood out to me was the talk about the over-use of epithets compared to the OC and TLAD. I took that to be a deliberate theme in the game, stemming from the title itself: the protagonist doesn't use them and always rolls his eyes, chastises or throws them back at anybody else whenever they use them - he's also the only character (from what I've played so far) that isn't portrayed as a total loser.

I didn't feel like the Brucie scenes were played for laughs this time around, I found them quite uncomfortable to watch. Brucie became an actual character rather than the characature he was in the OC. Kinda like the development from Bernie to Gay Tony (the introduction of the Bernie character was the moment I realised I hated the GTA4 storyline btw). It felt like Rockstar were tearing down a lot of the bullshit cliches they built up in GTA 4 and I found that very refreshing.

Yusuf took Brucie's old 'just for laughs' position in the game and, imo, trumped him handily.

Posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago

Post by Asurastrike (1,129 posts) See mini bio

577 ACH / 8185 P

Loading...

GTAIV felt dated when it came out in 2008. It feels even more dated now.

Posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago

Post by RoyaleWifCheese (104 posts) See mini bio

1065 ACH / 20126 P

Loading...

So because Ryan dislikes TBOGT more than you, I shouldn't listen to the Bombcast? I'm still gonna get it whether Ryan likes it or not. Certainly not a reason stop listening to the only thing capable of making my Wednesday morning commute enjoyable.

Edited 2 weeks, 4 days ago

Post by trophyhunter (1,663 posts) See mini bio

1130 ACH / 14320 P

Loading...

well gta4 it's self is an awful game and I can't believe an add-on to it would make it any better

Posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago

Post by Gargantuan (335 posts) See mini bio

899 ACH / 16170 P

Loading...

@natetodamax said:

" If you don't listen to the Bombcast, you are a bad person. "

Then I must be a horrible person since I've only listened to two or three bombcasts. Never more than 20 minutes too. It's more fun to play games than listen to guys talking about games.

Back on topic though. I think TBOGT is much better than both the original story and TLAD, atleast so far.

Posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago

Post by natetodamax (7,037 posts) See mini bio

1386 ACH / 27902 P

Loading...

@Gargantuan said:

" @natetodamax said:
" If you don't listen to the Bombcast, you are a bad person. "
Then I must be a horrible person since I've only listened to two or three bombcasts. Never more than 20 minutes too. It's more fun to play games than listen to guys talking about games. Back on topic though. I think TBOGT is much better than both the original story and TLAD, atleast so far. "

Wasn't trying to insult anyone, just quoting Jeff Gerstmann, lol

Posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago

Post by Hailinel (1,467 posts) See mini bio

44 ACH / 340 P

Loading...

Ryan hated on The Ballad of Gay Tony.

Ryan loved Rabbids Go Home.

Obviously, Ryan is a raging Wii fanboy and is only hating on TBOGT because of that.

SPOILER WARNING: Click here to reveal hidden content.

And if you believe the above line of reasoning, or anything similar to it, you're an idiot. Welcome to the world of differing opinion.

Posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago

Post by Kou_Leifoh (1,547 posts) See mini bio

Loading...

@wolf_blitzer85 said:

" It's okay Ryan tends to hate on everything I noticed, but then again multiple Uwe Boll movies in a row would make me hate the world too. "

No, Jeff is the one who tends to hate every thing, not Mr. Davis.

Posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago

Post by Kamasama (1,352 posts) See mini bio

220 ACH / 3400 P

Loading...

@Gargantuan said:

" It's more fun to play games than listen to guys talking about games. "

Good thing some of us can multitask.

Posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago

Post by C0V3RT (251 posts) See mini bio

2844 ACH / 66910 P

Loading...

I don't support not listening to the Bombcast, but if you wanted to make your point you probably could have just given the time frame they talk about BOGT and tell people to skip that section.

Posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago

Post by MrKlorox (1,348 posts) See mini bio

617 ACH / 9260 P

Loading...

@Jimbo said:

" Kinda like the development from Bernie to Gay Tony (the introduction of the Bernie character was the moment I realised I hated the GTA4 storyline btw). "

TBF the early rendition of Gay Tony (and I don't mean visual -- in the few cutscenes that overlap with GTA4) wasn't far from Bernie. He and Evan both sounded and behaved very stereotypically. Though it was hard to tell with the little exposure given. But nothing compares to Reni from VCS.

/cringes and shudders

Edited 2 weeks, 4 days ago

Grand Theft Auto: Episodes from Liberty City Forum

DO NOT LISTEN TO THE BOMBCAST