completely and utterly tired of everyone and their mom whining about this game.  "It's not fun.  I just want to blow shit up!  Saints Row rapes this game!"  I loved this game, and I think Saints row is a gimmicky piece of garbage. 

Completely agreed, except for the last part. Saints Row is not a piece of shit. It's actually a lot of fun but nearly as good as GTA.

...I'm not sure who says that, but....they have there own misguided opinions.

well im tired of those people too but i dont think saints row is a gimmicky piece of garbage.

people expected GTA IV to be the second coming of christ and when it couldnt meet unattainable expectations people lashed out

Granted, I'm talking about SR, not SR2, but the activities were so unbelievably shallow.  Like the devs think taxi missions and picking up prostitutes is still the hook to open-world games. 

It really goes all on what you prefer, if you enjoyed GTAIV more because of the more real simulation world it tried to do thats your thing, but that also made the cons of it stand out way easier, the fact that it was the kind of world they tried to make, Saint's Row 2 will in generally of just craziness and a ton of weapons/things to do that are just nuts and made for pure fun, hands down beats GTAIV ..because thats the riskt hey took, they made GTAIV with narrative in mind, they told what most would agree was a pretty great story, in a more realistic seeming world,  in exchange for less just open world fun because most of the cool weapons and crazy shit you could do in other installments were cut off. I prefer Saints Row 2 to GTAIV by far , I don't care about the few bugs it has..just from the second I did the first mission and realized how much better the combat was, since it feels like a normal shooter, and all the craziness of melee styles and shit, I immediately liked it more than I liked the entire game of GTAIV, but to each their own.

I did enjoy Saints Row, but it wouldn't exist if it wasn't for GTA. Rockstar remains miles ahead of the competition with GTAIV, and pretty much surpasses just about any next-gen game you can find.

Haha, dude. Really, I expected this thread to be about something totally different. I was kinda hoping you were gonna say "I can't be the only one... WHO DESPERATELY WISHES I COULD THROW SOME HOT DOGS!" Hahaha, while playing a couple days ago, I noticed you can lock onto people while eating food, and at that moment I thought to myself "Dude, if I can throw this hot dog at that dude's face, this is the greatest game in the history of video games!", but unfortunately, it turns out you can't do it. Oh well, maybe they'll add that in the DLC, but I won't get my hopes up. ;)

Hahaha, while playing a couple days ago, I noticed you can lock onto people while eating food, and at that moment I thought to myself "Dude, if I can throw this hot dog at that dude's face, this is the greatest game in the history of video games!", but unfortunately, it turns out you can't do it. Oh well, maybe they'll add that in the DLC, but I won't get my hopes up. ;)"

Hahaha, yeah. Absolutely, dude.

There's a bit of irony in your post.

I think both Saints Row and GTAIV are a childish waste of time. : D

It's the same with other acclaimed things like Halo 3. The majority likes it, but the people that dislikes it are the ones talking the most.

"It's the same with other acclaimed things like Halo 3. The majority likes it, but the people that dislikes it are the ones talking the most."

Wouldn't call Saints Row garbage but it definitely doesn't top on GTAIV.

"completely and utterly tired of everyone and their mom whining about this game.  "It's not fun.  I just want to blow shit up!  Saints Row rapes this game!"  I loved this game, and I think Saints row is a gimmicky piece of garbage. "

I dont really like either one of the two. Though I did buy GTA IV and definately wont be buying Saints Row 2 so I guess that would rate GTA better in my books.

I agree Saint's Row 2 is inferior in almost all respects. 

I haven't played Saints Row 2, but it seems like they are two very different games. 

I couldn't get used to the controls in GTA4. Making it so you had to press a button to jog was really frustrating for me. 

"completely and utterly tired of everyone and their mom whining about this game.  "It's not fun.  I just want to blow shit up!  Saints Row rapes this game!"  I loved this game, and I think Saints row is a gimmicky piece of garbage. "

"I did enjoy Saints Row, but it wouldn't exist if it wasn't for GTA. Rockstar remains miles ahead of the competition with GTAIV, and pretty much surpasses just about any next-gen game you can find.

Haha, dude. Really, I expected this thread to be about something totally different. I was kinda hoping you were gonna say "I can't be the only one... WHO DESPERATELY WISHES I COULD THROW SOME HOT DOGS!" Hahaha, while playing a couple days ago, I noticed you can lock onto people while eating food, and at that moment I thought to myself "Dude, if I can throw this hot dog at that dude's face, this is the greatest game in the history of video games!", but unfortunately, it turns out you can't do it. Oh well, maybe they'll add that in the DLC, but I won't get my hopes up. ;)"

I don't exactly LIKE Saints Row, but it definitely isn't garbage...

I love both GTA 4 and Saints row for completly different reasons. I love GTA 4 because of its more realistic gameplay and a great story and i love saints row because of its craziness but still GTA 4 is better than saints row and the reasons why people say that gta 4 sucks is completly dumb because it is not about blowing shit up and flying around with a jetpack it is about its living breathing world and a great story around that world and i am just really irritated for these gta san andreas fanboys just going off about how this game sucks 

People either want to be mobsters or want to blow up stuff. It depends on what you want.

my opinion=gta4 sucks and should die and idc about saints row either

yours=gta4 rocks my socks

see how things work out : )

I think GTA IV is the best game in years, and Saints Row 2 is an average game. Nothing glarlngly bad about it; it's just ok.  Fun in short bursts I guess.

I know a few people who did not like Grand Theft Auto 4 because it took a different approach to the series.  Personally I love the new direction, I mean yeah blowing stuff up is cool but I would rather have a more realistic storyline. 

"completely and utterly tired of everyone and their mom whining about this game.  "It's not fun.  I just want to blow shit up!  Saints Row rapes this game!"  I loved this game, and I think Saints row is a gimmicky piece of garbage. "

I played both GTA4 and Saints Row 2 and kinda give the nod to Saints 2 since its not as a realistic game like Rockstar was taking to make GTA4 into. I had more fun with Saints 2 since it is a ton that you can do in that game with reminded me alot of San Andreas in terms of customizing your character and I loved the missions. I hated the graphics only because they didn't look like they improved from the first game. I liked GTA4's story more than Saints Row 2 only because of the excellent voice acting but the missions were kinda lame.

GTA4 = Worst in the series
GTA4 = A pimple on the ass of Rockstar
GTA4 = Broken

GTAIII(and u could say vice city too) were the last good grand theft auto imo...

San Andreas was was too big and story was stupid(jet packs? come on now!)

GTA IV is the best game that I've ever played.

That said, I loved all the past installments, and I really believe that every single one that has come out has been the perfect game at the perfect time for Rockstar.

I have fun every time I play GTA IV, and I found the story engaging and entertaining and everything I wanted from that game.

This was a blog no one asked for.  The opinion presented by the OP is old and done

I loved GTAIV. I don't have the will to ever play it again though.

For a "mature" rated game; I found Saint's Row to be terribly immature.   Not my type of game.