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FFN in GTA IV : The Lost and Damned caused another controversy

Topic started by daniel_beck_90 on March 2, 2009. Last post by Hockeymask27 3 months, 2 weeks ago.
Post by daniel_beck_90 (2,289 posts) See mini bio

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Common Sense Media, a group who looks to review entertainment products for children, has spoken out against Rockstar’s latest offering The Lost and Damned. As many of you know the expansion pack for the ever-popular GTA IV includes a scene of full frontal male nudity.

"Heavy violence, strong language -- and now nudity," the group said. "Thought this M-rated game series couldn't go any lower? Think again."

Common Sense Media reviewer Marc Saltzman said that the game, developed by Rockstar Games and published by Take-Two Interactive Software, contains depictions of full-frontal male nudity. It also has graphically violent scenes, including one in which a gang member's face is pressed against the spinning wheel of a motorcycle.

The game, Saltzman said, "should be kept away -- far away -- from children."

Lawmakers from , and other states have tried to prevent minors from getting their hands on Mature-rated video games, but their efforts have met resistance from federal courts.

On Feb. 20, a three-judge panel of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco upheld a District Court ruling from 2007 that invalidated a California law banning the sale or rental of violent games to people younger than 18.

The appeals court agreed with the trial court that the law was a violation of the First Amendment, which protects free speech. Similar laws in , , , , and have been struck down by federal courts on First Amendment grounds.




Post by ArchScabby (2,308 posts) See mini bio
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I love Rockstar.


Post by PureRok (2,989 posts) See mini bio
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Ok... I like how they have to say "Should be kept far away from children."

No fucking shit. That's why there's a God damn giant M for Mature on the box, you fucking douche bags.


Post by DoctorTran (533 posts) See mini bio
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PureRok said:
"Ok... I like how they have to say "Should be kept far away from children."

No fucking shit. That's why there's a God damn giant M for Mature on the box, you fucking douche bags.
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Absolutely agreed. We have rating systems for a damn reason.


Post by optimusprime223 (193 posts) See mini bio
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DoctorTran said:
"PureRok said:
"Ok... I like how they have to say "Should be kept far away from children."

No fucking shit. That's why there's a God damn giant M for Mature on the box, you fucking douche bags.
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Absolutely agreed. We have rating systems for a damn reason.
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so true, this group contracted itself in its first line with the term 'M Rated', so is such a load of shit. They cant review something that isnt meant for kids as for kids, its not hard people.


Post by Metal_Gear_Sunny (2,813 posts) See mini bio

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We saw this coming.


Post by Aurelito (457 posts) See mini bio

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PureRok said:
"Ok... I like how they have to say "Should be kept far away from children."

No fucking shit. That's why there's a God damn giant M for Mature on the box, you fucking douche bags.
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Some parents just don't understand. I haven't purchased the DLC due f*cking lack of internet speed but everyone knows that it's a "Male" frontal nudity. for a kid, genital organs don't have a very specular meaning. No one jumped from his mother's stomach out with a prefect knowledge about sexuality.


Post by daniel_beck_90 (2,289 posts) See mini bio

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PureRok said:
"Ok... I like how they have to say "Should be kept far away from children."

No fucking shit. That's why there's a God damn giant M for Mature on the box, you fucking douche bags.
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  Could not agree more


Post by Geno (935 posts) See mini bio
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"Omg this X-rated movie has sex and violence in it wtf"

"Omg this cookie has sugar in it wtf"

"Omg cocaine makes you high wtf"

"Omg the atmosphere is like totally made of gases wtf"

Common Sense Media? More like Nonsense Media (to put it lightly).




Post by RHCPfan24 (6,255 posts) See mini bio
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Of course this is not supposed to be for children! I don't know why they decide to say that again when the whole GTA series is already known as an ADULTS game, or responsible teenagers at least. And, come on, the whole nudity move was brilliant by Rockstar. Have we ever seen this before in games? Not really, and Rockstar always turns a few heads whenever they are around.


Post by DuhQbnSiLo (896 posts) See mini bio
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people are idiots....  some of these people should get beat up but 6 graders, grow up!

the game is rated M, kids aren't suppose to be playing anyways


Post by Death_Unicorn (1,029 posts) See mini bio
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PureRok said:
"Ok... I like how they have to say "Should be kept far away from children."

No fucking shit. That's why there's a God damn giant M for Mature on the box, you fucking douche bags.
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This.


Post by SavoyPrime (15 posts) See mini bio
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Of course it should be kept away from children. It's a M-rated game you damn idiots!!! Man, do these groups have nothing better to do with their time?!


Post by GamerGeek360 (752 posts) See mini bio
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I saw the video online when I first got the DLC and then the next day I got to the cutscene and skipped it.


Post by Arkthemaniac (5,584 posts) See mini bio

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Well, don't they have other things to worry about!?

"Help! Help! People keep buying things they don't need or really want with money they don't have!"

"NOT NOW, STEVE!!!! We have digital penises to worry about . . . "

Also, I don't mean to pick out details, but after watching the cutscene online . . . is there something wrong with his wang? It looks odd.


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DoctorTran said:
"PureRok said:
"Ok... I like how they have to say "Should be kept far away from children."

No fucking shit. That's why there's a God damn giant M for Mature on the box, you fucking douche bags."
Absolutely agreed. We have rating systems for a damn reason."
Do you even know WHY we have a rating system, or who runs it?

The ESRB is run BY THE VIDEO GAME INDUSTRY!  It's self-policing.  Just because there is an emblem on the front saying "look, it's not for your kid", that doesn't mean the video game industry doesn't want it sold to those kids.  Why do you think that EVERY GTA game features cartoon-style animated characters on the cover box art?  It's the same reason that Joe Camel was a cartoon.

Saying that there's a big rating on the front doesn't mean shit.  The kids aren't the ones buying the game.  The PARENTS are buying it, as most major retailers "check IDs" now.

Therefore, instead of the ratings business, maybe we need to teach parents that the words "Grand Theft Auto" are a felony crime punishable by prison time?


Post by Arkthemaniac (5,584 posts) See mini bio

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I don't see the big deal, anyways. It's a wang. A trouser snake. IT'S A PENIS.

That's not as bad as mass murder, for Christ's sake. In fact, all I get out of this is that we have screwed up priorities when it comes to our children.


Post by Meowayne (2,696 posts) See mini bio
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Ah, Americans.




Post by Bucketdeth (4,215 posts) See mini bio
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I`m pretty sure Rockstar just does these things for fun, there pretty much saying "Come sue me mother fuckers, I dare you"


Post by systech (3,165 posts) See mini bio
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They don't understand why Rockstar takes these kind of actions. It's to help the children! How else would anyone know how to talk their heroine purchasing girlfriends or how to get away from police by shooting a sawed-off shotgun while driving a motorcycle?


Post by Arkthemaniac (5,584 posts) See mini bio

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systech said:
"They don't understand why Rockstar takes these kind of actions. It's to help the children! How else would anyone know how to talk their heroine purchasing girlfriends or how to shoot a sawed-off shotgun while driving a motorcycle to get away from police?"



Post by brukaoru (3,290 posts) See mini bio
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Yes, let's all go back to playing kiddie games and forsake all other mature entertainment in order to "protect" the children.


Post by Weltal (1,196 posts) See mini bio
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*Shrug* If you're incapable of reading the back of a box and seeing "Nudity" than you deserve to be surprised by male genitalia.


Post by Arkthemaniac (5,584 posts) See mini bio

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Actually, just realized something else.

Lost And The Damned is downloadable. To download it, you need to use an account connected to an Email address that lists you as 18 years or older. So, a kid getting it basically requires parent consent anyways, unless they have a BS email set up, in which case . . . well . . . there's mass murder in the game. Don't buy it for your kid. Difficult?


Post by Claude (3,207 posts) See mini bio
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I hope Mass Effect 2 has full frontal nudity... alien style.


Post by RHCPfan24 (6,255 posts) See mini bio
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Claude said:
"I hope Mass Effect 2 has full frontal nudity... alien style."
*disrobes* "What the FUCK is THAT!!!!??!?"


Post by Arkthemaniac (5,584 posts) See mini bio

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RHCPfan24 said:
"Claude said:
"I hope Mass Effect 2 has full frontal nudity... alien style."
*disrobes* "What the FUCK is THAT!!!!??!?""
Wrex: Too big for ya? Wait till you see my other . . . five.

Bystander: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!


Post by RHCPfan24 (6,255 posts) See mini bio
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Arkthemaniac said:
"RHCPfan24 said:
"Claude said:
"I hope Mass Effect 2 has full frontal nudity... alien style."
*disrobes* "What the FUCK is THAT!!!!??!?""
Wrex: Too big for ya? Wait till you see my other . . . five.

Bystander: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!
"
lol. They can really mess around with character designs in the next one. They can put the balls and genitalia wherever they want. The chin? Sure.


Post by dsplayer1010 (1,871 posts) See mini bio
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Arkthemaniac said:
"RHCPfan24 said:
"Claude said:
"I hope Mass Effect 2 has full frontal nudity... alien style."
*disrobes* "What the FUCK is THAT!!!!??!?""
Wrex: Too big for ya? Wait till you see my other . . . five.

Bystander: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!
"
Lol


Post by Arkthemaniac (5,584 posts) See mini bio

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RHCPfan24 said:
"Arkthemaniac said:
"RHCPfan24 said:
"Claude said:
"I hope Mass Effect 2 has full frontal nudity... alien style."
*disrobes* "What the FUCK is THAT!!!!??!?""
Wrex: Too big for ya? Wait till you see my other . . . five.

Bystander: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!
"
lol. They can really mess around with character designs in the next one. They can put the balls and genitalia wherever they want. The chin? Sure."
ROFL!!!!

I can just imagine Wrex in the next game on screen for the first time with a 9-inch schlong hanging from his face, and no one says anything about it, as if it's always been there. I wish Bioware had a sense of humor.





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