@slyspider said:

Please tell me that its day and date PC and console? Otherwise..... I'm going to be sad :'(

They pretty much said it's not going to happen

Great, so this really will be the last thing I ever play on my PS3/360 as new consoles will be out the following month!

I am pretty pissed off about this, they better at least have a PS4/NXbox/PC version lined up for the same time as well with this extra six months.

I still say it has to do with the fact Rockstar and 2K share the same parent company, and that TTWO wanted more than, say, seven weeks between releasing BioShock Infinite and GTAV.

@DJJoeJoe said:

@MildMolasses said:

@LegendaryChopChop said:

@DeF said:

@Temg99 said:

I see this as lining up for more GOTY nominations. Much easier to remember a game from September than May. The shine has not worn off yet for that.

It's not like people would have forgotten a GTA game by then. They really don't need to pull those kinds of stunts and it's not like GOTY awards from random websites pay their bills.

People (Brad), completely forgot about Diablo 3 last year and it has a similar hype and publicity train behind it.

What makes you think he forgot it, rather than he just liked 10 other games more? A five star review doesn't guarantee it end of the year consideration, especially when he had a bunch of 5 star games in his list already. It's about the games that stuck with him as being overly special or memorable, not it's review score. D3 was a great game, but there were plenty of great games last year

I enjoyed Diablo 3 when it came out, then I quickly forgot it even existed a few months after that.

He was raving on it for months and he didn't mention it at ALL during deliberations. It was just strange to me that he was so freely throwing out a 5-star, glowing review, but nobody talked about it during the millions of hours of podcasts that happened late last year. It was just suspect, is all.

Sucks, but I'm always in favor of a more polished game.

Good on them for aiming high, I guess.

GET HYPE!

My Budget Buddy is nodding his approval.

Awesome. I'm willing to wait if it means there'll be extra polish on the game.

I never mind these delays. I'll take a more polished game later over a rushed one any day.

Excited to have a release date set in stone anyway, hype levels are going to be huge as we close in on September.

To be honest I was expecting this. Not a huge problem, at least it should still be out early enough to dive into before releases get too crazy.

@LegendaryChopChop said:

@DJJoeJoe said:

@MildMolasses said:

@LegendaryChopChop said:

@DeF said:

@Temg99 said:

I see this as lining up for more GOTY nominations. Much easier to remember a game from September than May. The shine has not worn off yet for that.

It's not like people would have forgotten a GTA game by then. They really don't need to pull those kinds of stunts and it's not like GOTY awards from random websites pay their bills.

People (Brad), completely forgot about Diablo 3 last year and it has a similar hype and publicity train behind it.

What makes you think he forgot it, rather than he just liked 10 other games more? A five star review doesn't guarantee it end of the year consideration, especially when he had a bunch of 5 star games in his list already. It's about the games that stuck with him as being overly special or memorable, not it's review score. D3 was a great game, but there were plenty of great games last year

I enjoyed Diablo 3 when it came out, then I quickly forgot it even existed a few months after that.

He was raving on it for months and he didn't mention it at ALL during deliberations. It was just strange to me that he was so freely throwing out a 5-star, glowing review, but nobody talked about it during the millions of hours of podcasts that happened late last year. It was just suspect, is all.

I think a lot (not all, a lot) of people who played Diablo III got bored of the grind and while they enjoyed the game immensely for a while, they did not go back for more. I haven't played it personally, but I have a friend who played it like 15 hrs a day for about three months, then just completely quit. Became a grind-fest for him.

@LegendaryChopChop said:

@DJJoeJoe said:

@MildMolasses said:

@LegendaryChopChop said:

@DeF said:

@Temg99 said:

I see this as lining up for more GOTY nominations. Much easier to remember a game from September than May. The shine has not worn off yet for that.

It's not like people would have forgotten a GTA game by then. They really don't need to pull those kinds of stunts and it's not like GOTY awards from random websites pay their bills.

People (Brad), completely forgot about Diablo 3 last year and it has a similar hype and publicity train behind it.

What makes you think he forgot it, rather than he just liked 10 other games more? A five star review doesn't guarantee it end of the year consideration, especially when he had a bunch of 5 star games in his list already. It's about the games that stuck with him as being overly special or memorable, not it's review score. D3 was a great game, but there were plenty of great games last year

I enjoyed Diablo 3 when it came out, then I quickly forgot it even existed a few months after that.

He was raving on it for months and he didn't mention it at ALL during deliberations. It was just strange to me that he was so freely throwing out a 5-star, glowing review, but nobody talked about it during the millions of hours of podcasts that happened late last year. It was just suspect, is all.

They did mention D3 during one category, can't remember which, but it was mentioned on one of the podcasts. That proves that they didn't "forget" about the game, they probably just didn't think that it was good enough.

So this probably makes GTA thr last great AAA title of this generation.

I love how Rockstar markets this title, they keep at it like its a decade ago by not flooding the media with videos and screenshots.

@ottoman673 said:

New consoles can't be coming out this year. Rockstar must know something we don't...

I don't see why they'd release such a high-profile title so close to new hardware. Either Durango/PS4 are going to be Backwards Compatible [doubt it, especially in Sony's case] or the hardware won't be out until Q1 2014. Take-Two and Rockstar bank on these titles for maximum sales, and if anything this seems like it's only going to hurt them.

I'll still get it because I love GTA, regardless. Just seems odd.

Maybe because GTA V will launch with the new Xbox?

I just learned to relax when it comes to Rockstar. They make the best open world game ever, and by proxy (to me) the best game ever, but they just keep teasing and operating in weird ways.

Not to mention that I recently bought a new PC and this will be my first GTA on PC but if consoles = september 2013 then PC = 2014...... I just learned to relax when it comes to Rockstar. Plenty of games to play and things to do, no need for maddening hype.

All Spring releases just breathed a huge sigh of relief.

I bet some folks at Rockstar finally played Sleeping Dogs and were all like, "Oh, shit."

@ptc said:

All Spring releases just breathed a huge sigh of relief.

And anyone planning on going gold around the end of July is clenching their ass.

Still zero news about the PC release huh? Shame. Hope Rockstar gets it crap together on the PC and we don't get another bs delay for a half backed PC port.

@slyspider said:

Please tell me that its day and date PC and console? Otherwise..... I'm going to be sad :'(

Im thinking the next gen version will come out months before the PC release, because it will sell alot of Xbox 720's that impatient PC users will buy

Awesome. Now it's releasing at a time where I will literally have no time/no capability to play it until the following May.

Argh was hoping the

"additional development time."

was for the PC version. Ah well

Its should come out right now instead.

@DrDarkStryfe said:

So this probably makes GTA thr last great AAA title of this generation. I love how Rockstar markets this title, they keep at it like its a decade ago by not flooding the media with videos and screenshots.

You could say the opposite with Bioshock Infinite, I am already sick of the game and haven't played it yet.

Hey, it's right around the time of my friend's birthday! I think I'll celebrate by completely ignoring him.

@crusader8463 said:

Still zero news about the PC release huh? Shame. Hope Rockstar gets it crap together on the PC and we don't get another bs delay for a half backed PC port.

I reckon their will be one down the road, after the current gen and next gen versions of the game have been released, would be a real system seller a 1080p, 60FPS, DX11 version of GTA V on next gen consoles, wouldn't look as impressive along side the PC's that could do it better.

I reckon one of the oh shit moments at Microsoft's E3 conference will be them showing off game play of GTA V on the next Xbox.

@xyzygy said:

@ottoman673: Why would you doubt the next Xbox would be backwards compatible? It's essentially a PC. The PS3 on the other hand has a completely different architecture.

Because the Xbox 360 is using a PowerPC chip, and that is what the PS3's cell processor is essential except with the SPEs. Where the architectures between the 360 and PS3 differ greatly is the RAM allocation, with the PS3 having half dedicated solely to video/graphics. That is why Linux would only see 256 MB when you installed it and why games like Skyrim have so many problems and why games like Uncharted look so good. It would be easier to have the Original Xbox be backward compatible with the new Xbox720 since from reports, the Xbox720 will be using an x86 chip from AMD where as the Original Xbox used an x86 chip, basically a pentium 3.

@radoman said:

Pfft might as well put it out on the next gen consoles then and a day one pc version would be nice too.

Why release it on new consoles that probably won't sell more than a few million within the first month when you can reach over 60 million of PS3/360 owners?

I think Rockstar are stretching their business sense here.

@Bourbon_Warrior said:

@crusader8463 said:

Still zero news about the PC release huh? Shame. Hope Rockstar gets it crap together on the PC and we don't get another bs delay for a half backed PC port.

I reckon their will be one down the road, after the current gen and next gen versions of the game have been released, would be a real system seller a 1080p, 60FPS, DX11 version of GTA V on next gen consoles, wouldn't look as impressive along side the PC's that could do it better.

I reckon one of the oh shit moments at Microsoft's E3 conference will be them showing off game play of GTA V on the next Xbox.

Yeeeeeeeeeeah really doubt that next gen version is coming, it didn't with San Andreas, if they don't want to release it on PC around the same time there's no way they will support the small userbase the next gen consoles will have initially.

and that argument doesn't really make sense because they released the vastly superior version of Max Payne 3 on PC only 2-3 weeks after the console one, so I doubt they care about one version showing up the other.

@mrfluke: hehe... onus

Really? a Major blockbuster game is going to be released in September? Crazyness

@AMyggen said:

@LegendaryChopChop said:

@DJJoeJoe said:

@MildMolasses said:

@LegendaryChopChop said:

@DeF said:

@Temg99 said:

I see this as lining up for more GOTY nominations. Much easier to remember a game from September than May. The shine has not worn off yet for that.

It's not like people would have forgotten a GTA game by then. They really don't need to pull those kinds of stunts and it's not like GOTY awards from random websites pay their bills.

People (Brad), completely forgot about Diablo 3 last year and it has a similar hype and publicity train behind it.

What makes you think he forgot it, rather than he just liked 10 other games more? A five star review doesn't guarantee it end of the year consideration, especially when he had a bunch of 5 star games in his list already. It's about the games that stuck with him as being overly special or memorable, not it's review score. D3 was a great game, but there were plenty of great games last year

I enjoyed Diablo 3 when it came out, then I quickly forgot it even existed a few months after that.

He was raving on it for months and he didn't mention it at ALL during deliberations. It was just strange to me that he was so freely throwing out a 5-star, glowing review, but nobody talked about it during the millions of hours of podcasts that happened late last year. It was just suspect, is all.

They did mention D3 during one category, can't remember which, but it was mentioned on one of the podcasts. That proves that they didn't "forget" about the game, they probably just didn't think that it was good enough.

That's kinda silly that didn't stop Red Dead Redemption (came out in may) and Mass Effect 2 (January) for winning GOTY awards.

@LegendaryChopChop said:

@DJJoeJoe said:

@MildMolasses said:

@LegendaryChopChop said:

@DeF said:

@Temg99 said:

I see this as lining up for more GOTY nominations. Much easier to remember a game from September than May. The shine has not worn off yet for that.

It's not like people would have forgotten a GTA game by then. They really don't need to pull those kinds of stunts and it's not like GOTY awards from random websites pay their bills.

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People (Brad), completely forgot about Diablo 3 last year and it has a similar hype and publicity train behind it.

What makes you think he forgot it, rather than he just liked 10 other games more? A five star review doesn't guarantee it end of the year consideration, especially when he had a bunch of 5 star games in his list already. It's about the games that stuck with him as being overly special or memorable, not it's review score. D3 was a great game, but there were plenty of great games last year

I enjoyed Diablo 3 when it came out, then I quickly forgot it even existed a few months after that.

He was raving on it for months and he didn't mention it at ALL during deliberations. It was just strange to me that he was so freely throwing out a 5-star, glowing review, but nobody talked about it during the millions of hours of podcasts that happened late last year. It was just suspect, is all.

It's worth noting that Brad uses "five-star review" as "A game I recommend without reservation" rather than Jeff's "This is probably going to be one of my favorite games of the year" four-star reviews. I don't mean to say that Brad's reviews are "forgiving," they're just built on a less personal and, also, less steep scale. Again, if Jeff gives a game a four-star review (Black Ops/Black Ops II,) it's liable to show up on his top 10 list. For Brad and Ryan, a 4-star review generally means "this game is totally functional but somehow misses the mark for me," as evidenced by Max Payne 3, Assassin's Creed III, Rage, and Nintendo Land (although I totally goddamned loved Nintendo Land.) That's obviously not always true, as Brad gave Dead Island a 4-star review and loved that game, as with Asura's Wrath, and Rock Band Blitz made Ryan's Top 10 as well.

But that's a very different world from Jeff's scoring, where many of the games he scores 4-stars tend to make his Top 10 lists. This year, Persona 4 Arena, Fez, Pinball Arcade, and Black Ops II all made his list, though it was mostly Fez's technical issues that kept it from receiving a five-star review. The only other four-star reviews he gave were for Mass Effect 3, Super Stardust Delta, Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning, and Lumines Electronic Symphony, which are two Vita games, a game he felt had a lot more potential than delivery, and, well, Mass Effect 3, which might be the game with the most complicated reception in history.

I don't mean this so much as a criticism as a point. It took me a long time to figure out Brad's review rhythm. Now, I think I've got a handle on it. Leading up to Asura's Wrath, I took a 4-star review to be a death sentence, as I really disliked Rage and Dead Island. Once you figure out their review rhythms, it'll start to make sense.

This is a long tangent to get on in this thread. I don't think GTA delayed for GOTY prevalence, or because they were running away from The Last of Us. I figure they just needed more QA time and are taking it rather than shipping an unfinished game.

All the additional development time in the world won't make this game look like a piece of shit on the 360 or PS3. At this point in the cycle why would you NOT put out a PC version to take advantage of all that processing power? Why would you limit yourself to the current gen of consoles when you're making an expansive open world game?

It's just going to be a disappointment.

Rockstar gonna shut this current gen down!

It's fine, there are already way too many games being released this Spring anyway.

All the additional development time in the world won't make this game look like a piece of shit on the 360 or PS3. At this point in the cycle why would you NOT put out a PC version to take advantage of all that processing power? Why would you limit yourself to the current gen of consoles when you're making an expansive open world game?

It's just going to be a disappointment.

Super crazy theory:

Orbis and Durango are released in September, GTA V is a launch title. The extra months are needed to improve the game up to new console standards, that's why no new media was released today!

*takes off tinfoil hat*

This is great news I think, means I don't have to debate between playing The Last of Us or this, not to mention the imminent glut of games from March... so yeah, more times for games. The back end of the year was looking pretty slim anyway.

As long as they spend the extra time making sure it's nothing like GTA4 and a lot like Vice City and San Andreas then were still on track.

@RoyCampbell said:

@MonkfishEsq said:

All the additional development time in the world won't make this game look like a piece of shit on the 360 or PS3. At this point in the cycle why would you NOT put out a PC version to take advantage of all that processing power? Why would you limit yourself to the current gen of consoles when you're making an expansive open world game?

It's just going to be a disappointment.

Hell of a sixth sense.

I wish I had the ability to know how a game will turn out based on a trailer and what hardware it's on

Super crazy theory:

Orbis and Durango are released in September, GTA V is a launch title. The extra months are needed to improve the game up to new console standards, that's why no new media was released today!

*takes off tinfoil hat*

@MonkfishEsq said:

All the additional development time in the world won't make this game look like a piece of shit on the 360 or PS3. At this point in the cycle why would you NOT put out a PC version to take advantage of all that processing power? Why would you limit yourself to the current gen of consoles when you're making an expansive open world game?

It's just going to be a disappointment.

From a commercial stsandpoint why wouldn't you do it. You just release the PC Version after the new consoles are out to stop console owners whineing they got the duff version and also can be used the advertise their port for the new consoles for early adopters how might not even have a PS3/Xbox360 to play it when it comes out as a GOTY version with all the DLC.

Sucks for a PC user like myself thou.

@Little_Socrates: You've been analyzing their reviews a lot :D

I used to care about the specifics but I have now come to the conclusion that I don't anymore (and also probably shouldn't) as my opinions stray very very far from theirs most of the time (specifically like in your example with Nintendo Land). I only take it seriously when they love or like a game and just ignore most of the negative stuff since their reviewer approach is very different from my consumer approach to games (I can't stand "purchase advice" reviews).

Also, oh hey there's another GTA game coming out. :P

This sucks, but I'll look on the bright side of this. This means they will improve it and make it even more awesome!

And don't forget The Last of Us is still coming out in May so it's not all bad news. That game looks like a beast!

@xyzygy: 360 is a PowerPC, based off IBM's tech developed for the CELL processor. So no, it's not a PC.

Has there been any word on a PC release yet?

@nophilip said:

Has there been any word on a PC release yet?

No offical word but has poped up on a couple of shops websites.

Works for me. Got a lot going on cone May/early June so I could do with without GTA V hanging over my head.

Just FYI, it being released near to the speculative date for new hardware isn't really a problem. The install base for 360 and PS3 is still going to be massive at that point. It's not like everyone is instantly going to drop the several hundred dollars on a new console and then sell their current one.

It's an interesting amount of time to delay a game. I wonder if they think 'this needs four more months' or if they think something like 'this needs two-and-a-half more months but we can't release in mid-summer because of x and y....'