Angry Joes review

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#1 Posted by warxsnake (2650 posts) -

I don't know what the policy regarding linking to out of site reviews is but hey check it out. How a quicklook/review should be done 
I'm begining to like his channel a lot. Yes, youtubers ask people to subscribe to their channel all the time like Jeff said, at least in this case he's doing the best he can to cover the game. 

#2 Edited by TaliciaDragonsong (8699 posts) -

I dislike men with moustaches.
 
Edit: Okay the Bunny part saved him for me.
 
Edit 2: I'm a fan, guy knows what he's about and he's enthusiastic, that means a lot!

#3 Posted by falserelic (5436 posts) -

I've been along time subscriber to angry joe. I enjoy watching his vids to me there entertaining. I remember that one time where he got pissed off at Geoff Keighley. Because he was kinda being a dick when he was trying to interview him.

#4 Posted by poisonmonkey (341 posts) -

Watched it this morning - good review, very in depth.

#5 Posted by CptBedlam (4451 posts) -

Yup, Angry Joe is pretty good. He can be a little awkward at times but he knows what he's talking about.

#6 Posted by Liber (648 posts) -

I don't like Angry Joe but this review was really good.

#7 Posted by project343 (2823 posts) -

I've never been able to get beyond his character. I understand--him being angry and loud is the whole point, but I still find it really unnerving. That said, he obviously knows his stuff, and he seems like a completely acceptable person out of character.

Plus, he rocks a fine mustache. I can totally respect that.

#8 Posted by ExplodeMode (852 posts) -

It's funny how much terrible filler gets cut out of an mmo once the monthly fee is gone.

#9 Posted by thedj93 (1237 posts) -

he seems pretty happy in this one

#10 Edited by CornBREDX (5262 posts) -

Ya, Joe is cool. Interesting how you can mention him on these boards now without an insane amount of disdain (which may come at some point still). He even posted on these forums once a long time ago and people treated him like shit for posting one of his videos here which he only did because he had a short piece on Jeff in it (it was for his Kane and Lynch 2 review).  
He does have an account on giant bomb but I don't think he uses it a lot anymore. 
 
@ExplodeMode: Don't let his review fool you, it still has a lot of filler. The game just has a good amount of variety so you can do something else if you're bored. The lack of a real quest system actually brings forward more how much you are actually grinding to level. It's not awful but it's not always fun. There are other ways to level though (WvW if you can get into it for instance) so again variety is this games spice.

#11 Posted by Jams (2960 posts) -

@TaliciaDragonsong said:

I dislike men with moustaches.

WHAT??

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#12 Posted by RenMcKormack (1074 posts) -

Angry Video Game Nerd

Irate Gamer

Angry Joe

I am going to market myself as Accommodating Al the Reasonable Game Review Guy

#13 Posted by bartok (2480 posts) -

Angry Joe was caught shooting up heroin in a bathroom at a local Popeye's Chicken. 

#14 Posted by CptBedlam (4451 posts) -

@bartok said:

Angry Joe was caught shooting up heroin in a bathroom at a local Popeye's Chicken.

wat?

#15 Posted by Grissefar (2842 posts) -

Geoff Keighley deserves better. He doesn't have to put up with shit from a noisy youtube guy who expects VIP treatment when Geoff actually has an award show to organize.

#16 Posted by SmiteOfHand (84 posts) -

His shtick doesn't do much for me but the density of information delivered really shows in comparison to the quick look. Watch his video and then go back to the QL immediately after and the difference is night and day. He has the benefit of editing, sure, but still. I love QL's and find GB hilarious, but this is a perfect example of when they phone in a lazy look at a game and put no effort into understanding it.

#17 Posted by SomeDeliCook (2341 posts) -

@Grissefar said:

Geoff Keighley deserves better. He doesn't have to put up with shit from a noisy youtube guy who expects VIP treatment when Geoff actually has an award show to organize.

I found it funny Joe's the one who asked "WHERES ALL THE AWARDS FOR BEST MMO?" and Geoff asked "Name me some MMO's" and Joe acted like it wasn't his job to name them. Uhm, hello? You're the one who said there should be an award for best MMO, so prove that good ones actually came out. What a stupid thing to say and get pissed about. Some of his other points were good, but this one stuck out the most and being stupid.

Angry Joe's personality in his videos has always annoyed me within just a few seconds. The more laid back approach Giantbomb takes is much better and they do it without a gimmick, even if their quicklooks are less informative.

#18 Posted by NakAttack (1289 posts) -

Can't stand that fucking guy.

#19 Posted by TheHumanDove (2523 posts) -

Why is he so angry?

#20 Posted by BabyChooChoo (4496 posts) -

Meh, I like Angry Joe and although I don't agree with his review (would've given it a lower score), it was pretty good.

The problem I have is with the overwhelming amount of fanaticism going on in the comments. It's fucking frightening in a lot of ways. Ya know, I'm fine with people liking games and whatnot (blah blah blah opinions and all that), but holy shit...

#21 Edited by dcgc (878 posts) -

@Grissefar said:

Geoff Keighley deserves better. He doesn't have to put up with shit from a noisy youtube guy who expects VIP treatment when Geoff actually has an award show to organize.

Geoff Keighley is an asshole and a stuck up. He's probably one of the worst people in the industry (also, GT is a horrible website and there were countless times when we could see that their reviews were pretty much being paid by the publisher (even platform VS videos of multiplatform videogames, where the feed of both screens were from one console only; how fair is that?; it's disgusting)). Angry Joe may not have been great on that video because Geoff knew that Angry Joe was going to burn him and he prepared himself for that, but Angry Joe had and still has a point. That award show is a fucking joke and I don't understand why people watch... oh that's right, it's where the trailers for new games are shown.

EDIT: Also he might still be one of few reviewers that use the full scale and not 7 and above.

#22 Posted by Grissefar (2842 posts) -

@dcgc said:

@Grissefar said:

Geoff Keighley deserves better. He doesn't have to put up with shit from a noisy youtube guy who expects VIP treatment when Geoff actually has an award show to organize.

Geoff Keighley is an asshole and a stuck up. He's probably one of the worst people in the industry (also, GT is a horrible website and there were countless times when we could see that their reviews were pretty much being paid by the publisher (even platform VS videos of multiplatform videogames, where the feed of both screens were from one console only; how fair is that?; it's disgusting)). Angry Joe may not have been great on that video because Geoff knew that Angry Joe was going to burn him and he prepared himself for that, but Angry Joe had and still has a point. That award show is a fucking joke and I don't understand why people watch... oh that's right, it's where the trailers for new games are shown.

EDIT: Also he might still be one of few reviewers that use the full scale and not 7 and above.

Ugh, that's desperate, man. A little pathetic, you know. Ha ! Ha !

#23 Posted by huntad (1939 posts) -

He's fine. No one's perfect and he has his own thing going for him.

#24 Posted by BabyChooChoo (4496 posts) -

@dcgc said:

also, GT is a horrible website and there were countless times when we could see that their reviews were pretty much being paid by the publisher

#25 Edited by dcgc (878 posts) -

@Grissefar said:

@dcgc said:

@Grissefar said:

Geoff Keighley deserves better. He doesn't have to put up with shit from a noisy youtube guy who expects VIP treatment when Geoff actually has an award show to organize.

Geoff Keighley is an asshole and a stuck up. He's probably one of the worst people in the industry (also, GT is a horrible website and there were countless times when we could see that their reviews were pretty much being paid by the publisher (even platform VS videos of multiplatform videogames, where the feed of both screens were from one console only; how fair is that?; it's disgusting)). Angry Joe may not have been great on that video because Geoff knew that Angry Joe was going to burn him and he prepared himself for that, but Angry Joe had and still has a point. That award show is a fucking joke and I don't understand why people watch... oh that's right, it's where the trailers for new games are shown.

EDIT: Also he might still be one of few reviewers that use the full scale and not 7 and above.

Ugh, that's desperate, man. A little pathetic, you know. Ha ! Ha !

I'm just stating facts. Explain your point of view then.

EDIT: There is a lot of proof online backing up my sentences. Go fish.

#26 Posted by CornBREDX (5262 posts) -
Just so you guys know Joe and Geoff already made amends. It's a silly thing to be arguing about now. 
 
@dcgc: He's regurgitating what Jeff said when asked what he thought about it at the time that that happened. Under the pretense of just some random guy on the internet is mad at Geoff Keighley (someone Jeff knows) he said basically word for word what that guy said in his first post. 
 
He'll probably argue you in circles about it, best to ignore.
#27 Posted by wjb (1662 posts) -

@SomeDeliCook said:

@Grissefar said:

Geoff Keighley deserves better. He doesn't have to put up with shit from a noisy youtube guy who expects VIP treatment when Geoff actually has an award show to organize.

I found it funny Joe's the one who asked "WHERES ALL THE AWARDS FOR BEST MMO?" and Geoff asked "Name me some MMO's" and Joe acted like it wasn't his job to name them. Uhm, hello? You're the one who said there should be an award for best MMO, so prove that good ones actually came out. What a stupid thing to say and get pissed about. Some of his other points were good, but this one stuck out the most and being stupid.

Angry Joe's personality in his videos has always annoyed me within just a few seconds. The more laid back approach Giantbomb takes is much better and they do it without a gimmick, even if their quicklooks are less informative.

I think GB briefly commented on the situation in a intern office video somewhere...

Not the biggest fan of Geoff Keighley, but what did Joe expect? You send correspondence a week before (I'm assuming) the VGA's, and you expect a sit-down interview with one of the hardest working people this side of the industry, during one of the busiest weeks of his year? Even if Joe planned ahead, he's got to realize that he's small-time and not a legitimate outlet. Not to be all "you should be honored by his presence", but that's kind of how life is, right? Also, I don't think anyone will be thrilled to be interview by a guy with "Angry" in his name, is known for "ranting" and catering to the lowest common denominator (sorry), and will rip you apart in an immature fashion if things don't go well afterwards.

Why is everyone on YouTube so angry?

#28 Posted by CornBREDX (5262 posts) -
@wjb: No. He was asked to come not the other way around. They knew what kinds of questions he would be asking and why he wanted to go as he made that clear, they told him he would get the interview.
#29 Posted by CptBedlam (4451 posts) -

@dcgc said:

@Grissefar said:

Geoff Keighley deserves better. He doesn't have to put up with shit from a noisy youtube guy who expects VIP treatment when Geoff actually has an award show to organize.

Geoff Keighley is an asshole and a stuck up. He's probably one of the worst people in the industry (also, GT is a horrible website and there were countless times when we could see that their reviews were pretty much being paid by the publisher (even platform VS videos of multiplatform videogames, where the feed of both screens were from one console only; how fair is that?; it's disgusting)). Angry Joe may not have been great on that video because Geoff knew that Angry Joe was going to burn him and he prepared himself for that, but Angry Joe had and still has a point. That award show is a fucking joke and I don't understand why people watch... oh that's right, it's where the trailers for new games are shown.

EDIT: Also he might still be one of few reviewers that use the full scale and not 7 and above.

lol, yeah I'm sure he did that.

#30 Posted by falserelic (5436 posts) -

Now I'm reminded of the Duke Nukem Forever Review he did awhile back.

#31 Edited by jesterroyal (351 posts) -

Hey guys,

I'm not sure if you know this but this thread is actually about angry joe's review of guild wars (which ... is a little youtube spammy and not very in lines with the rules of the forums.) However, The rules also state you aren't allowed to flame or derail topics. Which looks to be going on. So until this thread (potentially) gets locked for youtube spam, I have this to say:

Angry Joe's review is pretty good. I'd like to see where he stands after the fervor dies down but thats almost exactly how I feel about this game. Ill be playing it for a long time and I like the breadth of content he provided in that review even though some of the information was not entirely correct. I think the incorrect nature of his review is from his overly wordy presentation in some cases. Not bad though.

#32 Posted by wjb (1662 posts) -

@CornBREDX said:

@wjb: No. He was asked to come not the other way around. They knew what kinds of questions he would be asking and why he wanted to go as he made that clear, they told him he would get the interview.

Fair enough.

#33 Posted by FritzDude (2263 posts) -

Well, this thread turned out to be about something else fast.

I have followed & watched Joe since 2007 and for me he is a person I can relate to. Usually I can agree with his reviews, and what he says in them are well explained. Even if you agree with him or not, Joe can talk & express opinions very well, and this review is no exception.

#34 Posted by Largo6661 (335 posts) -

His review videos are good but his interviews are bad, he's just really unprofessional like when he interviewed Seth Killian.

#35 Posted by Beforet (2921 posts) -

I like Angry Joe, mostly because he's usually not actually angry. Just energetic. It's fun to watch most of the time, but the VGA video was pretty bad.

#36 Posted by bartok (2480 posts) -
@CptBedlam: I'm sorry I mixed him up with Perturbed Donald the Disturbed Game Reviewer.
#37 Posted by CptBedlam (4451 posts) -

@bartok said:

@CptBedlam: I'm sorry I mixed him up with Perturbed Donald the Disturbed Game Reviewer.

Again... wat?

#38 Posted by Milkman (16781 posts) -

This guy is the worst.

#39 Posted by rynbeed (143 posts) -

I felt like his review of the game was one of the first in have seen that identify what the game is doing well, and praises the game for it.

#40 Edited by ProfessorEss (7362 posts) -

Yeah despite appreciating the effort and enthusiasm Joe puts into his work that whole Keighley thing left me with a bad impression of him. I think he was totally in wrong and I hope after cooling off he realised the the mistakes he made. That being said, I can't condemn a guy for one stupid mistake (I'd left Giant Bomb a long time ago if that was the case) and he still provides some interesting views on games and yeah, his Guild Wars 2 review is pretty good. 
 
 
@dcgc said:

There is a lot of proof online backing up my sentences. Go fish.

You know when your trying to prove a point the onus is generally on you to prove that point right? 
"My client is innocent! Just go search the internet your honor, I swear there's tons of evidence on there".  
 
And to say "Go Fish" after providing no argument but "search the internet" is just... that's... that's hilarious actually. Thumbs up.
#41 Posted by Rohok (554 posts) -

Oh yeah Giant Bomb does one Quick Look all the dumb fan boys don't like and suddenly they don't know how to review or do quick looks.

Give me a break children.

#42 Edited by ProfessorEss (7362 posts) -
@Rohok said:

Oh yeah Giant Bomb does one Quick Look all the dumb fan boys don't like and suddenly they don't know how to review or do quick looks.

Give me a break children.

Perhaps you're blinded by your undying love and loyalty to the staff of Giant Bomb but personally when this site provides grossly inadequate and uninformed coverage of a major release I'm interested in I'm all for the fantastic Giant Bomb community directing me to places with superior coverage of it. 
 
Maybe that's childish but hey, that's just me.
#43 Posted by Dark_Lord_Spam (3298 posts) -

I've only ever seen a couple of videos that Joe's produced, but I feel like he's the first person doing coverage who has been able to put into words how massively fucking enthused I am for nearly every design decision this game makes. Especially after hearing over and over from various outlets how GW2 is just the next stepping stone for MMO fans, it was refreshing to get his opening commentary when likewise I really just never being able to enjoy how god damn boring and collar-yanking prior games in the genre have seemed to me when I tried them.

#44 Edited by connerthekewlkid (1832 posts) -

@ProfessorEss said:

@Rohok said:

Oh yeah Giant Bomb does one Quick Look all the dumb fan boys don't like and suddenly they don't know how to review or do quick looks.

Give me a break children.

Perhaps you're blinded by your undying love and loyalty to the staff of Giant Bomb but personally when this site provides grossly inadequate and uninformed coverage of a major release I'm interested in I'm all for the fantastic Giant Bomb community directing me to places with superior coverage of it. Maybe that's childish but hey, that's just me.

i think its more along the lines of they didnt like the game you like so it must mean they did something wrong

EDIT: you know what i felt the same way as you when the old republic came out and i saw the GB quick look so just forget the first comment

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#45 Posted by Zacagawea (1594 posts) -

@Grissefar said:

@dcgc said:

@Grissefar said:

Geoff Keighley deserves better. He doesn't have to put up with shit from a noisy youtube guy who expects VIP treatment when Geoff actually has an award show to organize.

Geoff Keighley is an asshole and a stuck up. He's probably one of the worst people in the industry (also, GT is a horrible website and there were countless times when we could see that their reviews were pretty much being paid by the publisher (even platform VS videos of multiplatform videogames, where the feed of both screens were from one console only; how fair is that?; it's disgusting)). Angry Joe may not have been great on that video because Geoff knew that Angry Joe was going to burn him and he prepared himself for that, but Angry Joe had and still has a point. That award show is a fucking joke and I don't understand why people watch... oh that's right, it's where the trailers for new games are shown.

EDIT: Also he might still be one of few reviewers that use the full scale and not 7 and above.

Ugh, that's desperate, man. A little pathetic, you know. Ha ! Ha !

Man, you really have got to stop typing haha as two different words and then putting a space between your punctuation. It makes me so angry :(

#46 Edited by eSci (29 posts) -

The review was good, it got the points down though missing some of the positives and the negatives. Like being able to level with your friends even if you are 20 levels or so higher and the fact that the Heart Events (I.e. what replaced traditional quests) feel a hell of a lot more grindy then normal.

Also, the whole Joe and Geoff thing, in my opinion the interview was awful along with the questions. But, Geoff Keighley was dickhead from the start and also helps create the abomination known as the VGAs and for that he is already worse than cancer. So, I am torn.

#47 Posted by TheDudeOfGaming (6078 posts) -

I kind of like him I guess, you can see that he loves games.

#48 Posted by stryker1121 (1439 posts) -

I like Angry Joe. Yeah he's got a shtick but he knows his stuff and is very enthusiastic about the same kinds of games I enjoy.

#49 Posted by Silvergun (297 posts) -

That was a pretty good review. I've been playing the hell out of GW2 and more or less agree with all his points (I dunno about the mounts in WvW thing). Something that did really impress me is that some of his footage came from the endgame areas, so he's obviously put a lot of time into the game before doing the review.

#50 Edited by jakob187 (21670 posts) -

I've always loathed Angry Joe, but I figured I would give this Guild Wars 2 video a try.

I stopped when he said Guild Wars 2 wasn't a grind and laughed. He obviously hasn't hit 80. The dungeon sets, the crafting, and getting legendaries are definitely MMO grinds.

I'm going to now continue the video and hopefully won't find myself laughing again.

*EDIT* Alright, I'm back already. I made it about another minute or two. That video is unbearable. Does it get better?

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