Some technical assistance required.

#1 Posted by RekIvan (18 posts) -

Good day all, I will cut to the chase.

I have been browsing all the different topics in regards to 'Building a P.C' or 'Best P.C to buy' and trawling through the technical info and websites offered by countless helpful people.

However, i have since been informed that due to some work commitments i will now be doing some traveling; up and down the UK and very rarely at home. Which unfortunately means a desktop will be placed on hold until further notice. Which brings me to the Assistance that is required.

After typing a similar search in, I.E 'Gaming Laptop'. It seems the general consensus is quite literally. Do not buy a laptop for the purpose of gaming.

I can generally understand the reasons, and i also support the argument for this. Despite these (no doubt correct analysis') I am still going to bag myself a Laptop, mainly to keep up with you guys and join in the fun through the early stages of GW2. (Though there may be a few other titles i fancy, nothing as heavy, mainly RTS etc)

The minimum specs for GW being:

  • Windows® XP Service Pack 2 or better
  • Intel® Core™ 2 Duo 2.0 GHz, Core i3, AMD Athlon™ 64 X2 or better
  • NVIDIA® GeForce® 7800, ATI Radeon™ X1800, Intel HD 3000 or better (256MB of video RAM and shader model 3.0 or better)
  • 25 GB available HDD space
  • Broadband Internet connection
  • Keyboard and mouse

I have about £650 and rather than pitching the above and being hunted down for my insolence amongst the other forums, i was hoping the Lincoln Force Crew may be able to help a fellow LF Guardian stay in the fight this August! Even if i am playing solo with room service in the middle of nowhere...

The kind of thing im looking at currently.Though as you may of guest. The insides of machines are not my strong point.

Cheers for any help and apologies if you feel its in the wrong forum,

I just know my way around these parts better.

RekIvan. UK

#2 Edited by Rhaknar (5939 posts) -

guild wars 2 runs like ass unfortunatly, at least up to this latest beta weekend. all the talks that the game would be optimized for launch seem to have been... exagerated to say the least. I wouldnt build a PC around it, seems to be a shit engine

im running a i5 2500k with a gtx 580 btw, not the best but certainly no slouch and I can run much more demanding (or so you would think) games on max at 60fps

#3 Edited by UssjTrunks (534 posts) -

I think that laptop should be able to run it fine on lowest settings.

I've been playing the game with a Geforce 520 + i5 2310, and it's been silky smooth (although everything had to be scaled down to the lowest possible setting lol).

Keep an eye out for refurbished gaming laptops as well. Those can be found for cheap sometimes and would be able to run the game at higher settings.

#4 Posted by Dark_Lord_Spam (3397 posts) -

I spent a fair bit of time looking at gaming laptops a while back, and yeah, it can be discouraging. You can probably pick up one of the cheaper, 13" Alienwares for under $1000 (which Google's currency converter tells me is your budget). If they have been keeping those up to date, I'm almost certain it could run GW2.

#5 Edited by selfconfessedcynic (2576 posts) -
#6 Posted by Giefcookie (608 posts) -

@Rhaknar said:

guild wars 2 runs like ass unfortunatly, at least up to this latest beta weekend. all the talks that the game would be optimized for launch seem to have been... exagerated to say the least. I wouldnt build a PC around it, seems to be a shit engine

im running a i5 2500k with a gtx 580 btw, not the best but certainly no slouch and I can run much more demanding (or so you would think) games on max at 60fps

I run a i5 2500k with a 560ti and on the first day of BWE3 I was running 35-40fps at 1080p. After reading the tech forums I picked up Nvidia beta drivers and my fps went up by 15. During the 2nd and 3rd days I was frapsing at 30fps with no problem.

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#7 Posted by Benny (1953 posts) -

@RekIvan: I would say take a look at the laptops on offer at http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/laptop-computers/

They're mostly Clevo laptops which are in my opinion the absolute best for your money desktop replacement laptops.

I have one from there that I paid £900 ish for a year or so ago that still runs pretty much everything on high/ultra and I don't regret it for a second. It's ideal to take to university, a friends house, upstairs and downstairs to hook it up to my TV and play games with an xbox controller. A serious machine for gaming that only begins to suffer from excessive heat when maxing out all settings.

I'd recommend getting the cheapest core i7 processor, a 500GB hard drive and 8gb of ram with one of these http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/notebooks/optimusIII-15/ which would be exactly £671 without an operating system. The price would be more if you don't already have a copy of windows though unfortunately. A PC and monitor at that price isn't going to be too far off in terms of performance. You can see roughly the FPS you will get from this machine's graphics card here: http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GT-650M.71887.0.htmand if you scroll down to the game benchmarks and click the fps counts (red & green numbers) you can see the exact build they used to get those benchmarks, a few of which are the same build as I'm suggesting.

might also be worth getting a cooling stand with fans on which are less than £20.

Hope this helps.

#8 Posted by project343 (2835 posts) -

@Rhaknar said:

guild wars 2 runs like ass unfortunatly, at least up to this latest beta weekend. all the talks that the game would be optimized for launch seem to have been... exagerated to say the least. I wouldnt build a PC around it, seems to be a shit engine

im running a i5 2500k with a gtx 580 btw, not the best but certainly no slouch and I can run much more demanding (or so you would think) games on max at 60fps

BWE2 -> BWE3 optimization transition has been night and day for me. They are working on it and your system config likely hasn't been taken advantage of yet. I went from having to run the game on low-to-mid at 30fps to running the game on max (with 'low' shadows, since shadows always seem to fuck things up for me) with maybe 45 fps.

FYI: AMD Phenom II X6 1090T 3.2GHz + ATI Radeon HD 6770 + 8gigs of RAM

#9 Posted by Beaudacious (930 posts) -

I loath Laptop Gaming, I'd rather make a lan box if this is simply a gaming PC, and new monitors weigh nothing.

Oh gawd, I'd just make a portable lan box with a built in screen, mmm sexy...

#10 Posted by RekIvan (18 posts) -

Thanks very much for the info and help. That website is mighty fine and i will be spending the next week devouring the info till i get myself something suitable.

Also cheers for the info from everyone else. Look forward to seeing you all in full pixelation soon...!

Rek

#11 Edited by Curious_George (146 posts) -

@Rhaknar said:

guild wars 2 runs like ass unfortunatly, at least up to this latest beta weekend. all the talks that the game would be optimized for launch seem to have been... exagerated to say the least. I wouldnt build a PC around it, seems to be a shit engine

im running a i5 2500k with a gtx 580 btw, not the best but certainly no slouch and I can run much more demanding (or so you would think) games on max at 60fps

Yeah, there are definitely some problems still. It seems higher end systems especially are not running things as well as they should. I kept hearing of dudes with GTX 670/680 getting comparatively terrible fps. I'm hoping that's a sign they've either not fully optimized for the high end or there are still some kinks that need to be worked out with high settings that are maybe dragging performance down.

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