Guitar Hero 5
Game » consists of 13 releases. Released Sep 01, 2009
The fifth game in the core Guitar Hero franchise, and the third in the series from Activision and Neversoft. Though the game goes by the Guitar Hero moniker, it features full-band gameplay like its predecessor, Guitar Hero World Tour.
But.....Santana sucks....
" @Elazul: I was talkin more about the scratching and use of the amp in manipulating the distortion to get different sounds aswell as th underarm playing seen in th video for Your Time Has Come "Yeah, that stuff's pretty rad, but you have to agree that it's not exactly conventional guitar proficiency. I think we both have a slightly different definition of "technically skilled". Let's just say that he's an very unusually talented guitarist, and leave it at that.
" @ShalashaskaUK666 said:Haha sure thing m8, no problemo :D" @Elazul: I was talkin more about the scratching and use of the amp in manipulating the distortion to get different sounds aswell as th underarm playing seen in th video for Your Time Has Come "Yeah, that stuff's pretty rad, but you have to agree that it's not exactly conventional guitar proficiency. I think we both have a slightly different definition of "technically skilled". Let's just say that he's an very unusually talented guitarist, and leave it at that. "
@ShalashaskaUK666:
To be honest Shalashaska you really need to take a step back and see what Santana is trying to do. 10 minute guitar solos aren't exactly his cup of tea because 1. He knows he's not technically proficient and 2. He prefers having the Santana band as a full on force then just a guitar show like Yngwie Malmsteen. What I mean by that is that he likes having other members of the band be the star of the stage for a few minutes so he can just get the groove going. That's basically why he's so important to the musician community, especially in the jam community, because he knows how to take a step back and let the band do the talking. I am totally not surprised that the developers put Santana out as a market for GH 5 cause, putting the name of the game aside, it's become a band game thanks to the fierce competition of Rock Band.
@ShalashaskaUK666: Because he's freagin' Santana, haha. A lot of people really love the guitar and they just love watching him go at it. Put it this way. I don't really like to say a certain member feels what I'm about to say, but because I've seen the "Some Kind of Monster" documentary I guess, not know, but guess that Mr. Hammett really did not dig the tunes on St. Anger because the lack of guitar solos. Even so he has to put a show on for the crowd, and even though there really isn't anything spectacular about the Santana solos in this video the crowd absolutely loves the man for just putting a guitar, turning his Boogie combo up to 11, and just solo his heart away. Keep in mind that this is a jam of a recorded song, so 50% of this vid is Santana saying "Dude? Solo. Cause you're awesome." (watch how Santana waits for his turn after the organ solo and watch at 2:04 how he tells the conga player to solo)
Yeah thats pretty sweet, and I think if th new direction theyre taking is for a more band orientated music experience, then Santana is definately a sweet choice for that role, his solos still suck ass but like you say, its just for fun and nothing else, he's not trying to impress anybody, its about that style of music, and sonically it sounds awesome.
" Who cares about someones virtual likeness in the game? Honestly. "Haha it aint his ingame likeness aesthetically, its his style of play, but I cleared up my thoughts in my previous post.
" @systech said:I somehow doubt you were defending me, but yeh I reckon I probably could do anythin Santy's put out, its nothin 2 complicated, he goes for awesome soundin stuff as oppose to technical or skillful prowess, he's not a GUITAR hero, just a good player relative to what is required by himself and his fans." I doubt you can play like Santana. "F U hoe. "
" U wanna know who's good? Joe Satriani, Tom Morello, Kirk Hammett, Yngwie Malmsteen, Olli Tukiainen, Padge, Slash, Corey Beaulieu....pretty much anyone who can play more than what the average primary school kid can play.You're an idiot if your thinking that technical ability = better guitarist. Can you CREATE and compose music like he did? No. Music is about being creative and well... creating music and not being a fucking robot. I've seen 15-17 year olds that can play cleaner, faster and better (more technical) than Kirk Hammett. Does that make them better than him? You know something else? Kirk Hammett has worked with Santana. He is also a fan of him. I'm sure that all the guitarists you have mentioned would agree that Santana is a great guitarist. When you have some musicians like Jeff Beck, Eric Clapton, Steve Lukather, JacoPastorius and more talking about how great he is and working with him, it just makes you look like a dumb ass.Now I invite you to justify why Santana should be in GH5..."
Your kind are the ones that make dumb fucking "music" and make it on MTV.
I rather listen to an orgasmic note than thousands of nonsense notes being thrown around for the hell of it. Even though I love some guitar virtuosos that can actually make music like Buckethead (inspired by Satana as well), Steve Vai, John Petrucci, Yngwie Malmsteen (early stuff is good imo), and Paul Gilbert.
" @TheGamerGeek said:I guess they should just put you in the game, superstar." @systech said:I somehow doubt you were defending me, but yeh I reckon I probably could do anythin Santy's put out, its nothin 2 complicated, he goes for awesome soundin stuff as oppose to technical or skillful prowess, he's not a GUITAR hero, just a good player relative to what is required by himself and his fans." I doubt you can play like Santana. "F U hoe. "And oh yeh..........fuck you."
" @ShalashaskaUK666 said:YOU'RE SUCH AN ASS BITCH." @TheGamerGeek said:I guess they should just put you in the game, superstar. "" @systech said:I somehow doubt you were defending me, but yeh I reckon I probably could do anythin Santy's put out, its nothin 2 complicated, he goes for awesome soundin stuff as oppose to technical or skillful prowess, he's not a GUITAR hero, just a good player relative to what is required by himself and his fans." I doubt you can play like Santana. "F U hoe. "And oh yeh..........fuck you."
Haha I dunno if GamerGeek is tryin 2 insult me or systech, as both times he's quoted then insulted lol! Look guys I blatently have my own opinion on this and I've given in repeatedly, I even resolved the whole thing with innacces14's help a couple posts back. I'm not gona concede and eat my words completely, because to me Santana will never be as good as Slash or Padge or any of my favourites, so if u wanna bite then I'm gona bite back, but dont do the whole 'I'm better coz I know people you aint heard of' routine, coz I know how it ends.
" Haha I dunno if GamerGeek is tryin 2 insult me or systech, as both times he's quoted then insulted lol! Look guys I blatently have my own opinion on this and I've given in repeatedly, I even resolved the whole thing with innacces14's help a couple posts back. I'm not gona concede and eat my words completely, because to me Santana will never be as good as Slash or Padge or any of my favourites, so if u wanna bite then I'm gona bite back, but dont do the whole 'I'm better coz I know people you aint heard of' routine, coz I know how it ends.That's fine if you don't know them. If you don't like Carlos Santana or the band, is okay. It is one thing to say that you don't like them and another to say that they suck or that Carlos suck. It is a possibility that you just are close minded, stupid, and careless/indifferent of what you spew out your mouth.Who th fuck are Steve Lukather Jaco Pastorius anyway??"
Most of these posts don't fix a thing anyway.
@ShalashaskaUK666: I know I should have mentioned this earlier, but dude? You just can't compare Santana to your influences like that. Guitar Hero can mean 3 things to me. 1. They are technically proficient and are the stars of the show (Slash, Yngwie Malmsteen, Alexi Laiho, Zakk Wylde, Randy Rhoads, etc.). 2. They mesh with the band well enough to make the band sound monumental (Tony Iommi, Alex Lifeson, John Petrucci, Tom Morello, Kurt Cobain, etc.), or 3. They have complete control over a band and directs them to add on to the guitar in a desired fashion to make the instrument have that much more of an impact (Steve Vai, Eric Clapton, Joe Satriani, Al Di Meola, Carlos Santana, etc.).
Neither guitarist can overcome anothers catagory, and sorry if it's insulting coming off as me saying "Slash can not touch what Santana has", but when you think about it if Slash did have as much control over the band as Santana did then can you imagine how much better Slash's GnR solos would have sound if he told Axl to shut up and stop singing while he's soloing?
^^ That is a very good point and thankyou for making it reasonably, all guitarists have their own strengths and weaknesses, and Porklord, its called 'Off Topic' for a reason.
" @HandsomeDead said:Never. Why?" I hate guitar nerds. "Are you never happy????? "
" I gotta agree with the OP, Santana is a heap of shit. "Whilst I won't go that far, I don't doubt his talent, just as much as I admit that Mariah Carey can sing. However, like Mariah Carey, Santana just sends me to sleep in utter boredom.
Then again, some others who truly bored me to death on GH:WT as well :
Jimi Hendrix
Lynard Skynard
Ozzy Osbourne
Steely Dan
Ted Nugent - h for the love of SpongeBob, that was just painful
Everyone has their own tastes, so naturally, I expect to be lumped with some music I can't stand. As long as I never have to play a Jeff Buckley song, I will be happy.
" @oldschool: I agree with you about Ted Nugent... that song of his in Guitar Hero WT was absolutely awful. "I grew up in the Ted Nugent era, being a teen in the 70s, but seriously, without the aid of drugs, how can those long solos be good? It was a scourge in the 70s. Even Fleetwood Mac and The Eagles are really testing my patience. 70s music didn't get good for me until punk arrived.
Music is an individual thing though. I have no idea why people get upset about other people's opinions and tastes. I could care less if anyone dislikes what I like.
" @oldschool: Agreed. I couldn't care less if someone dislikes what I like... because at the end of the day; I'm enjoying it. Unless someone tells me that The Beatles suck... then I get angry. "I do admit that I find the current generation being interested in The Beatles surprising. I have an 18 year old friend (female) who just loves them. She has so much merchandise of theirs. I have some original 60s stuff, but then, I am old enough to ^-^ She listens to it more than me.
" @ShalashaskaUK666 said:I agree with this, while I love Tom Morrello,buckethead and don't like Santana I still don't get why people assiociate fast fucking playing to good guitarists." U wanna know who's good? Joe Satriani, Tom Morello, Kirk Hammett, Yngwie Malmsteen, Olli Tukiainen, Padge, Slash, Corey Beaulieu....pretty much anyone who can play more than what the average primary school kid can play.You're an idiot if your thinking that technical ability = better guitarist. Can you CREATE and compose music like he did? No. Music is about being creative and well... creating music and not being a fucking robot. I've seen 15-17 year olds that can play cleaner, faster and better (more technical) than Kirk Hammett. Does that make them better than him? You know something else? Kirk Hammett has worked with Santana. He is also a fan of him. I'm sure that all the guitarists you have mentioned would agree that Santana is a great guitarist. When you have some musicians like Jeff Beck, Eric Clapton, Steve Lukather, Jaco Pastorius and more talking about how great he is and working with him, it just makes you look like a dumb ass.Your kind are the ones that make dumb fucking "music" and make it on MTV.I rather listen to an orgasmic note than thousands of nonsense notes being thrown around for the hell of it. Even though I love some guitar virtuosos that can actually make music like Buckethead (inspired by Satana as well), Steve Vai, John Petrucci, Yngwie Malmsteen (early stuff is good imo), and Paul Gilbert. "Now I invite you to justify why Santana should be in GH5..."
Besides its all a matter of opinion, I don't like santana cause I don't like liststening to his music, but Im not saying his guitar playing sucks
Good cause I hate guitar hero too lol. :D It just doesn't do it for me." Well Hendrix has already been in a GH game b4, so theres not a whole lotta point putting him in again, as 4 Page I would rather they did a full on tribute to Zeppelin in their own game as oppose to just a guitar battle, I think th GH franchise is more suited to the guitarists I mentioned, instead of just saying 'Hendrix FTW!' over and over again.
Page hates GH anyway! http://www.spike.com/blog/jack-white-jimmy/82632
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Edit: I also wanted to say when it comes to making music and soloing in my opinion it's not all about the technique. To me it's about the emotion and the style; originality, having amazing technique of course is also great, but to be honest it's how you use that technique whether developed or not to come up with something that talks to people or you and just simply expresses the way you feel. What I'm really trying to say is that there is more than one way to be good at something, including guitar.
" @ShalashaskaUK666 said:This has to be one of the funniest things I've read on this site in quite a while.As 4 HandsomeDead, I'm proud to be a guitar nerd! "Yeah, I can tell."
I never liked Santana, but then again I haven't heard much of his music. Stuff like "Black Magic Woman" I've always found to be too slow, and he kind of mumbles through it. Maybe it's just me, because I also happen to think Kirk is a good guitarist.
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