I'm worried about the future of Guitar Hero

#1 Posted by calidan777 (853 posts) -

I've been a GH fan for a while now, but after buying GH5 I'm feeling kinda let down.My very first music game was actually RockBand, but after buying GHIII and a GHWT guitar I've been strictly GH.The problem is that I think that GHIII has the best soundtrack of ANY music game (even the DLC is amazing) and Metallica is a close second.But I wasn't really impressed by GHWT and Smash Hits was good, but that's because most of the songs on the disc came from GHIII.Now,GH5 seems to be going even further into RockBand territory with it's weak ass setlist.I liked several of the songs in the game, but several just isn't good enough.Also,I did the much hyped "song import" feature and first it did some of my DLC and then when I did the GHWT "import" I couldn't find hardly any songs that I even recognized as being from GHWT.I'm just not feeling real good about the future of GH at this point,is anyone else feeling this way?

#2 Posted by Khann (2852 posts) -

Worried like your face.
 
Wait...

#3 Edited by Th3_James (2578 posts) -

its shit, don't worry. just move on
 
rockband is far superior

#4 Posted by YetiAntics (1490 posts) -

Guitar Hero 5 is fun, but not the best. I wish the features GH5 had wouldve been implemented 2 (non spin-off) games ago tho. The setlist isnt that strong either. 
#5 Posted by jonnyboy (2920 posts) -

Attention GH/RB Fanboys! Both games use master tracks now. Both games have you matching colours. You are arguing over which music game operating system is best. You are a marketing man's wet dream. Don't be a dick, play both, if you can't afford that pick the songs you like, if you don't like music or have no eyes/ears/fingers let other people play what they want, and leave them the fuck alone.
 
Message ends.

#6 Posted by calidan777 (853 posts) -
@PantyshotMQN said:
" Guitar Hero 5 is fun, but not the best. I wish the features GH5 had wouldve been implemented 2 (non spin-off) games ago tho. The setlist isnt that strong either.  "
I agree, the features in GH5 are great it's just the setlist that I don't like.Well I'm not too fond of the new graphics either, but that might just be me.
#7 Posted by Novyx (479 posts) -
@jonnyboy:
Harmonix made GH and RB both. Neversoft and Activision drove GH into the ground. That's the argument.
#8 Posted by calidan777 (853 posts) -
@jonnyboy said:
" Attention GH/RB Fanboys! Both games use master tracks now. Both games have you matching colours. You are arguing over which music game operating system is best. You are a marketing man's wet dream. Don't be a dick, play both, if you can't afford that pick the songs you like, if you don't like music or have no eyes/ears/fingers let other people play what they want, and leave them the fuck alone.  Message ends. "
Wtf are you talking about?No one is arguing about which is game is better.I actually own both RB games and ALL the GH games w/instruments for both.Next time don't be a dousche and read the fucking OP before you say some stupid shit.
 
Message ends.
#9 Posted by jonnyboy (2920 posts) -
@calidan777: Hey I read it, and I play the shit out of those games too. But lets face it, that's where this thread is gonna go.
#10 Posted by emkeighcameron (1876 posts) -

I'm still holding out for GH: Twisted Sister before I commit to anything.

#11 Posted by jonnyboy (2920 posts) -
@emkeighcameron said:
" I'm still holding out for GH: Twisted Sister before I commit to anything. "
Hell yeah, throw some Scorpions, Styx and Poison on that disc and I'm in!
#12 Posted by LiquidPrince (15952 posts) -

I like Guitar Hero's instruments better.

#13 Posted by ninjakiller (3405 posts) -

"Kurt Cobain bastardized," should be the name of this game.

#14 Posted by punkxblaze (2985 posts) -

The answer here is obvious: Play Frets on Fire.

#15 Posted by calidan777 (853 posts) -
@LiquidPrince said:
" I like Guitar Hero's instruments better. "
Agreed.
#16 Posted by TheGreatGuero (9130 posts) -

Dude, I just got my copy of Guitar Hero 5 today, and I must say that while I am enjoying the game, the soundtrack so far has been disappointing. Some of the songs I was looking forward to don't translate too well to the gameplay. Like Sympathy for the Devil is kind of boring to play on guitar. Personally I'm really concerned about the soundtrack issues as well. I'd like to see a way for them to bring last gen's Guitar Hero songs to today's Guitar Hero games. And dude, please, for cheap. $60 for Guitar Hero: Smash Hits is pretty janky. I can understand it's a lot of work to bring in these songs and update them, but for $60, I feel like I should be getting every GH song from every old game, not just certain ones. Maybe they could offer them as DLC, but that would get costly. Really, I'd just love to play some more Black Magic Woman. I freaking love that song. There were plenty of other great ones too, though, that I would love to replay with a full band.
 
Also, including Bob Dylan's version of All Along the Watchtower is a slap in the face. I think Hendrix's cover All Along the Watchtower has probably been the most requested song to be included ever since Guitar Hero got big. It's like the ultimate guitar song. Instead, we get this easy to play and ear-pitching-harmonica-heavy original? Not cool, Activision. I think World Tour looks like it had a better soundtrack than RB2, but that's just from looking on paper, as I've never played World Tour. Still, unless they find a solution fast, this problem may get much worse. So many of the classic guitar songs have been done already, and dude... all but like 2 songs from the first two Guitar Hero games were covers. I wouldn't mind if they brought them back with the real versions of the songs. I don't think it would be cheap or lazy to include them in a new game's soundtrack.

#17 Posted by Asurastrike (2166 posts) -

GH seems to be going the way of DDR.

#18 Posted by JJOR64 (18995 posts) -
@calidan777 said:
" @LiquidPrince said:
" I like Guitar Hero's instruments better. "
Agreed. "
I agree with you two as well.  The Rock Band guitar sucks monkey fuck.
#19 Posted by monkmaster (25 posts) -

Given the setlist for GH5, I think I can safely say I'm done music/rhythm games by the time GH6 hits.

#20 Posted by zkilla (139 posts) -

Too many godamn gh spin off games thay shoul just take a year off and focus on a main one
#21 Posted by TheMustacheHero (6655 posts) -
@Khann said:
" Worried like your face.  Wait... "
Seriously? That's the best you can come up with?
#22 Edited by damswedon (3191 posts) -

world tour and 5 have both lost what it means to be Guitar Hero.
Rock Band can have a range of music styles and allot more pop songs because it's about the band experience (also the DLC helps) but it doesn't sell it's self on on the premise of being a Guitar Hero.

#23 Edited by SJSchmidt93 (4895 posts) -

GH2 for life. 
 
I still can't believe people are buying these games on a consistent basis. It's ridiculous.

#24 Posted by Akeldama (4248 posts) -

i cant wait for this music game fad to die out. 

#25 Posted by Rowr (5667 posts) -

Dont worry about Blank, let me worry about Blank. 
 

 

#26 Posted by Gamer_152 (14078 posts) -

I was getting very worried about Guitar Hero franchise a while ago. The general consensus is that the quality took a pretty serious drop when ownership was handed from Harmonix to Activision and then when I saw the spin-off games they were coming out with like Guitar Hero: Metallica and Guitar Hero: Aerosmith I started to think the series might be going under. Currently I am a much bigger Rock Band player than Guitar Hero player but with the kind of reviews Guitar Hero 5 has been getting lately I'm surprised Guitar Hero is doing as well as it is. If they announced a Guitar Hero 6 (which they most likely will) I'll be somewhat sceptical but judging by what they're currently putting out Activision are doing pretty good for themselves.

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#27 Posted by CowMuffins (1760 posts) -

You know a game sucks, when you get another game with it free.

#28 Posted by BranDong (238 posts) -

The setlist is fucking garbage.. weak ass mother fucking bull shit.  I'm very dissapointed in this GH5.. with the exception of Sweating Bullets, Looks that Kill.... the rest of the tracks are pretty shitty.  If guitar hero continues down this road they are asking for trouble.  I will agree GH3 has the best setlist of all of these games.  GH2 is a close second or maybe tied with 3 IMO.  Also EVERY guitar hero game should have a HARD ass song equivalent at the very least to JORDAN ... and at the most or beyond Devil Went Down To Georgia and TTFATF

#29 Posted by deusdigit (572 posts) -

@monkmaster:
What if guitar hero 6 steps into the realm of Real guitars? i always wondered that. harmonix is working on rockband 3 right now. You never know, it could be the next step in actually using instruments. Playing a real guitar or getting trained from the game. Then all of the arguments could stop, and we could all live in rhythm gaming nirvana....

#30 Posted by deusdigit (572 posts) -
@CowMuffins: 
 
Not always, buying the orange box felt like a real value. but thats just my opinion.
#31 Posted by Spacetrucking (943 posts) -

The GB staff has been saying this for a while now that the rhythm game genre has hit a plateau in terms of what you can do with them. The only thing that keeps you coming back for more are the songs and maybe slick presentation (Beatles for example). I just hope they stop making me buy a new retail box every year for just new songs. 
 
However, Rockband network sounds like a good way to go forward where anyone can publish their songs on RBN. It could be a major coup for all those underground musicians who make some awesome stuff but never get the backing to do a proper bigscale album. I won't be surprised if some of their songs fit a Rockband game format better than some of the more classic rock songs out there. Besides there aren't that many of those left anyway, between RB and GH they have covered nearly every iconic guitar riff.

#32 Posted by Everyones_A_Critic (6299 posts) -

I, like yourself, thought GH3 was one of the best music games ever. The only entry in the franchise that I've truly hated is World Tour, the way they force you to play all of the shitty songs, the muddy graphical textures, the flimsy online, the list goes on and on with that game. I think GH5 is Neversoft's attempt at bringing back fans that were initially dissastisfied with GHWT, and the Van Halen offer only further supports this theory. I thought this game was going to be absolute shit, but I was wrong, it's great. The only problem I've had with it is the matchmaking, esecially band vs band mode. I've searched for a match for around three hours total (on and off searching) and have yet to be put into a match. Other than that it's a collossal improvement over World Tour. I hope they learned with WT that they need to put out DLC consistently, and put some more widely known bands in.

#33 Posted by Djstyles92 (952 posts) -

guitar hero 1 and 2 were amazing...but then harmonix left and activison took over, and they have ruined the series. Fucking activision

#34 Posted by TimeWaffle (946 posts) -

i was really big into GH when 2 and 3 were out but i stopped caring once GHWT came out   and it's seems like it's been all done hill from there

#35 Posted by clubsandwich (3795 posts) -

Rock Band is the best option for rythm games, everything is nicely integrated, and there's a ton of epiic great songs, guitar hero became fail after guitar hero 3.

#36 Posted by TooWalrus (13206 posts) -

Notes come flying at you and you hit colored buttons. They're the same game. Play whichever game has more songs that you like.

#37 Posted by mandeponium (275 posts) -

I miss the magic of Guitar Hero 2 and the intense difficulty of Guitar Hero 3. 
#38 Posted by wolf_blitzer85 (5256 posts) -
@SJSchmidt93:  Dude still the best game in the series. Never have a problem playing any song in that game. That changed when GH3 came out and well...it just wasn't the same anymore. Damn you activision!
#39 Posted by empfeix (774 posts) -

You guys are right, the new guitar hero games are not the same as the old ones, they have different track lists.  I am glad we have figured this out.

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