Finally someone else gets it.

#1 Posted by trophyhunter (5800 posts) -

And it comes from kotaku of all places.
 http://kotaku.com/5599885/all-you-need-to-know-about-warriors-of-rocks-quest-mode
 
"I'm getting a little tired of music games at this point, but if I had to choose between Rock Band 3's more realistic approach to playing and Guitar Hero: Warriors of Rock's Quest Mode, I'd probably go with the latter. The past couple of generations have produced games with no real goals other than to play through all the songs and get high scores. I wouldn't mind having an actual game to play."
 
Thank you Mike Fahey, finally I'm not the only one gets the point of quest mode.

#2 Posted by AlmostSwedish (555 posts) -

That's great. Now you're not alone anymore = )
 
Seriously though, I'm kind of tired of pressing colored buttons and both series have lost their charm to me. The last music game I bought was the first Rock Band. I will pick up RB3, if only because I'm interested in the guitar part

#3 Posted by trophyhunter (5800 posts) -
@AlmostSwedish said:
" That's great. Now you're not alone anymore = )  Seriously though, I'm kind of tired of pressing colored buttons and both series have lost their charm to me. The last music game I bought was the first Rock Band. I will pick up RB3, if only because I'm interested in the guitar part "
Sorry, you can't have fun anymore .
I don't know what to tell you, I still think music games are fun as hell and I'm buy both this one and RB3.
#4 Edited by GunstarRed (5214 posts) -

"The beast is a lumbering , mechanical souless creature, essentially hes the enemy of Rock n Roll" It's funny how the director of the game gets it spot on. 
 
Ughh if the structure is anything like the last two it'll be 7 song sets with 5 of them you dont give a shit about one thats ok and one you "kinda like"

#5 Posted by trophyhunter (5800 posts) -
@marioncobretti said:
" "The beast is a lumbering , mechanical souless creature, essentially hes the enemy of Rock n Roll" It's funny how the director of the game gets it spot on.  Ughh if the structure is anything like the last two it'll be 7 song sets with 5 of them you dont give a shit about one thats ok and one you "kinda like" "
well most of the setlist is already out and it's pretty good.
#6 Edited by JJWeatherman (14558 posts) -

I feel bad for the teams that are forced to work on Guitar Hero. Activision's a monster. 
 
Let it die Activision, let it die.

#7 Posted by Cincaid (2956 posts) -
@trophyhunter:
Glad you can still enjoy the newer games. For me it ended with RB2, I honestly doubt they can find enough good music for either franchise to keep me interested at least. Still fun to play the old ones with some friends and beer though!
#8 Posted by trophyhunter (5800 posts) -
@JJWeatherman said:
" I feel bad for the teams that are forced to work on Guitar Hero. Activision's a monster.  Let it die Activision, let it die. "
ooooh you don't like Activision? What a strange and new idea, tell me did you come up with it on your own?
#9 Posted by JJWeatherman (14558 posts) -
@trophyhunter said:
" @JJWeatherman said:
" I feel bad for the teams that are forced to work on Guitar Hero. Activision's a monster.  Let it die Activision, let it die. "
ooooh you don't like Activision? What a strange and new idea, tell me did you come up with it on your own? "
I'm sure I wasn't the first person to hate Activision, so... no? 
 
Are you defending them?
#10 Edited by AlmostSwedish (555 posts) -
@trophyhunter said:

" @AlmostSwedish said:

" That's great. Now you're not alone anymore = )  Seriously though, I'm kind of tired of pressing colored buttons and both series have lost their charm to me. The last music game I bought was the first Rock Band. I will pick up RB3, if only because I'm interested in the guitar part "
Sorry, you can't have fun anymore . I don't know what to tell you, I still think music games are fun as hell and I'm buy both this one and RB3. "
I dunno, I guess I enjoyed the high score aspect of the two first Guitar Heroes, but then there were so many new games with so many songs. I still have fun when I play the games, I just feel that it's an experience I've had already, and I want to spend my time discovering new things instead of the familiar.
#11 Edited by trophyhunter (5800 posts) -
@CrazyChris said:

" @trophyhunter: Glad you can still enjoy the newer games. For me it ended with RB2, I honestly doubt they can find enough good music for either franchise to keep me interested at least. Still fun to play the old ones with some friends and beer though! "

Well music is a moot point at this point, that's what I'm saying.
with the quest mode there's story, cut-scenes, crazy venues, awesome looking performances. 
Its a lot more than "hey play these few dozen songs, and that's it"
#12 Edited by trophyhunter (5800 posts) -
@JJWeatherman said:

" @trophyhunter said:

" @JJWeatherman said:
" I feel bad for the teams that are forced to work on Guitar Hero. Activision's a monster.  Let it die Activision, let it die. "
ooooh you don't like Activision? What a strange and new idea, tell me did you come up with it on your own? "
I'm sure I wasn't the first person to hate Activision, so... no?  Are you defending them? "
Yeah, I don't hate thing just because the are popular to hate.
This game and call of duty: black ops both look awesome.
You can go be "cool" I'll be over here actually having fun. 
 
Also  I'm buying rockband 3 also, so I actually have the ability to like two things at once. Is that not amazing?
#13 Posted by jelekeloy (456 posts) -
@trophyhunter: 
I don't think that he hates Activision's games so much as he hates their business model.  They seek out games that they can make very often (why they dumped Brutal Legend), and pump out products that are very similar to the previous year's version.  Look at how many "Hero" games were out last year.  Sure it's capitalism, but it's very frustrating to consumers like me that they aren't focusing on making great games, but great profits.  Then again, this new guitar hero seems to be making an attempt to break from tradition.  We'll see when it ships.
#14 Posted by JJWeatherman (14558 posts) -

I and every other person that shares distaste for Activision have very good reasons for it. The main one being their business model. It's absolute shit the way are choosing to run their company. Discouraging new IPs and innovation within current IPs is garbage. Sure, some of their games can be good (not GH though), but why would you want to support a company like that? It probably helps that I'm sick of playing shooters and didn't even buy MW2. If you want to believe I find Activision off-putting because I want to be cool though, then whatever, more power to ya.
 
You can cut out the sarcasm by the way.

#15 Posted by BraveToaster (12589 posts) -

So.... that makes it million bucks, right?

#16 Posted by Gellrock (381 posts) -

Activision has hammered game franchises into the ground, no doubt about it. But on topic, the track listings are what do it for me, and i prefer the Rockband track listings a lot more. It's not just crazy riffs and insane solos, it gives a good variety and can get you into other genres of music. Tears for Fears is one of my all time favourite bands and finally they will be represented in RB3, hopefully the song is head over heels, anything but shout please! Plus not to mention i wanna try the keytar so bad!

#17 Posted by trophyhunter (5800 posts) -
@Axxol said:
" So.... that makes it million bucks, right? "
Well my meme does not make much sense in this situation, but sure?
#18 Posted by Linkin10362 (602 posts) -

Eh, I like both Rock Band and Guitar Hero, but setlists are what sell me on the games. I really don't care for a story and so far, RB3 has a better setlist.

#19 Posted by Atomasist (2818 posts) -

I don't play music games for a story.

#20 Posted by trophyhunter (5800 posts) -
@Atomasist said:
" I don't play music games for a story. "
well I'm saying that's whats wrong with everyone.
#21 Posted by trophyhunter (5800 posts) -
@Linkin10362 said:
" Eh, I like both Rock Band and Guitar Hero, but setlists are what sell me on the games. I really don't care for a story and so far, RB3 has a better setlist. "
I am super excited for rockband 3 but I don't care what the setlist is, because I already have 200 DLC songs I like.
#22 Posted by ch13696 (4582 posts) -

Why don't they take the guitars add a gyroscope in it and do a game like Gitaroo Man. I wouldn't know how to go about it, but I know that would be a damn good idea. Also, take the drums and do something like Donkey Kong Jungle Beat. I'm talking about the first one. Not the second one with all those crap ass cover songs.

#23 Posted by Linkin10362 (602 posts) -
@trophyhunter: 
Yeah, I guess DLC songs would be a good thing to carry over to all the games, but I honestly don't care for most of the songs that they release on the marketplace.
#24 Posted by Atomasist (2818 posts) -
@trophyhunter said:
" @Atomasist said:
" I don't play music games for a story. "
well I'm saying that's whats wrong with everyone. "
People play music games because they like to play music. If people are going to a music games for a deep and complex story, than there going to the wrong place.
#25 Posted by Red (5995 posts) -

I haven't been able to enjoy a Guitar Hero game since Rock Band came out. I just vastly prefer the HUD and style. 
Quest mode does absolutely nothing for me. The point of Rock Band and Guitar Hero is to simulate being a rock star. Some of the best times I had playing Rock Band were making ridiculous bands and dressing up characters in hideous outfits. Also, as someone who is kinda-interested in learning how to play music, Pro Mode in RB3 seems really interesting, as well as the further emphasis on a band. In that video, they talked about having songs more fit for guitar, which--as someone who is primarily shafted to drumming--disinterests me even further. 
 
I will say, however, that the idea of abilities is kind of interesting, although I'd prefer that in a perk format, and not in a character one.

#26 Posted by trophyhunter (5800 posts) -
@Atomasist said:
" @trophyhunter said:
" @Atomasist said:
" I don't play music games for a story. "
well I'm saying that's whats wrong with everyone. "
People play music games because they like to play music. If people are going to a music games for a deep and complex story, than there going to the wrong place. "
Yeah but this is both, maybe not a deep story but it's something more than just playing music.
That's like saying "I play shooting games for the shooting, get this story out of here." 
Do you see how crazy that sounds?
#27 Posted by trophyhunter (5800 posts) -
@Linkin10362 said:
" @trophyhunter:  Yeah, I guess DLC songs would be a good thing to carry over to all the games, but I honestly don't care for most of the songs that they release on the marketplace. "
Really? you don't care for most of the 2000 songs they put out for rockband?
#28 Posted by Linkin10362 (602 posts) -
@trophyhunter said:
" @Linkin10362 said:
" @trophyhunter:  Yeah, I guess DLC songs would be a good thing to carry over to all the games, but I honestly don't care for most of the songs that they release on the marketplace. "
Really? you don't care for most of the 2000 songs they put out for rockband? "
Yes, I'm not that type of person that likes many, many genres of music. I have maybe 4-5 favs and stick with them. I have found a small amount of songs on the marketplace that are in my style. That's all.
#29 Posted by JonathanMoore (1858 posts) -

... I enjoyed DJ Hero if that counts...

#30 Posted by aurahack (2273 posts) -
@JonathanMoore said:
" ... I enjoyed DJ Hero if that counts... "
Somehow, I feel like Jeff, you and me would be the only ones that did. No matter how hard I try to explain to folks why I love DJ Hero 2, I'm met with laughter. :(
#31 Posted by Atomasist (2818 posts) -
@trophyhunter said:
" @Atomasist said:
" @trophyhunter said:
" @Atomasist said:
" I don't play music games for a story. "
well I'm saying that's whats wrong with everyone. "
People play music games because they like to play music. If people are going to a music games for a deep and complex story, than there going to the wrong place. "
Yeah but this is both, maybe not a deep story but it's something more than just playing music. That's like saying "I play shooting games for the shooting, get this story out of here."  Do you see how crazy that sounds? "
I completely see where your coming from, but the majority of the population don't care about story in music games. Think about DDR, while it may of had a story mode in some home versions, you play it for the songs. Also for the shooting games it doesn't sound so crazy when you think about multiplayer.
#32 Posted by trophyhunter (5800 posts) -
@Red said:
" I haven't been able to enjoy a Guitar Hero game since Rock Band came out. I just vastly prefer the HUD and style. Quest mode does absolutely nothing for me. The point of Rock Band and Guitar Hero is to simulate being a rock star. Some of the best times I had playing Rock Band were making ridiculous bands and dressing up characters in hideous outfits. Also, as someone who is kinda-interested in learning how to play music, Pro Mode in RB3 seems really interesting, as well as the further emphasis on a band. In that video, they talked about having songs more fit for guitar, which--as someone who is primarily shafted to drumming--disinterests me even further.  I will say, however, that the idea of abilities is kind of interesting, although I'd prefer that in a perk format, and not in a character one. "
Since RB1 I have stopped playing music games to simulate being a rock star or to just play the music. 
I now play for the presentation and to listen to music.  I get endless enjoyment out of handcrafting an entire band and seeing them preform my favorite songs. I've gotten so good at playing music games over the past 6 years, that actually playing the actual game is not the point of it anyone. Like I really love wrestling games, but I spend far more time in the create modes then I ever do actually playing the actual game part. I guess I'm just crazy that way.
#33 Posted by trophyhunter (5800 posts) -
@Linkin10362 said:
" @trophyhunter said:
" @Linkin10362 said:
" @trophyhunter:  Yeah, I guess DLC songs would be a good thing to carry over to all the games, but I honestly don't care for most of the songs that they release on the marketplace. "
Really? you don't care for most of the 2000 songs they put out for rockband? "
Yes, I'm not that type of person that likes many, many genres of music. I have maybe 4-5 favs and stick with them. I have found a small amount of songs on the marketplace that are in my style. That's all. "
What is your style, by the way?
#34 Posted by Emilio (3380 posts) -

I have yet to buy a single RockBand/GuitarHero game. 
 
The closest I ever came to it was with Beatles Rock Band for the Wii... But then I kinda saw past it as being what it is. 
 
Which is just another rhythm game with a Beatles License to make some extra money off fans of their music.

#35 Posted by MetalGearSunny (6993 posts) -
@trophyhunter said:
" Its a lot more than "hey play these few dozen songs, and that's it" "
Have you not seen all of the billions of Guitar Hero games that have been released over the years? Those were exactly that. Rock Band made it fun by adding modes you'd actually want in a music game.
#36 Posted by trophyhunter (5800 posts) -
@Atomasist said:
" @trophyhunter said:
" @Atomasist said:
" @trophyhunter said:
" @Atomasist said:
" I don't play music games for a story. "
well I'm saying that's whats wrong with everyone. "
People play music games because they like to play music. If people are going to a music games for a deep and complex story, than there going to the wrong place. "
Yeah but this is both, maybe not a deep story but it's something more than just playing music. That's like saying "I play shooting games for the shooting, get this story out of here."  Do you see how crazy that sounds? "
I completely see where your coming from, but the majority of the population don't care about story in music games. Think about DDR, while it may of had a story mode in some home versions, you play it for the songs. Also for the shooting games it doesn't sound so crazy when you think about multiplayer. "
Yes, I suppose but I would like people to care that's all really . 
#37 Posted by Linkin10362 (602 posts) -
@trophyhunter said:
" @Linkin10362 said:
" @trophyhunter said:
" @Linkin10362 said:
" @trophyhunter:  Yeah, I guess DLC songs would be a good thing to carry over to all the games, but I honestly don't care for most of the songs that they release on the marketplace. "
Really? you don't care for most of the 2000 songs they put out for rockband? "
Yes, I'm not that type of person that likes many, many genres of music. I have maybe 4-5 favs and stick with them. I have found a small amount of songs on the marketplace that are in my style. That's all. "
What is your style, by the way? "
Most of the styles I listen to fall under Alternative or Rock (Don't feel like listing all the genres like Emo, Hard Rock, Soft Rock, Metal, Punk Rock, or anything like that), but I also listen to some 80s music and Rap.
#38 Posted by trophyhunter (5800 posts) -
@Metal_Gear_Sunny said:
" @trophyhunter said:
" Its a lot more than "hey play these few dozen songs, and that's it" "
Have you not seen all of the billions of Guitar Hero games that have been released over the years? Those were exactly that. Rock Band made it fun by adding modes you'd actually want in a music game. "
Well I'm not talking about other guitarhero games. I'm talking about this one with the quest mode.
I'm also not saying anything bad about rockband, I really want RB3. I have actually wanted something like quest mode since GH3.
#39 Posted by Bennyishere (1685 posts) -

I will get the game when it becomes cheap. The setlist isn't that appealing to me, but with 160 songs in GH5 I really want to merge them with Warriors of Rock for a bigger list. Buying a bunch of instruments for RB3 is intimidating, but I really want to try out the piano.

#40 Posted by MetalGearSunny (6993 posts) -
@trophyhunter: Fair enough, bro.
#41 Posted by trophyhunter (5800 posts) -
@Bennyishere said:
" I will get the game when it becomes cheap. The setlist isn't that appealing to me, but with 160 songs in GH5 I really want to merge them with Warriors of Rock for a bigger list. Buying a bunch of instruments for RB3 is intimidating, but I really want to try out the piano. "
well you can just get the piano bundle and use your GH gutar with rockband 3
#42 Edited by Whisperkill (2969 posts) -
@trophyhunter said:

" @JJWeatherman said:

" @trophyhunter said:

" @JJWeatherman said:

" I feel bad for the teams that are forced to work on Guitar Hero. Activision's a monster.  Let it die Activision, let it die. "
ooooh you don't like Activision? What a strange and new idea, tell me did you come up with it on your own? "
I'm sure I wasn't the first person to hate Activision, so... no?  Are you defending them? "
Yeah, I don't hate thing just because the are popular to hate. This game and call of duty: black ops both look awesome. You can go be "cool" I'll be over here actually having fun.   Also  I'm buying rockband 3 also, so I actually have the ability to like two things at once. Is that not amazing? "
Shut the fuck up... 
 
Honestly how old are you? Yeah it's totally a fad to hate on Activision. There is NO rational reason to hate that bastard of a company...
#43 Posted by Linkin10362 (602 posts) -

Oh god, not THIS again....
 
Just shut up about Activision and get back on whatever the actual topic was about.

#44 Posted by LordXavierBritish (6320 posts) -
@Whisperkill said:
" @trophyhunter said:

" @JJWeatherman said:

" @trophyhunter said:

" @JJWeatherman said:

" I feel bad for the teams that are forced to work on Guitar Hero. Activision's a monster.  Let it die Activision, let it die. "
ooooh you don't like Activision? What a strange and new idea, tell me did you come up with it on your own? "
I'm sure I wasn't the first person to hate Activision, so... no?  Are you defending them? "
Yeah, I don't hate thing just because the are popular to hate. This game and call of duty: black ops both look awesome. You can go be "cool" I'll be over here actually having fun.   Also  I'm buying rockband 3 also, so I actually have the ability to like two things at once. Is that not amazing? "
Shut the fuck up... 
 
Honestly how old are you? Yeah it's totally a fad to hate on Activision. There is NO rational reason to hate that bastard of a company... "
I find it hilariously pathetic that some people devote so much energy to hating on Activision while other non-video game related companies are manipulating a majority of the American media and raping third world countries. 
 
On the topic of GH, no it is going to suck. 
 
They always suck. 
 
The cutscenes always suck. 
 
The stories always suck. 
 
it is going to suck.
#45 Posted by HandsomeDead (11863 posts) -

If they can make a story that's good, then great, but considering what the game is, I can't ever see it working. Anything else Guitar Hero has done in way of story has been terrible.

#46 Posted by Tebbit (4465 posts) -

I think that if Guitar Hero was ever going to differentiate itself from Rock Band, this was the only way to do it well. Just take the over-the-top-ness that the series has always had, and crank it up to 11. It's smart for the franchise.

#47 Edited by trophyhunter (5800 posts) -
@Tebbit said:

" I think that if Guitar Hero was ever going to differentiate itself from Rock Band, this was the only way to do it well. Just take the over-the-top-ness that the series has always had, and crank it up to 11. It's smart for the franchise. "

Yes, thank you. That's what I am saying. 
It's like the difference between GTA and saint's row.   
SR is super over the top ridiculous game and GTA is the realistic serious game.
#48 Posted by Vonocourt (2133 posts) -

I never much cared for the metal aesthetic that Guitar Hero started to get after the second game, and this game seems to be furthuring it to an extreme. The quest mode looks like a poor man's Brütal Legend.

#49 Posted by trophyhunter (5800 posts) -
@Vonocourt said:
" I never much cared for the metal aesthetic that Guitar Hero started to get after the second game, and this game seems to be furthuring it to an extreme. The quest mode looks like a poor man's Brütal Legend. "
I think it looks better than brutal legend. 
BL was the most disappointing bad game I've ever played.

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