No episode 3 @ e3

#1 Posted by CRiTE (38 posts) -

Good lord man. Does it bother anyone else that valve can put out 2 left 4 dead games in between episode 2 and 3.

I mean give us a screen shot or somethin. A simple yes thats still a game will do at this point right. just wondering if

anyone else notice/is bothered by it.

#2 Posted by Pibo47 (3166 posts) -

It really bothered me that there was a lacking of ep.3. Especially since the Half-life series is my all time favorite.

#3 Posted by AhmadMetallic (18955 posts) -

yes we need that part already goDDAMNITTTTTTT

#4 Posted by Alex_V (614 posts) -

Judging from the fans' reactions to Valve announcements at the moment I don't think they deserve anything. They'd only whinge how it isn't free.

#5 Posted by mracoon (4966 posts) -

Usually the longer a game takes to come out with Valve the better it is, much to the annoyance of fans.

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#6 Posted by MattyFTM (14365 posts) -

Left 4 Dead is developed by a different team within valve, so it's not that L4D 2 is detracting from HL3:ep3's development time. And it doesn't surprise me that episode 3 wasn't at E3, Valve are notorious for taking their time over their games.

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#7 Posted by mracoon (4966 posts) -
@MattyFTM said:
" Left 4 Dead is developed by a different team within valve, so it's not that L4D 2 is detracting from HL3:ep3's development time. And it doesn't surprise me that episode 3 wasn't at E3, Valve are notorious for taking their time over their games. "
That's not necessarily true. They don't really have separate teams or positions at Valve. That's why in the credits to their games people are listed alphabetically rather then by their position.
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#8 Posted by VilhelmNielsen (1734 posts) -
@mracoon: Well they have already said, that there has been different teams working on each episode, so that the EP1 team ware making EP3 while EP2 was in development. Plus Turtle Rock made L4D, and probably (I'm not sure) are working on L4D2.
#9 Posted by mracoon (4966 posts) -
@VilhelmNielsen said:
" @mracoon: Well they have already said, that there has been different teams working on each episode, so that the EP1 team ware making EP3 while EP2 was in development. Plus Turtle Rock made L4D, and probably (I'm not sure) are working on L4D2. "
Turtle Rock were merged with Valve so they don't exist any more. What I meant is there is a lot of crossover between the people who develop the games at Valve. Take this blog post on the TF2 site for example, whenever another game is close to release other people from around the company help to work on it.
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#10 Posted by Insectecutor (1186 posts) -

I want to see it come out alongside L4D2 in a kind of orange box moment of utter joy.

#11 Posted by VilhelmNielsen (1734 posts) -
@mracoon: Oh right, that I agree with.
#12 Posted by WickedCobra03 (2103 posts) -
They didn't need anything at E3.  I think that they will bring it out on their own, with their own event.  No need to announce it at E3, it will probably be either at their own event or at the very least a more PC centric event (German Games Convention maybe at the earliest?)
#13 Posted by CRiTE (38 posts) -
@mracoon: 
  
 Very true.but at what point do they take to long and noone cares. Dont get me wrong valve can do no wrong as far as i am concerened,but a three year dev cycle.

i thing the general public might loose what intrest they have.
#14 Posted by Bubahula (2197 posts) -

yah i was a little bummed out about that ..they better do some awesome shit with all this time

#15 Posted by Absurd (2934 posts) -

L4D2 bundled with Ep.3 mebbe?

#16 Posted by HistoryInRust (6289 posts) -
@Absurd said:
" L4D2 bundled with Ep.3 mebbe? "
I'm just going to go out on a limb and say "no way" to this.

No way.
#17 Posted by C1t1z3nMac (15 posts) -

I was a bit disappointed by that, yeah, especially since it seems way too soon to be bringing out a second L4D. I still haven't bought the first one, for crissakes. Hopefully the delay does mean we will get a superior product, but these days, not even Valve can be presumed innocent without proof. When we hear about Episode 3 though, I hope they'll have something about Portal 2 as well. Or, even better, a new IP.

#18 Edited by atomic_dumpling (2467 posts) -

I just hope the writers can get out of the corner they have written themselves into, especially since Gordon is eternally mute. Seriously, If they actually make Alyx fall in love with a mute guy who is constantly wearing a HEV suit, I will laugh my ass off. My suspension of disbelief only goes so far.

#19 Posted by Kohe321 (3523 posts) -

Yeah I haven't thought about that. Bummer :/

#20 Posted by Death_Unicorn (2838 posts) -

Yeah, I thought they would give us something, instead of Left 4 Dead 2, not that I'm complaining, just my prediction list included Episode 3, not L4D2

#21 Posted by MrAnderson588 (16 posts) -

Episode 3 is now becoming the duke nukem forever of valve lol. It will never come out. They are just going to release concept art every year and thats it.

#22 Posted by Lazyaza (2176 posts) -
I'm not surprised in the slightest that Ep 3 wasn't shown at E3.  Left4Dead is a much much muuuuuuch easier game to iterate on and if you watch the footage of LFD2 you'll see its barely changed at all from the first game which makes the fact it isn't just coming out as dlc all the more confusing, suppose a new 'box' to sell was prefered.

With every episode of half life valve makes massive upgrades to their tech and even when the game is technically 'finished' they being what they are will polish it for countless months prior to release.  If you listen to the commentary of Ep2 you'll hear them say how much the game changed in development, the entire structure of the story was different at one stage.  Their is also a strong chance that Episode 3 may become 'Half Life 3' and thus take a much longer time to develop.

Considering that I have played HL2, ep1 and ep2 more times over than any other single player games ever I'd say they can take as long making the next one as they'd like.  It was something like 3 or 4 years between HL2 and Ep1 and even longer between Hl1 and Hl2.  People need to just have patience. Valve will release it when its ready, most likely with Portal 2 and maybe another game.
#23 Posted by C1t1z3nMac (15 posts) -
@Lazyaza said:
"With every episode of half life valve makes massive upgrades to their tech and even when the game is technically 'finished' they being what they are will polish it for countless months prior to release.  If you listen to the commentary of Ep2 you'll hear them say how much the game changed in development, the entire structure of the story was different at one stage.  Their is also a strong chance that Episode 3 may become 'Half Life 3' and thus take a much longer time to develop."
That's a good point. I could see them waiting until they've made a breakthrough engine-wise to make Episode 3 look totally different to what they've put out so far. L4D did a lot of stuff right, but the tech was essentially the same Valve have used for the past few years. And yeah, I won't mind the delay at all if Episode 3 does turn out to be Half-Life 3.
#24 Posted by Snail (8593 posts) -

It bothers just about the whole Steam community.

DAMN IT! GIVE US MOAR HALF LIFE! D:

#25 Posted by AhmadMetallic (18955 posts) -
@Snail said:
" It bothers just about the whole Steam community.DAMN IT! GIVE US MOAR HALF LIFE! D: "
YES LET THERE BE A WATERFALL OF ENDLESS HALF-LIFE RELEASES I FUCKING LOVE THAT GAAAAAAAAAAME AND EVERYTHING ABOUT ITTT

*caps off*
#26 Posted by Snail (8593 posts) -
@Ahmad_Metallic said:
" @Snail said:
" It bothers just about the whole Steam community.DAMN IT! GIVE US MOAR HALF LIFE! D: "
YES LET THERE BE A WATERFALL OF ENDLESS HALF-LIFE RELEASES I FUCKING LOVE THAT GAAAAAAAAAAME AND EVERYTHING ABOUT ITTT

*caps off*"
Just one more game. ;__;
#27 Posted by AhmadMetallic (18955 posts) -
@Snail:  NO. more
#28 Posted by Snail (8593 posts) -
@Ahmad_Metallic: So that they abuse the franchise until it's crap? I say one would give it a proper ending.
#29 Posted by Engine357 (33 posts) -
@Insectecutor said:
" I want to see it come out alongside L4D2 in a kind of orange box moment of utter joy. "
I wish they did a The Oranger Box / The Orange Box 2 / The Blue Box.

A Ep.3, Portal 2, and L4D2 Bundle would Rock
#30 Posted by CowMuffins (1760 posts) -
@MattyFTM said:
" Left 4 Dead is developed by a different team within valve, so it's not that L4D 2 is detracting from HL3:ep3's development time. And it doesn't surprise me that episode 3 wasn't at E3, Valve are notorious for taking their time over their games. "
Untrue. When you work at Valve, you get to work on any game you want. I suppose nobody wants to work on Episode 3, I don't blame them. I'd rather play online with friends, in TF2 and L4D, then by myself with robots in Half Life.
#31 Posted by CRiTE (38 posts) -
@C1t1z3nMac:
I could be wrong,but didnt they say the episod, were as a whole ep 3
#32 Posted by AhmadMetallic (18955 posts) -
@Snail: Yeah.. you're right. i guess i'll just keep playing HL2 over and over.
#33 Posted by pandemic (111 posts) -

I'm just really hoping that ep3 is going to represent a huge leap forward in the technology or, even better, maybe ep3 will have evolved fully into Half Life 3.

These are really the only two acceptable excuses in my book.  Valve adopted the whole "episodic gameplay" scheme in order to more quickly produce half life games.  I know they're not sitting on their hands or anything, but it's just so frustrating.

I will say though, I can understand L4D2 coming out before ep3.  Left 4 Dead doesn't have the same depth of story nor the vast cast of bad guys that the half life series has.

#34 Posted by KingBroly (1645 posts) -

I would bet an Episode 3 trailer comes with L4D2TCEHDR.  If not...you have wonder what they're doing.

#35 Posted by Snail (8593 posts) -
@Ahmad_Metallic: I meant just one more episode for Half-Life 2, and then Half Life 3, of course.
#36 Posted by AhmadMetallic (18955 posts) -
@Snail: hahahaha nice, nice. yes HL3 sounds very appealing xD
#37 Posted by Diabloshadow (263 posts) -

Black Box - Portal 2 + Half Life2: Episode 3 + L4D2? A man can dream... :D

#38 Posted by Buccura (213 posts) -

E3 is bullshit anyway.

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