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Half-Life 2

Game » consists of 17 releases. First released on Nov 16, 2004

Once again in the role of theoretical physicist Dr. Gordon Freeman, players join the remnants of the human resistance as they battle the Combine, an occupying force of trans-dimensional alien invaders that have conquered Earth.

There is no reason that Freeman shouldn't be fully voice acted...

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#1 Posted by InertiaticESP (61 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago

There's no excuse for not voicing him fully. Maybe if the game had branching plot points and decisions, sure, yet the game is totally linear, and it's just silly to think that he hasn't said ANYTHING this ENTIRE time.

It ruins a lot of the dialogue because Alyx effective has to convey what Gordon is thinking, and she keeps addressing Gordon when any normal person would stop trying after receiving no response for a whole game and two expansions!

And to the HL purists, you seriously think it's more immersive to have him mute? You're really gonna tell me that you didn't want Gordon to grab Eli by the throat and say "OKAY, WHO THE FUCK IS THE GMAN, HOW DO YOU KNOW HIM, AND WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON HERE!" at the end of Ep 2? Even if every other line he said was lame and not what I would have said, we all know what would have made it worth it.

I really hope they add a voice for Gordon in the next game. I don't feel more "in Gordon's shoes", due to the silent protagonist, I feel more frustrated that I can't have any sort of emotional impact on any of the games characters. Knowing Valve, they'll realize their blunder and retconn in that Gordon talks.  Portal did well to have a silent protagonist. HL is supposed to be story driven. If the fans aren't receptive to the voice actor they pick, they can just change it up and retcon it, that's all Valve does anyway.


For example, nothing that happened in HL has really anything to do with HL2. The only common denominator is Black Mesa, Gman, Gordon, Crowbar, and Resonance Cascade. Oh, and a few recycled enemies. Valve loves to retcon, and the story of HL isn't even that good (and I thoroughly enjoyed the gameplay of all the episodes and HL1). 

For all we know, HL3 starts up back in Xen and the Combine were retconned and never happened.
#2 Posted by The_Laughing_Man (12089 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago

I hope they do not have him voice acted. 

#3 Posted by mfpantst (2572 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago
@InertiaticESP: ARE YOU SERIOUS?  I'm not going to sit here and tell you it's more or less immersive either way.  Because that's not the point.  it's a storytelling convention.  Far Cry 2 does this.  The point is the protagonist is a blank slate for you to project yourself on (emotions and thoughts).  And in the case of HL2, I think you can argue the fact that linearity working against this like you said is purposeful.  You are supposed to get the feeling that you have no choice.  It's a central theme.  So move on.
#4 Posted by Rockdalf (1274 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago

You just don't understand the point of an everyman, do you?

#5 Posted by blueduck (964 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago
@The_Laughing_Man said:
I hope they do not have him voice acted. 
I agree, and from the sounds of it the OP doesn't know what he's talking about.
#6 Edited by No0b0rAmA (1486 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago
#7 Edited by Daveyo520 (6538 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago

That would be like making Link talk, or see Master Chief's face. it is a gaming staple that he doesn't talk and I don't think they should change it. Also no voice will ever be right. Also what if he is mute? Are you a dick and hate mute people? They can't talk so you should just stop talking to them after they never respond. Also no I did not want to rip out Eli's throat because I am not a dick.


Retcon? When has Valve retconed anything? They will not "realize their blunder" because they didn't make one.

Also your last sentence is just stupid.
#8 Posted by Beforet (2629 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago

If they give him a voice, he stops being the Freeman that I have played through 2 games and I stop caring about the character in the same way.

#9 Posted by Toms115 (2313 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago

sure there is. it's valve's game and i'm pretty sure they're entitled to do what they like with it. pretty sure.

#10 Posted by Dtat (1615 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago

I think the silent protagonist is a perfectly legitimate story-telling technique.

#11 Edited by Underachiever007 (2460 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago

I'd like him to be voice acted. That character is so iconic he doesn't really feel like an avatar for the player, which I assume is the reason they kept him silent in the first place.


Oddly enough, I don't have a problem with Chell or Link being silent at all, so maybe this is just another stupid thing that continues to irk me for no logical reason whatsoever.
#12 Posted by ShaneDev (1696 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago

I really hope you are not being serious, because if you are you an idiot. I will however add that at this point it would utterly destroy the immersion and story if Gordon started talking, its the reason they don't add it and I hope they never do.

#13 Posted by BabyChooChoo (3575 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago

If Valve keeps making great games with great stories, they could make the protagonist blind for all I care...

...wait

#14 Posted by Kyreo (4594 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago
#15 Posted by mfpantst (2572 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago
@Underachiever007: you apparently know thyself well
#16 Posted by cstrang (2381 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago

I consider any other real Half-Life title to be vaporware at this point, retconned or not.  And it's Valve's "thing" to do the silent protagonist deal.  I don't think they'd change that now.

#17 Posted by innacces14 (726 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago

I'm one to side with the Bombcast discussion of Nolan North being the voice of Freeman. It should be right at the end where something climactic is about to happen and it should just be one big, giant "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!"

#18 Posted by TEHMAXXORZ (1199 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago

Hmmmm.... no thanks.

Anyway, no one really knows who Gman is, or what his alignment is (people think he's evil, but we don't know). And from what I remembered... 
#19 Edited by GetEveryone (4448 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago

A new user starts a controversial topic.


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@innacces14 said:
I'm one to side with the Bombcast discussion of Nolan North being the voice of Freeman. It should be right at the end where something climactic is about to happen and it should just be one big, giant "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!"
In some way... I really like that idea. Should Alex die, I think they'll need to have him acknowledge it.
#20 Posted by Beaudacious (890 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago
@The_Laughing_Man said:
I hope they do not have him voice acted. 
#21 Posted by Underachiever007 (2460 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago
@mfpantst said:
@Underachiever007: you apparently know thyself well
All these years of mortal existence have taught me this: sometimes - just like every other individual - I can have some stupid opinions. I try to improve!
#22 Posted by fox01313 (4736 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago

If there was just the first half life game then it might make sense but after all of HL2 plus the episodes, it seems that if there ever is a HL3, then they probably aren't going to give him a voice as I'm sure after all this time the people at valve for HL2 or the episodes have argued this point until everyone has heard every point/counter-point 3000 times over.

#23 Posted by Lemegeton (780 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago

i can see where you are coming from but Gordon Freeman has become such an iconic character because he has been silent.
if you change him now you will destroy the character.

#24 Posted by 1337W422102 (975 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago

Cry more, OP.  lrn2storytelling, while you're at it.

#25 Posted by mfpantst (2572 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago
@Underachiever007: Yes.  And I honestly liked WET.  So... yeah....
#26 Posted by Underachiever007 (2460 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago
@mfpantst said:
@Underachiever007: Yes.  And I honestly liked WET.  So... yeah....
There was stuff in WET that was pretty dope.
#27 Posted by mfpantst (2572 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago
@Underachiever007 said:
@mfpantst said:
@Underachiever007: Yes.  And I honestly liked WET.  So... yeah....
There was stuff in WET that was pretty dope.
Yeah- but (and I'm past the age of yelling about review scores), but I was quite nearly butthurt by Jeff's quick  look and review....
#28 Edited by nintendoeats (5970 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago

Valve has spent the last 15 years advancing the art of game storytelling by developing ways to make the player identify themselves as a character. Giving Gordon a voice would undo all of that work.

Valve kind of knows what they are doing.

EDIT: Also, Valve has never retconned anything (except some minor graphical things). The weak relationship between stories of HL1 and 2 does not constitute a retconn.

#29 Posted by GunslingerPanda (4051 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago

OP is a retard.

#30 Posted by Yanngc33 (4472 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago

You don't get it, you are Freeman thus he is not voiced

#31 Posted by SoldierG654342 (1366 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago

Gordon being a mute wouldn't bother me so much if it was explained as something physical with him, rather than it begin a choice on his part. The fact that Alyx is so sweet on him even though he (as far as we know) chooses not to speak personally breaks immersion for me. 

#32 Posted by Gargantuan (1809 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago
#33 Posted by Jimbo (8837 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago

He's actually doing this the whole game:

#34 Posted by Cupids_Hitman (157 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago
@GetEveryone said:
A new user starts a controversial topic.

Surprise.

@innacces14 said:
I'm one to side with the Bombcast discussion of Nolan North being the voice of Freeman. It should be right at the end where something climactic is about to happen and it should just be one big, giant "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!"
In some way... I really like that idea. Should Alex die, I think they'll need to have him acknowledge it.
They had better not kill Alyx. If that were to happen, Gaben would have some serious 'splaining to do.
#35 Posted by louiedog (2286 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago

It's too late now. I feel like giving him a voice at this stage would be too weird.

#36 Posted by Cupids_Hitman (157 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago
@Jimbo: I don't get it, but for some reason I find that very funny.
#37 Posted by animathias (1031 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago
#38 Posted by innacces14 (726 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago
@Cupids_Hitman said:
@GetEveryone said:
A new user starts a controversial topic.

Surprise.

@innacces14 said:
I'm one to side with the Bombcast discussion of Nolan North being the voice of Freeman. It should be right at the end where something climactic is about to happen and it should just be one big, giant "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!"
In some way... I really like that idea. Should Alex die, I think they'll need to have him acknowledge it.
They had better not kill Alyx. If that were to happen, Gaben would have some serious 'splaining to do.
Well who's to say Alyx is gonna die and it's Freeman's battle-cry as he sacrifices himself for the greater good. After all...

"The right man in the wrong place can make all the difference in the world"
#39 Posted by Damodar (728 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago
@Gargantuan said:
lololol I was reading through the thread, with the intention of posting that Gordon should just drop one bit of dialogue near the end of whatever game ends the half life series, Silent Bob style.
#40 Posted by Delphye (382 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago
@GetEveryone said:
A new user starts a controversial topic.

Surprise.
#41 Posted by LordXavierBritish (6233 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago

I never got why people see Freeman as such a great character, all I know from what it has shown me in game is that he is a physicist and a mother fucker.

Oh wait, never mind.

#42 Posted by Shadow (4873 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago

He's played by Daniel Day Lewis. It just so happens that the script has never called for a line of dialogue.

#43 Posted by ryanwho (12083 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago

He's the avatar, Alyx is the main character. That's why he doesn't have a voice.

#44 Posted by TheHT (8082 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago

lol everything in HL2 happened because of HL1.

#45 Posted by TheGreatGuero (9065 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago

Maybe he's a mute? At this point, I think it might be crazy to give him a voice, since it would be unbelievably strange that he had gone through 2 games without talking.

#46 Posted by ajamafalous (10584 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago
@mfpantst said:
@InertiaticESP: ARE YOU SERIOUS?  I'm not going to sit here and tell you it's more or less immersive either way.  Because that's not the point.  it's a storytelling convention.  Far Cry 2 does this.  The point is the protagonist is a blank slate for you to project yourself on (emotions and thoughts).  And in the case of HL2, I think you can argue the fact that linearity working against this like you said is purposeful.  You are supposed to get the feeling that you have no choice.  It's a central theme.  So move on.
I'm not even going to respond to this thread myself because the second reply is the answer.
#47 Posted by HandsomeDead (11863 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago

I really don't appreciate that they write the fact the character is a mute into the storyline without taking the extra considerations that he has all kinds of people talking to him, decisions to make, Alyx blatantly hitting on him even though he's got zero personality and yet he does nothing to respond to these people. Makes you wonder if he's all there in the head.

#48 Posted by Irvandus (2275 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago

He is me, if he didn't sound like me than he wouldn't be me... simple isn't it?

#49 Posted by James_ex_machina (816 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago

Don't say a word Gordon! 

#50 Posted by Jasta (2214 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago

It wouldn't stop me playing the game if he was to be voiced, but fuck me it would spoil a lot of the mystique surrounding the character.

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