I've been playing CS since 2000 and made the move to CSS in 2004 because I personally thought it was an improvement and people only say it is easier because they play against noobs, if you play against experienced CS players then suddenly it becomes much harder.

Anyways Online FPS games have come and gone and yet nothing has ever been better than CS and made me want to play that instead. Theres just something about CS that makes you really have to work for your kills and it feels satisfying. I find the feedback from CS to be really amazing too because in most FPS you don't know if you hit your target but CS you instantly know somehow. Other FPS games like BF2 and COD just feel all floaty to me and I just can't stand them.

I've been wanting a new online FPS experience for years now but every time something comes out it just never is as good and I fear the only thing that will be better is when Valve make CS2 which is probably 5 years away.

I agree CS is great. It is the greatest competitive fps available, I'm sure someday there will be a better game. Maybe Counter Strike 2?

This entire topic is just subjective as hell, to you, you obviously haven't played any recent online FPS that you find better than it or on the same level, I agree CS was great and I still go back and play it sometimes as well, but I've enjoyed plenty of online FPS just as fun/better than CS entirely. TF2 I have a ton of fun with, cod4 I still play sometimes, L4D isn't your traditional fps pvp, but the versus mode in it is hell of a lot of fun imo.

While I agree that Valve takes forever to get things made, its been said that possibly when HL2 episode 3 comes out, they could actually have a  CS2 in that next <insert color here> Box they release.Maybe Hl2episode 3, CS2, Portal 2, or something along those lines. Of course nothing is set in stone at all, but I think it is a bit closer than 5 years off.

Aslong as they don't stick vehicles in it to ruin the close combat gameplay and they don't remake dust2 because I'm sick of that map lol you just know if they put that map in CS2 that it would be all that people play.

COD4 is already more popular.

Just check how many hours of COD4 is played per day compared to CS:S

And it's just as pro. :D

Yeh but COD4 sucks, It just feels floaty.


Also it's only more popular because it is newer and had lots of marketing around it. Counter Strike is 9 years old and has no marketing and CSS is over 4 years old and has none.

"Yeh but COD4 sucks, It just feels floaty.


Also it's only more popular because it is newer and had lots of marketing around it. Counter Strike is 9 years old and has no marketing and CSS is over 4 years old and has none."

let's face it if someone told you different you'd just rage and flame so goodbye

Halo 3 slipped my mind I actually think its as good or better than counter strike source.

Never played Halo 3 multiplayer because I tried Single Player but man controlling an FPS without a mouse and keyboard is impossible and I found the camera movement to be too slow.

"Yeh but COD4 sucks, It just feels floaty.


Also it's only more popular because it is newer and had lots of marketing around it. Counter Strike is 9 years old and has no marketing and CSS is over 4 years old and has none."

Bullcrap: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfT4A5fql_0

And also, ultimately irrelevent. COD4 does not get any advertisement time anymore, and it is growing, besides that, there are other games that are minimally advertised and get more hours played into them, (Call of Duty 2, Silk Road, etc). 

It seems like you don't care about trying anything other than Counter-Strike, so you shouldn't ask for other people's opinions. Especially when your response towards a suggestion is "it sucks, feels floaty".

"Never played Halo 3 multiplayer because I tried Single Player but man controlling an FPS without a mouse and keyboard is impossible and I found the camera movement to be too slow."

Halo 3 is okay, it gets really boring quick, though. I'd give TF2 a shot; plenty of people seem to really enjoy it, and I've always really enjoyed the few times I've sat down and played it.

"Halo 3 is okay, it gets really boring quick, though. I'd give TF2 a shot; plenty of people seem to really enjoy it, and I've always really enjoyed the few times I've sat down and played it."

"Halo 3 is okay, it gets really boring quick, though. I'd give TF2 a shot; plenty of people seem to really enjoy it, and I've always really enjoyed the few times I've sat down and played it."

"Aslong as they don't stick vehicles in it to ruin the close combat gameplay and they don't remake dust2 because I'm sick of that map lol you just know if they put that map in CS2 that it would be all that people play."

I hear that, in the future, Daikatana will be hot stuff. I mean, with John Romero behind it and all, surely nothing about it could go wrong. Why, there's an ad for it just egging you on to play that game unless you want your self-esteem to plummet, so clearly it's going to be awesome.

"I hear that, in the future, Daikatana will be hot stuff. I mean, with John Romero behind it and all, surely nothing about it could go wrong. I mean, there's an ad for it just egging you on to play that game unless you want your self-esteem to plummet, so clearly it's going to be awesome.

It isn't considered great now merely because people have played it the wrong way for years on end, but mark my words, once people figure out how to work around the failures, it'll definitely top CounterStrike in every respect. I smell a comeback folks!

"

Unless you have played CS, Natural Selection AND Day of Defeat (Pre-source), you're in no position to crown anyone king of online FPS.

CS, NS and DoD, if you ask me, are about equal in quality, with different focal points each. But if I had to choose a #1, I'd pick NS without hesitation.

CS is more of a serious online fps, well balanced and a more difficult game than say Halo 3. However, I always felt that Halo 3 was just as fun as its differnet, and arcade like with recharge able shield and power ups. Like other people have suggested maybe try TF 2 or theres a mod called Insurgency for half life 2, its quite realalistic and in the same vien as CS.

"I've been playing CS since 2000 and made the move to CSS in 2004 because I personally thought it was an improvement and people only say it is easier because they play against noobs, if you play against experienced CS players then suddenly it becomes much harder.

Anyways Online FPS games have come and gone and yet nothing has ever been better than CS and made me want to play that instead. Theres just something about CS that makes you really have to work for your kills and it feels satisfying. I find the feedback from CS to be really amazing too because in most FPS you don't know if you hit your target but CS you instantly know somehow. Other FPS games like BF2 and COD just feel all floaty to me and I just can't stand them.

I've been wanting a new online FPS experience for years now but every time something comes out it just never is as good and I fear the only thing that will be better is when Valve make CS2 which is probably 5 years away."

"PapaLazarou said:

"I've been playing CS since 2000 and made the move to CSS in 2004 because I personally thought it was an improvement and people only say it is easier because they play against noobs, if you play against experienced CS players then suddenly it becomes much harder.

Anyways Online FPS games have come and gone and yet nothing has ever been better than CS and made me want to play that instead. Theres just something about CS that makes you really have to work for your kills and it feels satisfying. I find the feedback from CS to be really amazing too because in most FPS you don't know if you hit your target but CS you instantly know somehow. Other FPS games like BF2 and COD just feel all floaty to me and I just can't stand them.

I've been wanting a new online FPS experience for years now but every time something comes out it just never is as good and I fear the only thing that will be better is when Valve make CS2 which is probably 5 years away."

sounds like you are to used to cs, and arent willing to adjust to anything which isnt cs.

So the answer is no.

For you, there will never be a better fps than cs.

Im already sure cs2 will be a massive dissapointment for you."

"Unless you have played CS, Natural Selection AND Day of Defeat (Pre-source), you're in no position to crown anyone king of online FPS.

CS, NS and DoD, if you ask me, are about equal in quality, with different focal points each. But if I had to choose a #1, I'd pick NS without hesitation.
"

CS is too hardcore for me. I prefer TF2.

"Rowr said:

sounds like you are to used to cs, and arent willing to adjust to anything which isnt cs.

So the answer is no.

For you, there will never be a better fps than cs.

Im already sure cs2 will be a massive dissapointment for you."

Exactly. He just doesn't like anything that isn't CS. 

There are numerous PC FPS games that have rivaled CS:

+ Battlefield 2 

+ Team Fortress 2

+ Call of Duty 4

+ Wolfenstein ET

+ Halo Combat Evolved

"

Halo PC is excellent. Many PC gamers don't like it because it's one of the most publicized series for the Xbox. But the port is great, and it was very successful. It's still like the 6th most played PC multiplayer game. 

"let's face it if someone told you different you'd just rage and flame so goodbye"

"HelixSnake said:

"Halo 3 is okay, it gets really boring quick, though. I'd give TF2 a shot; plenty of people seem to really enjoy it, and I've always really enjoyed the few times I've sat down and played it."

halo 3 is most played game on xbox live after a year and 3 months......

yeah it gets boring REEEEEEAL quick"

Counter strike is than not that game where every body plays that one desert map and the goal is to go the rush the same patch every time to the enemy hoping you get to shoot first?

"crunchUK said:

"HelixSnake said:

"Halo 3 is okay, it gets really boring quick, though. I'd give TF2 a shot; plenty of people seem to really enjoy it, and I've always really enjoyed the few times I've sat down and played it."

halo 3 is most played game on xbox live after a year and 3 months......

yeah it gets boring REEEEEEAL quick"

...but I thought Call of Duty 4 was the most played game on Xbox Live. Anyway, this topic is entirely subjective and to treat it otherwise is stupid."

The only online FPS that really struck the right cord with me is CoD 4. So in my own personal opinion, it's far better than CS.

"Counter strike is than not that game where every body plays that one desert map and the goal is to go the rush the same patch every time to the enemy hoping you get to shoot first?"

Yeah I agree with others, you need to give other FPS's a shot and play them substatialy and them come and tell us that there is nothing better than CS. In my opinion, CoD4 is up there with CSS and CS because i think it is just as good. 

"Counter strike is than not that game where every body plays that one desert map and the goal is to go the rush the same patch every time to the enemy hoping you get to shoot first?"

"BiggerBomb said:

"crunchUK said:

"HelixSnake said:

"Halo 3 is okay, it gets really boring quick, though. I'd give TF2 a shot; plenty of people seem to really enjoy it, and I've always really enjoyed the few times I've sat down and played it."

halo 3 is most played game on xbox live after a year and 3 months......

yeah it gets boring REEEEEEAL quick"

...but I thought Call of Duty 4 was the most played game on Xbox Live. Anyway, this topic is entirely subjective and to treat it otherwise is stupid."

It was, than I think they released a new map pack and Halo 3 made a comeback. But yeah, this is in the PC forum, so to take it seriously would be a waste of everybody's time."

I suppose that it is part of a sub-genre completely unrelated to CSS besides the fact that both have guns, but I consider Unreal Tournament 2004 to be the greatest online FPS I've ever played.

"Endogene said:

"Counter strike is than not that game where every body plays that one desert map and the goal is to go the rush the same patch every time to the enemy hoping you get to shoot first?"

Yepp, that's the game. You do the same exact thing 20 times in repetition. There's no learning curve, there's nothing to learn besides the maps. You just have to be able to aim and shoot faster, that's all it comes down to. "

"Endogene said:

"Counter strike is than not that game where every body plays that one desert map and the goal is to go the rush the same patch every time to the enemy hoping you get to shoot first?"

Yepp, that's the game. You do the same exact thing 20 times in repetition. There's no learning curve, there's nothing to learn besides the maps. You just have to be able to aim and shoot faster, that's all it comes down to. "

For me it's a toss up between CS and TFC. Those are the only games that I can consistently come back to and play for hours on end. Sure I played CoD4 for 6 months straight, and it was great fun, but I'm burnt out on it now. The first game I went back to was CS, so I guess for me it's up there as the best "serious" online FPS.

"PapaLazarou said:

"I've been playing CS since 2000 and made the move to CSS in 2004 because I personally thought it was an improvement and people only say it is easier because they play against noobs, if you play against experienced CS players then suddenly it becomes much harder.

Anyways Online FPS games have come and gone and yet nothing has ever been better than CS and made me want to play that instead. Theres just something about CS that makes you really have to work for your kills and it feels satisfying. I find the feedback from CS to be really amazing too because in most FPS you don't know if you hit your target but CS you instantly know somehow. Other FPS games like BF2 and COD just feel all floaty to me and I just can't stand them.

I've been wanting a new online FPS experience for years now but every time something comes out it just never is as good and I fear the only thing that will be better is when Valve make CS2 which is probably 5 years away."

sounds like you are to used to cs, and arent willing to adjust to anything which isnt cs.

So the answer is no.

For you, there will never be a better fps than cs.

Im already sure cs2 will be a massive dissapointment for you."

It isn't CS but just how Valve makes an FPS because I love the feeling of playing TF2 and L4D and all their classic games. I dunno how they get the feedback feeling of killing someone so rigth but they just do it so well and make it feel satisfying. When I'm playing COD4 it feels all floaty and killing other people just doesn't make you feel good like CS does. I had the same floaty feel with BF2 and quake Wars and Halo...... they just feel wrong like when you shoot someone it just feels like you're hitting mid air though you got a kill and with CS you just get that feedback that you killed them.

I just think Valve create FPS games that are far superior to anyone else.


It's hard to explain but in most other FPS games but Unreal Tournament your character feels all floaty and like he has no weight to him and the hitboxes just feel all off like you ain't even shooting anything.

"Rowr said:

"It's hard to explain but in most other FPS games but Unreal Tournament your character feels all floaty and like he has no weight to him and the hitboxes just feel all off like you ain't even shooting anything."

On the pc?  I'd say probably, but it's not announced.  COD4 is pretty fun, but that went by. 

On consoles, I'd say Halo is better.
That being said, some people do prefer TF2 to CSS due to the style of play. I disagree, but I can see why they think that way.


HandsomeDead said:

"BiggerBomb said:

"crunchUK said:

"HelixSnake said:

"Halo 3 is okay, it gets really boring quick, though. I'd give TF2 a shot; plenty of people seem to really enjoy it, and I've always really enjoyed the few times I've sat down and played it."

halo 3 is most played game on xbox live after a year and 3 months......

yeah it gets boring REEEEEEAL quick"

...but I thought Call of Duty 4 was the most played game on Xbox Live. Anyway, this topic is entirely subjective and to treat it otherwise is stupid."

It was, than I think they released a new map pack and Halo 3 made a comeback. But yeah, this is in the PC forum, so to take it seriously would be a waste of everybody's time."

"On the pc?  I'd say probably, but it's not announced.  COD4 is pretty fun, but that went by. 

On consoles, I'd say Halo is better.
That being said, some people do prefer TF2 to CSS due to the style of play. I disagree, but I can see why they think that way.


HandsomeDead said:

"BiggerBomb said:

"crunchUK said:

"HelixSnake said:

"Halo 3 is okay, it gets really boring quick, though. I'd give TF2 a shot; plenty of people seem to really enjoy it, and I've always really enjoyed the few times I've sat down and played it."

halo 3 is most played game on xbox live after a year and 3 months......

yeah it gets boring REEEEEEAL quick"

...but I thought Call of Duty 4 was the most played game on Xbox Live. Anyway, this topic is entirely subjective and to treat it otherwise is stupid."

It was, than I think they released a new map pack and Halo 3 made a comeback. But yeah, this is in the PC forum, so to take it seriously would be a waste of everybody's time."

No, not really.  What happened was people were done with COD4.  The map packs came after it regained.  Halo 3 is constantly changing and really, it doesn't get old.  COD4 just feels like the same thing over and over, Halo has more variety and the individual matches play out much differently.   That being said, this is a topic about the pc and this is worthless to discuss"

Counter Strike was good in it's day and age, but shooters have evolved so much since then, that I don't think I can go back. I have great memories of that game, and if I go back I'll ruin them.

"Counter Strike was good in it's day and age, but shooters have evolved so much since then, that I don't think I can go back. I have great memories of that game, and if I go back I'll ruin them."

"HelixSnake said:

"Halo 3 is okay, it gets really boring quick, though. I'd give TF2 a shot; plenty of people seem to really enjoy it, and I've always really enjoyed the few times I've sat down and played it."

halo 3 is most played game on xbox live after a year and 3 months......

yeah it gets boring REEEEEEAL quick"

Dude, have you ever played Halo 2? If the matchmaking wasn't so unbelievably slow, I might still be playing it. The last time I tried, it was taking like 10 minutes to load each match, so my friend and I just played some custom games and remembered the good old days.

I personally hate CS
Best multiplayer shooters out in my opinion are TF2 for teamwork or Cod4 for mindless frags

TF matches can be won without teamwork. CS matches can be won without teamwork. Both games are too heavily influenced by the hardcore players. If you're a great teamplayer but don't feel like spending months to perfect your skillz, CS in most cases is nothing for you. That's why I regard CS as not-so-perfect as other people do.

Natural Selection has a role and mode for everybody. If you don't feel like teamwork, join the Alien team. If you're in the mind for strategy, become Commander. If you just want to show off or improve your shot, get a few rounds of combat in. Whether you're one of the guys who quickly become emotional over such games, or whether you're just in it for a few minutes of fun, whether you're communicative or not, whether you're good at defense, offense, strategy or all of them - There's always something fun and entertaining to do in Natural Selection.
Plus, the NS community is refreshingly free of kiddos. What's going on in the voice and text channels during public games is surprisingly calm, mature and entertaining.
That's why I regard NS as the best online FPS. And it should run on almost every system.

Counter Strike 2 (I hope)