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Will there ever be an online FPS that is better than CS?

Topic started by PapaLazarou on Dec. 30, 2008. Last post by DavidPalmer 10 months, 1 week ago.
Post by PapaLazarou (335 posts) See mini bio
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I've been playing CS since 2000 and made the move to CSS in 2004 because I personally thought it was an improvement and people only say it is easier because they play against noobs, if you play against experienced CS players then suddenly it becomes much harder.

Anyways Online FPS games have come and gone and yet nothing has ever been better than CS and made me want to play that instead. Theres just something about CS that makes you really have to work for your kills and it feels satisfying. I find the feedback from CS to be really amazing too because in most FPS you don't know if you hit your target but CS you instantly know somehow. Other FPS games like BF2 and COD just feel all floaty to me and I just can't stand them.

I've been wanting a new online FPS experience for years now but every time something comes out it just never is as good and I fear the only thing that will be better is when Valve make CS2 which is probably 5 years away.


Post by Moon (280 posts) See mini bio

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I agree CS is great. It is the greatest competitive fps available, I'm sure someday there will be a better game. Maybe Counter Strike 2?


Post by pause422 (4,083 posts) See mini bio
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This entire topic is just subjective as hell, to you, you obviously haven't played any recent online FPS that you find better than it or on the same level, I agree CS was great and I still go back and play it sometimes as well, but I've enjoyed plenty of online FPS just as fun/better than CS entirely. TF2 I have a ton of fun with, cod4 I still play sometimes, L4D isn't your traditional fps pvp, but the versus mode in it is hell of a lot of fun imo.

While I agree that Valve takes forever to get things made, its been said that possibly when HL2 episode 3 comes out, they could actually have a  CS2 in that next <insert color here> Box they release.Maybe Hl2episode 3, CS2, Portal 2, or something along those lines. Of course nothing is set in stone at all, but I think it is a bit closer than 5 years off.


Post by PapaLazarou (335 posts) See mini bio
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Aslong as they don't stick vehicles in it to ruin the close combat gameplay and they don't remake dust2 because I'm sick of that map lol you just know if they put that map in CS2 that it would be all that people play.


Post by The_Ish (386 posts) See mini bio

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COD4 is already more popular.

Just check how many hours of COD4 is played per day compared to CS:S

And it's just as pro. :D



Post by PapaLazarou (335 posts) See mini bio
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Yeh but COD4 sucks, It just feels floaty.


Also it's only more popular because it is newer and had lots of marketing around it. Counter Strike is 9 years old and has no marketing and CSS is over 4 years old and has none.


Post by Moon (280 posts) See mini bio

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PapaLazarou said:
"Yeh but COD4 sucks, It just feels floaty.


Also it's only more popular because it is newer and had lots of marketing around it. Counter Strike is 9 years old and has no marketing and CSS is over 4 years old and has none."
Counter strike also started with a budget of 0$ as a mod. I never liked cod4 because all the skills I learned in counter strike are useless because the game is too balance. (except for cooked grenades.)


Post by crunchUK (4,945 posts) See mini bio
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let's face it if someone told you different you'd just rage and flame so goodbye


Post by Moon (280 posts) See mini bio

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Halo 3 slipped my mind I actually think its as good or better than counter strike source.


Post by PapaLazarou (335 posts) See mini bio
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Never played Halo 3 multiplayer because I tried Single Player but man controlling an FPS without a mouse and keyboard is impossible and I found the camera movement to be too slow.


Post by The_Ish (386 posts) See mini bio

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PapaLazarou said:
"Yeh but COD4 sucks, It just feels floaty.


Also it's only more popular because it is newer and had lots of marketing around it. Counter Strike is 9 years old and has no marketing and CSS is over 4 years old and has none."

Bullcrap: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfT4A5fql_0

And also, ultimately irrelevent. COD4 does not get any advertisement time anymore, and it is growing, besides that, there are other games that are minimally advertised and get more hours played into them, (Call of Duty 2, Silk Road, etc). 

It seems like you don't care about trying anything other than Counter-Strike, so you shouldn't ask for other people's opinions. Especially when your response towards a suggestion is "it sucks, feels floaty".



Post by crunchUK (4,945 posts) See mini bio
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PapaLazarou said:
"Never played Halo 3 multiplayer because I tried Single Player but man controlling an FPS without a mouse and keyboard is impossible and I found the camera movement to be too slow."
one word: pausesettingsgamecontrolslooksensitivity

duh...

And halo 3 hardly focuses on aiming whatsoever... more so cunning like grenade trapping flanking and using the weapons available tp exploit whatever weapon your opponent has weaknesses and on at higher levels team strategy... because a team that uses atrategy can simply make a team that doesn't use strategy giveup and quit within the first 2 minutes.



and plus it's the best game evar (MP wise at least)


Post by HelixSnake (226 posts) See mini bio

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Halo 3 is okay, it gets really boring quick, though. I'd give TF2 a shot; plenty of people seem to really enjoy it, and I've always really enjoyed the few times I've sat down and played it.


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HelixSnake said:
"Halo 3 is okay, it gets really boring quick, though. I'd give TF2 a shot; plenty of people seem to really enjoy it, and I've always really enjoyed the few times I've sat down and played it."
halo 3 is most played game on xbox live after a year and 3 months......

yeah it gets boring REEEEEEAL quick


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HelixSnake said:
"Halo 3 is okay, it gets really boring quick, though. I'd give TF2 a shot; plenty of people seem to really enjoy it, and I've always really enjoyed the few times I've sat down and played it."
halo 3 is most played game on xbox live after a year and 3 months......

yeah it gets boring REEEEEEAL quick


Post by pause422 (4,083 posts) See mini bio
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PapaLazarou said:
"Aslong as they don't stick vehicles in it to ruin the close combat gameplay and they don't remake dust2 because I'm sick of that map lol you just know if they put that map in CS2 that it would be all that people play."
Valve wouldn't do something like stick vehicles in it, I can guarantee that. Also, to him and plenty of other people ANY single game can get boring quick, or need to be played a little here, then break and played some more. The same way I would agree WoW got boring for me after less than a month, but near 12million people are playing today, obviously we just disagree.


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I hear that, in the future, Daikatana will be hot stuff. I mean, with John Romero behind it and all, surely nothing about it could go wrong. Why, there's an ad for it just egging you on to play that game unless you want your self-esteem to plummet, so clearly it's going to be awesome.

It isn't considered great now merely because people have played it the wrong way for years on end, but mark my words, once people figure out how to work around the failures, it'll definitely top CounterStrike in every respect. I smell a comeback, folks!


Post by Manachild (438 posts) See mini bio
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Pepsiman said:
"I hear that, in the future, Daikatana will be hot stuff. I mean, with John Romero behind it and all, surely nothing about it could go wrong. I mean, there's an ad for it just egging you on to play that game unless you want your self-esteem to plummet, so clearly it's going to be awesome.
It isn't considered great now merely because people have played it the wrong way for years on end, but mark my words, once people figure out how to work around the failures, it'll definitely top CounterStrike in every respect. I smell a comeback folks!
"
its like the velvet underground of video games.


Post by Meowayne (2,834 posts) See mini bio
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Unless you have played CS, Natural Selection AND Day of Defeat (Pre-source), you're in no position to crown anyone king of online FPS.

CS, NS and DoD, if you ask me, are about equal in quality, with different focal points each. But if I had to choose a #1, I'd pick NS without hesitation.


Post by Teh_Eel (199 posts) See mini bio

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CS is more of a serious online fps, well balanced and a more difficult game than say Halo 3. However, I always felt that Halo 3 was just as fun as its differnet, and arcade like with recharge able shield and power ups. Like other people have suggested maybe try TF 2 or theres a mod called Insurgency for half life 2, its quite realalistic and in the same vien as CS.


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PapaLazarou said:
"I've been playing CS since 2000 and made the move to CSS in 2004 because I personally thought it was an improvement and people only say it is easier because they play against noobs, if you play against experienced CS players then suddenly it becomes much harder.

Anyways Online FPS games have come and gone and yet nothing has ever been better than CS and made me want to play that instead. Theres just something about CS that makes you really have to work for your kills and it feels satisfying. I find the feedback from CS to be really amazing too because in most FPS you don't know if you hit your target but CS you instantly know somehow. Other FPS games like BF2 and COD just feel all floaty to me and I just can't stand them.

I've been wanting a new online FPS experience for years now but every time something comes out it just never is as good and I fear the only thing that will be better is when Valve make CS2 which is probably 5 years away."
sounds like you are to used to cs, and arent willing to adjust to anything which isnt cs.

So the answer is no.

For you, there will never be a better fps than cs.

Im already sure cs2 will be a massive dissapointment for you.


Post by Pepsiman (466 posts) See mini bio
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Rowr said:
"PapaLazarou said:
"I've been playing CS since 2000 and made the move to CSS in 2004 because I personally thought it was an improvement and people only say it is easier because they play against noobs, if you play against experienced CS players then suddenly it becomes much harder.

Anyways Online FPS games have come and gone and yet nothing has ever been better than CS and made me want to play that instead. Theres just something about CS that makes you really have to work for your kills and it feels satisfying. I find the feedback from CS to be really amazing too because in most FPS you don't know if you hit your target but CS you instantly know somehow. Other FPS games like BF2 and COD just feel all floaty to me and I just can't stand them.

I've been wanting a new online FPS experience for years now but every time something comes out it just never is as good and I fear the only thing that will be better is when Valve make CS2 which is probably 5 years away."
sounds like you are to used to cs, and arent willing to adjust to anything which isnt cs.

So the answer is no.

For you, there will never be a better fps than cs.

Im already sure cs2 will be a massive dissapointment for you."
Unless it runs on the Daikatana engine. Then you know it'll exceed everyone's expectations!
Clearly I'm a serious endorser for such an underdog!


Post by pause422 (4,083 posts) See mini bio
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Meowayne said:
"Unless you have played CS, Natural Selection AND Day of Defeat (Pre-source), you're in no position to crown anyone king of online FPS.

CS, NS and DoD, if you ask me, are about equal in quality, with different focal points each. But if I had to choose a #1, I'd pick NS without hesitation.
"
To him it is the king of FPS. It's pretty obvious qwhen someone makes a topic in a forum like this they mean to them, that is the best game they've played. He isn't crowning it king of everything in general, nor does he need everyone to agree. As Rowr said, if he finds cs so perfect, and nothing comes close to it for whichever specific reasons, it will be pretty impossible for any other game to stand up to it. I think just having a bit of an open mind and try some other great mp games, it would sure help.


Post by xruntime (1,308 posts) See mini bio

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Rowr said:
sounds like you are to used to cs, and arent willing to adjust to anything which isnt cs.

So the answer is no.

For you, there will never be a better fps than cs.

Im already sure cs2 will be a massive dissapointment for you."

Exactly. He just doesn't like anything that isn't CS. 

There are numerous PC FPS games that have rivaled CS:

+ Battlefield 2 
+ Team Fortress 2
+ Call of Duty 4
+ Wolfenstein ET
+ Halo Combat Evolved


Post by mracoon (1,839 posts) See mini bio
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CS is too hardcore for me. I prefer TF2.


Post by pause422 (4,083 posts) See mini bio
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xruntime said:
"Rowr said:
sounds like you are to used to cs, and arent willing to adjust to anything which isnt cs.

So the answer is no.

For you, there will never be a better fps than cs.

Im already sure cs2 will be a massive dissapointment for you."

Exactly. He just doesn't like anything that isn't CS. 

There are numerous PC FPS games that have rivaled CS:

+ Battlefield 2 
+ Team Fortress 2
+ Call of Duty 4
+ Wolfenstein ET
+ Halo Combat Evolved
"
I'll agree with most of that and add ET Quake Wars, but Halo isn't even close. It's never even been as good as it is  on console when they port it to PC. Halo 2's port was even worse.


Post by xruntime (1,308 posts) See mini bio

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Halo PC is excellent. Many PC gamers don't like it because it's one of the most publicized series for the Xbox. But the port is great, and it was very successful. It's still like the 6th most played PC multiplayer game. 
Halo 2's port was bad, true. But Halo 1 was great. It ran without any problems, had extra content, and low system requirements.


Post by BiggerBomb (5,747 posts) See mini bio

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crunchUK said:
"let's face it if someone told you different you'd just rage and flame so goodbye"

Agreed.....

crunchUK said:
"HelixSnake said:
"Halo 3 is okay, it gets really boring quick, though. I'd give TF2 a shot; plenty of people seem to really enjoy it, and I've always really enjoyed the few times I've sat down and played it."
halo 3 is most played game on xbox live after a year and 3 months......

yeah it gets boring REEEEEEAL quick"

...but I thought Call of Duty 4 was the most played game on Xbox Live. Anyway, this topic is entirely subjective and to treat it otherwise is stupid.


Post by Endogene (3,857 posts) See mini bio

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Counter strike is than not that game where every body plays that one desert map and the goal is to go the rush the same patch every time to the enemy hoping you get to shoot first?


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BiggerBomb said:
"crunchUK said:
"HelixSnake said:
"Halo 3 is okay, it gets really boring quick, though. I'd give TF2 a shot; plenty of people seem to really enjoy it, and I've always really enjoyed the few times I've sat down and played it."
halo 3 is most played game on xbox live after a year and 3 months......

yeah it gets boring REEEEEEAL quick"

...but I thought Call of Duty 4 was the most played game on Xbox Live. Anyway, this topic is entirely subjective and to treat it otherwise is stupid."
It was, than I think they released a new map pack and Halo 3 made a comeback. But yeah, this is in the PC forum, so to take it seriously would be a waste of everybody's time.





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