I was thinking about  HL 2 fans were disappointed that Left 4 dead 2 was gettting all of Valve's attention at e3 2009, instead of working on an episode 3 expansion to HL 2, but I was thinking that episode 3 sounds like a bad idea because its been over 2 years since episode 2 came out that if just another HL 2 expansion came out, it would not feel as innovative as it would have 2 years ago. I think Valve needs to take it up a notch after L4D 2 and make a full title Half Life 3 with improved graphics and drastically different alterations. What do you guys think?

i can run a HL2 expansion, i cant run whatever ungodly requirements HL3 will have

i am waiting to build a new pc for when half life 3 comes out

It's obvious that Valve is taking a liking to consoles for their upcoming games, so we're more than likely going to see HL3 on the 360—most definitely. To whether they will release Episode 3 or jump right into the third part is up to Mr. Newell.

episode 3 will be amazing

I'm sure Valve won't disappoint.

Episode 2 was nicely upgraded, but I do feel the Source engine is nearing the end of its optimal period.  It performs bad on older PCs now, and not so hot for the graphics level on consoles.
 
I'd rather see them put out a new engine, but I feel like that's something we'd be hearing about for a long time, we heard about the Source engine for a long time indeed before HL2 or anything else came out on it.

" Episode 2 was nicely upgraded, but I do feel the Source engine is nearing the end of its optimal period.  It performs bad on older PCs now, and not so hot for the graphics level on consoles.  I'd rather see them put out a new engine, but I feel like that's something we'd be hearing about for a long time, we heard about the Source engine for a long time indeed before HL2 or anything else came out on it. "

" @lemon360: how do you know? The whole game could be you Crowbar-ing boxes for 12 hours until you find the key that destroys whoever the enemy is. "

" @Diamond said:

" Episode 2 was nicely upgraded, but I do feel the Source engine is nearing the end of its optimal period.  It performs bad on older PCs now, and not so hot for the graphics level on consoles.  I'd rather see them put out a new engine, but I feel like that's something we'd be hearing about for a long time, we heard about the Source engine for a long time indeed before HL2 or anything else came out on it. "

They don't need a new engine yet. "Not so hot" for consoles? Alright, show me a console game with facial animation and emotion like HL2. Show me one with large-scale physics simulation like Episode Two. Show me one with the incredibly realistic lighting and shadowing Valve techniques has achieved. Show me a console game with the fluid, high-framerate artistic detail of TF2. In your search to do so you will end up with three games: Uncharted, MGS4, and Killzone 2 which have amazing individual elements, but Valve is the real industry leader of real time graphics design. They were the first to integrate true HDR into games that I know of, they are still completely unrivaled in humanistic animation, and in terms of art design, they were the developers who saw the faux-realism trend of Gears of War (with it's plastic-wrapped look) coming and decided to make a multiplayer shooter with graphics so vivid that screenshots of it looks pre-rendered, yet with a stylized design that makes it easy to tell what's happening on the screen. I'd say until the consoles catch up to Episode Two in terms of realism and TF2 in terms of art style, it's the console devs that have work to do, not Valve. "

A console game with facial animation and emotion like HL2?  Just about any of them...

I really think that the original Left 4 Dead should have been free.  Almost a demo of sorts.  At this point there would have been much more good will towards the new game, ect.
 
I am not sure if you are talking about Half-Life 2: Episode 3 or Half-Life 3, but I would really like them to finish up on the Half-Life 2 episodic trilogy.  I am sure they have already started work on the next engine, but it would be nice to see a game come out of it like Half-Life 3!

My grandchildren will probably love it.

" My grandchildren will probably love it. "

" My grandchildren will probably love it. "

I wouldn't care if they just released HL2:E3 as a book instead. I'm only interested in the story, really.

" @Sushbag said:

" @Diamond said:

" Episode 2 was nicely upgraded, but I do feel the Source engine is nearing the end of its optimal period.  It performs bad on older PCs now, and not so hot for the graphics level on consoles.  I'd rather see them put out a new engine, but I feel like that's something we'd be hearing about for a long time, we heard about the Source engine for a long time indeed before HL2 or anything else came out on it. "

 high-framerate artistic detail of TF2. "

Well I know your wrong about this, if you go on the steam TF2 boards, you'll see multiple threads about how the game runs bad on decent gaming machines. "