I think the gameplay footage pretty f*#%ing awesome, it's like Halo: CE on steroids. I'm just happy to see the Elites back as the primary enemy, they were such a fun enemy to fight and far better than the lame Brutes. The inclusion of Space battles is something I wanted since before Halo 3's release, they look like an epic mix of Star Fox 64 and Colony Wars. The game looks gorgeous, this is game looks just as good, if not, better than Gears of War 3.  I loved Firefight from ODST, but this looks far more chaotic and intense, and there's finally matchmaking for this mode for once. I was disappointed by the last three Halo titles, but this looks like to deliver on all of it's promises.
 
II reall for this game already, this and Crysis 2 are on my list of must have FPS of 2010.

It looks pretty good. What really made me excited was the space battle at the end. 

Its Halo. 
 
So no, I didn't watch it. I learnt my lesson from buying Halo 3. 'sigh' Never again.

" My mind grapes dribbled out two thought when I watched it.   1. "Yup. It's a Halo game."  2. "Oh ... space fights? That's cool I guess." "

" @drag said:

" My mind grapes dribbled out two thought when I watched it.   1. "Yup. It's a Halo game."  2. "Oh ... space fights? That's cool I guess." "

Well? What's wrong with that? If it wasn't Halo, then it wouldn't be Halo. It doesn't have to be another military and "realistic" military shooter like Call of Duty 4 or any of the other watered down military shooters that try to emulate it's success or it's godawful sequel. "

It's just another Halo. 
And it has a single Space Combat encounter thing. 
It's a Halo Game, with a hint of Battlefront 2. 
Seems alright, it's the first Halo game I'm willing to sit down and play with a couple of friends. 

Looks like outdated crap compared to other big titles out there, i mean just look at Rage or Killzone 3 and then look at Halo reach lolz. Gears 3 before it looked freaking awesome and then came Reach joke. But Halo boys will eat it all up no worries.

" @Spartan14003 said:

" @drag said:

" My mind grapes dribbled out two thought when I watched it.   1. "Yup. It's a Halo game."  2. "Oh ... space fights? That's cool I guess." "

Well? What's wrong with that? If it wasn't Halo, then it wouldn't be Halo. It doesn't have to be another military and "realistic" military shooter like Call of Duty 4 or any of the other watered down military shooters that try to emulate it's success or it's godawful sequel. "

Chances are you will not like what I say.  The halo games where milked to far. Along with most series that go beyond two games. CE was great. It was new and a bold move. Moving to ODST that was a rip off. You mostly just paid for Halo 3 maps and firefight. Halo reach seems like something that should have been made instead of ODST.  "

" @The_Laughing_Man said:

" @Spartan14003 said:

" @drag said:

" My mind grapes dribbled out two thought when I watched it.   1. "Yup. It's a Halo game."  2. "Oh ... space fights? That's cool I guess." "

Well? What's wrong with that? If it wasn't Halo, then it wouldn't be Halo. It doesn't have to be another military and "realistic" military shooter like Call of Duty 4 or any of the other watered down military shooters that try to emulate it's success or it's godawful sequel. "

Chances are you will not like what I say.  The halo games where milked to far. Along with most series that go beyond two games. CE was great. It was new and a bold move. Moving to ODST that was a rip off. You mostly just paid for Halo 3 maps and firefight. Halo reach seems like something that should have been made instead of ODST.  "

Of course Halo is more milked than the Call of Duty series, look at the results:  2001: Halo: Combat Evolved 2003: Halo: Combat Evolved (PC Port) 2004: Halo 2 2007: Halo 3 2009: Halo Wars and Halo 3 ODST 2010: Halo Reach  Now let us look and compare with the non-milked Call of Duty franchise:  2003: Call of Duty 2004: Call of Duty: United Offensive and Call of Duty Finest Hour 2005: Call of Duty 2 and Call of Duty 2: Big Red One 2006: Call of Duty 3 2007: Call of Duty 4 and Call of Duty: Roads to Victory2008: Call of Duty World at War 2009: Modern Warfare 2 and Modern Warfare 2 Mobilized2010: Call of Duty: Black Ops  As you can clearly see, Halo is more milked than Call of Duty.  In all seriousness, Halo is being milked but it's one of the least milked popular game franchises. "

" Looks like outdated crap compared to other big titles out there, i mean just look at Rage or Killzone 3 and then look at Halo reach lolz. Gears 3 before it looked freaking awesome and then came Reach joke. But Halo boys will eat it all up no worries. "

" @Globox82 said:

" Looks like outdated crap compared to other big titles out there, i mean just look at Rage or Killzone 3 and then look at Halo reach lolz. Gears 3 before it looked freaking awesome and then came Reach joke. But Halo boys will eat it all up no worries. "

Killzone 3 looks like Killzone 2 but in a snowy setting, how riveting... Not to mention that Killzone 2 was just another watered down military shooter that's disguised in a futuristic setting and it was only slightly better than Modern Warfare 2... that's not saying much. Killzone 3 doesn't look any different, but don't worry, all of the Killzone boys will eat it up.  I will agree with you on Rage, but you're still a bit of a dick. "

" @Spartan14003 said:

" @The_Laughing_Man said:

" @Spartan14003 said:

" @drag said:

" My mind grapes dribbled out two thought when I watched it.   1. "Yup. It's a Halo game."  2. "Oh ... space fights? That's cool I guess." "

Well? What's wrong with that? If it wasn't Halo, then it wouldn't be Halo. It doesn't have to be another military and "realistic" military shooter like Call of Duty 4 or any of the other watered down military shooters that try to emulate it's success or it's godawful sequel. "

Chances are you will not like what I say.  The halo games where milked to far. Along with most series that go beyond two games. CE was great. It was new and a bold move. Moving to ODST that was a rip off. You mostly just paid for Halo 3 maps and firefight. Halo reach seems like something that should have been made instead of ODST.  "

Of course Halo is more milked than the Call of Duty series, look at the results:  2001: Halo: Combat Evolved 2003: Halo: Combat Evolved (PC Port) 2004: Halo 2 2007: Halo 3 2009: Halo Wars and Halo 3 ODST 2010: Halo Reach  Now let us look and compare with the non-milked Call of Duty franchise:  2003: Call of Duty 2004: Call of Duty: United Offensive and Call of Duty Finest Hour 2005: Call of Duty 2 and Call of Duty 2: Big Red One 2006: Call of Duty 3 2007: Call of Duty 4 and Call of Duty: Roads to Victory2008: Call of Duty World at War 2009: Modern Warfare 2 and Modern Warfare 2 Mobilized2010: Call of Duty: Black Ops  As you can clearly see, Halo is more milked than Call of Duty.  In all seriousness, Halo is being milked but it's one of the least milked popular game franchises. "

 The halo games where milked to far. Along with most series that go beyond two games.   I never called out halo by its self. Read my post.   "

• Street Fighter
• Pac-Man
• Sonic
• Mario
• Final Fantasy
• Tony Hawk
• Call of Duty

I thought it was brilliant, it was definitely my game of E3 and fuck the haters.

" @Spartan14003 said:

" @drag said:

" My mind grapes dribbled out two thought when I watched it.   1. "Yup. It's a Halo game."  2. "Oh ... space fights? That's cool I guess." "

Well? What's wrong with that? If it wasn't Halo, then it wouldn't be Halo. It doesn't have to be another military and "realistic" military shooter like Call of Duty 4 or any of the other watered down military shooters that try to emulate it's success or it's godawful sequel. "

Nothing wrong with it if you like Halo ... I don't, so that is what happened inside my poor brain shortly after the video poured in through my eye holes. Then, slightly interested because I think the whole space-shooter genre has died a death and I'd like to play a good one, or a game with good space shootery bits in it ... then not interested again when I found out it was only 1 mission in the whole game. Boo. And ... no ... of course it doesn't have to be another military shooter :/ that would be an awful idea for everyone even distantly involved. "

" I thought it was brilliant, it was definitely my game of E3 and fuck the haters. "

" @drag said:

" @Spartan14003 said:

" @drag said:

" My mind grapes dribbled out two thought when I watched it.   1. "Yup. It's a Halo game."  2. "Oh ... space fights? That's cool I guess." "

Well? What's wrong with that? If it wasn't Halo, then it wouldn't be Halo. It doesn't have to be another military and "realistic" military shooter like Call of Duty 4 or any of the other watered down military shooters that try to emulate it's success or it's godawful sequel. "

Nothing wrong with it if you like Halo ... I don't, so that is what happened inside my poor brain shortly after the video poured in through my eye holes. Then, slightly interested because I think the whole space-shooter genre has died a death and I'd like to play a good one, or a game with good space shootery bits in it ... then not interested again when I found out it was only 1 mission in the whole game. Boo. And ... no ... of course it doesn't have to be another military shooter :/ that would be an awful idea for everyone even distantly involved. "

Bungie was just teasing us and they said there would be more unexpected surprise later. "

" @Spartan14003 said:

" @drag said:

" @Spartan14003 said:

" @drag said:

" My mind grapes dribbled out two thought when I watched it.   1. "Yup. It's a Halo game."  2. "Oh ... space fights? That's cool I guess." "

Well? What's wrong with that? If it wasn't Halo, then it wouldn't be Halo. It doesn't have to be another military and "realistic" military shooter like Call of Duty 4 or any of the other watered down military shooters that try to emulate it's success or it's godawful sequel. "

Nothing wrong with it if you like Halo ... I don't, so that is what happened inside my poor brain shortly after the video poured in through my eye holes. Then, slightly interested because I think the whole space-shooter genre has died a death and I'd like to play a good one, or a game with good space shootery bits in it ... then not interested again when I found out it was only 1 mission in the whole game. Boo. And ... no ... of course it doesn't have to be another military shooter :/ that would be an awful idea for everyone even distantly involved. "

Bungie was just teasing us and they said there would be more unexpected surprise later. "

Hahaha, you really think that "OH LOOK! A SECOND SPACE COMBAT MISSION!" is gonna be one of their "unexpected surprises" ?  Think out of the box, ok.  I know you're a big fan of the series, but damn dude.  Get real for once :P "

I didn't think much. I was surprised about the space combat, but its not like its anything I haven't seen before. I played the beta, so the gameplay wasn't really new to me. Halo isn't bad, but I've played all but the first and halo wars, but always on somebody else's xbox.

" @Agent47CSim2 said:

" I thought it was brilliant, it was definitely my game of E3 and fuck the haters. "

Indeed, fuck the haters. Not the people who disliked the footage, the haters. Remember folks, there's a difference between the two. "

" @ZeForgotten said:

" @Spartan14003 said:

" @drag said:

" @Spartan14003 said:

" @drag said:

" My mind grapes dribbled out two thought when I watched it.   1. "Yup. It's a Halo game."  2. "Oh ... space fights? That's cool I guess." "

Well? What's wrong with that? If it wasn't Halo, then it wouldn't be Halo. It doesn't have to be another military and "realistic" military shooter like Call of Duty 4 or any of the other watered down military shooters that try to emulate it's success or it's godawful sequel. "

Nothing wrong with it if you like Halo ... I don't, so that is what happened inside my poor brain shortly after the video poured in through my eye holes. Then, slightly interested because I think the whole space-shooter genre has died a death and I'd like to play a good one, or a game with good space shootery bits in it ... then not interested again when I found out it was only 1 mission in the whole game. Boo. And ... no ... of course it doesn't have to be another military shooter :/ that would be an awful idea for everyone even distantly involved. "

Bungie was just teasing us and they said there would be more unexpected surprise later. "

Hahaha, you really think that "OH LOOK! A SECOND SPACE COMBAT MISSION!" is gonna be one of their "unexpected surprises" ?  Think out of the box, ok.  I know you're a big fan of the series, but damn dude.  Get real for once :P "

Dude, Bungie stated that there's only one Space Combat scenario in th game. The game won't allow any more after that, I actually do my research before I let out the inner fanboy within me thank you. "

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" @Spartan14003 said:

" @Agent47CSim2 said:

" I thought it was brilliant, it was definitely my game of E3 and fuck the haters. "

Indeed, fuck the haters. Not the people who disliked the footage, the haters. Remember folks, there's a difference between the two. "

What? Are you being sarcastic? I can't tell.  "

I really liked the almost concept art type look it had, especially the skyboxes. 
The gameplay looked like halo which I still enjoy. 
When the space battle first started I got really excited but after a moment it just looked really slow and limited in movement. Looked pretty though. 
I thought the transition between ground and space was really awesome aswell. 
I hope they do more one off things like the space combat in the game

" @Agent47CSim2 said:

" @Spartan14003 said:

" @Agent47CSim2 said:

" I thought it was brilliant, it was definitely my game of E3 and fuck the haters. "

Indeed, fuck the haters. Not the people who disliked the footage, the haters. Remember folks, there's a difference between the two. "

What? Are you being sarcastic? I can't tell.  "

No, if someone says: "I wasn't impressed, I didn't like it". That's perfectly okay for them to say that. However, if someone expressed it like this: "Gaylo Reach Around looks teh same! Gaylo fanboys is gonna eat itz up! Modern Warfare 2 PWNS Gaylo! HUR HUR HUR HUR!" Then they really need to GTFO for intentionally trying  to stir up flamewars and internet drama. "

" @Spartan14003 said:

" @ZeForgotten said:

" @Spartan14003 said:

" @drag said:

" @Spartan14003 said:

" @drag said:

" My mind grapes dribbled out two thought when I watched it.   1. "Yup. It's a Halo game."  2. "Oh ... space fights? That's cool I guess." "

Well? What's wrong with that? If it wasn't Halo, then it wouldn't be Halo. It doesn't have to be another military and "realistic" military shooter like Call of Duty 4 or any of the other watered down military shooters that try to emulate it's success or it's godawful sequel. "

Nothing wrong with it if you like Halo ... I don't, so that is what happened inside my poor brain shortly after the video poured in through my eye holes. Then, slightly interested because I think the whole space-shooter genre has died a death and I'd like to play a good one, or a game with good space shootery bits in it ... then not interested again when I found out it was only 1 mission in the whole game. Boo. And ... no ... of course it doesn't have to be another military shooter :/ that would be an awful idea for everyone even distantly involved. "

Bungie was just teasing us and they said there would be more unexpected surprise later. "

Hahaha, you really think that "OH LOOK! A SECOND SPACE COMBAT MISSION!" is gonna be one of their "unexpected surprises" ?  Think out of the box, ok.  I know you're a big fan of the series, but damn dude.  Get real for once :P "

Dude, Bungie stated that there's only one Space Combat scenario in th game. The game won't allow any more after that, I actually do my research before I let out the inner fanboy within me thank you. "

They stated that, and I clarified it with them when I was there.  It's my job, I was just saying that there are no surprises in the game that will make peoples fussy little heads explode. It's a Space Combat mission, and probably a "OMG LOOK! It's MCs underpants!" somewhere in a locker or something.  But there's nothing wrong with being a fanboy, just don't be ashamed to admit it, it only shows that you're not sure that your favorite game is actually any good.  "

" Looks like outdated crap compared to other big titles out there, i mean just look at Rage or Killzone 3 and then look at Halo reach lolz. Gears 3 before it looked freaking awesome and then came Reach joke. But Halo boys will eat it all up no worries. "

I really, really don't understand Halo hate and how people say it's "milked". I can think of so many other examples of games that are milked far more. The difference with Halo is that Bungie has been loyal to it's fans and they don't release games like 5+ years after each other. Yet because of that fact, people misinterpret that as being "milked". So what if a completely different studio made an RTS? Are you going to say that Silent Hill franchise is being milked too? Those games are always switching developers yet I'd hardly call them milked.  
  
Also, the pricing of ODST was not Bungie, it was MGS. They are the publishers. 
 
Halo Hate is just a bandwagon that is easy to jump on because it's cool to hate things that are popular. That's as simple as it is.

" @Globox82 said:

" Looks like outdated crap compared to other big titles out there, i mean just look at Rage or Killzone 3 and then look at Halo reach lolz. Gears 3 before it looked freaking awesome and then came Reach joke. But Halo boys will eat it all up no worries. "

I'm honestly not sure how you can critisize Halo but then praise Killzone, when it's always been nothing but a second rate immitation.  It's the dictionary definition of a Halo clone, and offers nothing original or even interesting.  Besides rather pretty graphics.   I'm also not sure what looked outdated about it.  It doesn't use scripted encounters and scenes the way games like Call of Duty does, and instead features large encounters with advanced A.I. which in my opinion makes the gameplay a lot more fun, especially on co-op.  It means every enemey encounter plays out differently, each time you play it.  Unlike say Call of Duty where you know where each enemey will be and what will happen once you've played it once.  The fact it doesn't have duck and cover gameplay is actually a point in it's advantage, in my opinion.Also have to point out that being a fanboy for something else is no better than being a fanboy for Halo.  You're just making yourself look stupid. "

" @Spartan14003: So being a bigger fan of a specific franchise is no good because some internet jobber says so? That's kinda sad, not being able to like a game a little more than others.  Sorry to hear that  "

I thought it looked pretty cool.  Haters gonna hate, and Reach will end up being one of the best shooters of the year.

It was good, I just wish there would be quite an in-depth space combat element to it, not just a single section. I get the feeling they might be holding out for a spin-off with that theme. Still, that hasn't been done in a while, might be fun!

I was content to let Reach pass by without giving it a second thought, given that I could not endure past the half way mark of the borefest that was ODST. 
 
Then I saw the space battles. 
 
I gave it a second thought.

Bungie has been releasing the same game with minimal improvements for 4 games now...what makes this one any different?

let me just say NO NO NO NO its still Halo nothing was changed and im sick of halo already let that game die its becoming like mortal kombat

" let me just say NO NO NO NO its still Halo nothing was changed and im sick of halo already let that game die its becoming like mortal kombat "

I'm never particularly impressed with Halo in video form.
Those games have always been about how they play for me.

" Bungie has been releasing the same game with minimal improvements for 4 games now...what makes this one any different? "

• Replaced health bars with regenerating health
• Duel-wielding 
• Melee lunge
• The ability to hi-jack vehicles
• The ability to play as a Elite (In the campaign, The Arbiter has the ability to cloak unlike the Master Chief)
• You can jump higher and move faster
• You can't take fall damage
• Xbox-Live multi-player
• New enemies, such as the Drones and Brutes
• Of course: New weapons and vehicles
• Plays more like Unreal Tournament than opposed to Halo: CE's Counter-Strike feel

• The ability to rip-off turrets from their tripods
• Forge
• Theatre Mode
• More variety in the level design
• Four player co-op
• The elites are replaced by Brutes as the primary enemies (Unfortunately)
• Interactive scarab battles
• Stronger melee attacks 
• Equipment items

• It's an RTS for consoles

• You're an ODST instead of a Spartan (Makes things tactical)
• Health bars are back
• Melee isn't as strong as the Spartan's melee attacks
• Open world night time exploration
• No duel-wielding
• Firefight 

" @WinterSnowblind: I never said I didn't care about the series. I just said that Reach was the only game I was willing to sit down and play with a couple of friends.  I also have never said that there was nothing good about the games either.   I have said that there was nothing new, and I stick with that. Everything Halo has done we've actually seen many times before "

"i don't think that video matters. we know how the game is going to play, we played the beta, they're not going to change it and it's going to be crap. "

" @Kahoona said:

" Bungie has been releasing the same game with minimal improvements for 4 games now...what makes this one any different? "

Have you actually beaten the campaign in all of them ? They're keep the same feeling but make some improvements and changes . 
 
For example: 
 
Halo 2: 
 

• Replaced health bars with regenerating health
• Duel-wielding 
• Melee lunge
• The ability to hi-jack vehicles
• The ability to play as a Elite (In the campaign, The Arbiter has the ability to cloak unlike the Master Chief)
• You can jump higher and move faster
• You can't take fall damage
• Xbox-Live multi-player
• New enemies, such as the Drones and Brutes
• Of course: New weapons and vehicles
• Plays more like Unreal Tournament than opposed to Halo: CE's Counter-Strike feel

 
Halo 3:  

 

• The ability to rip-off turrets from their tripods
• Forge
• Theatre Mode
• More variety in the level design
• Four player co-op
• The elites are replaced by Brutes as the primary enemies (Unfortunately)
• Interactive scarab battles
• Stronger melee attacks 
• Equipment items

 
Halo Wars: 

 

• It's an RTS for consoles

 
Halo 3 ODST: 

 

• You're an ODST instead of a Spartan (Makes things tactical)
• Health bars are back
• Melee isn't as strong as the Spartan's melee attacks
• Open world night time exploration
• No duel-wielding
• Firefight 

 
They all feel like Halo, but add a few new stuff to keep it fresh and familiar, like 90% of most video game sequels. Despite Halo 3's campaign and story being nothing more than lackluster, Scarab battles were pretty awesome though.

"

" @Spartan14003 said:

" @Kahoona said:

" Bungie has been releasing the same game with minimal improvements for 4 games now...what makes this one any different? "

Have you actually beaten the campaign in all of them ? They're keep the same feeling but make some improvements and changes . 
 
For example: 
 
Halo 2: 
 

• Replaced health bars with regenerating health
• Duel-wielding 
• Melee lunge
• The ability to hi-jack vehicles
• The ability to play as a Elite (In the campaign, The Arbiter has the ability to cloak unlike the Master Chief)
• You can jump higher and move faster
• You can't take fall damage
• Xbox-Live multi-player
• New enemies, such as the Drones and Brutes
• Of course: New weapons and vehicles
• Plays more like Unreal Tournament than opposed to Halo: CE's Counter-Strike feel

 
Halo 3:  

 

• The ability to rip-off turrets from their tripods
• Forge
• Theatre Mode
• More variety in the level design
• Four player co-op
• The elites are replaced by Brutes as the primary enemies (Unfortunately)
• Interactive scarab battles
• Stronger melee attacks 
• Equipment items

 
Halo Wars: 

 

• It's an RTS for consoles

 
Halo 3 ODST: 

 

• You're an ODST instead of a Spartan (Makes things tactical)
• Health bars are back
• Melee isn't as strong as the Spartan's melee attacks
• Open world night time exploration
• No duel-wielding
• Firefight 

 
They all feel like Halo, but add a few new stuff to keep it fresh and familiar, like 90% of most video game sequels. Despite Halo 3's campaign and story being nothing more than lackluster, Scarab battles were pretty awesome though.

"

ODST had stamina and health. Stamina pretty much being shields.  "

I thought it was awesome. Seeing how Halo CE is still my all time favorite single player FPS experience and Reach seeming to be like that, I look forward to it.

same shit....