Something went wrong. Try again later
    Follow

    Harmonix Music Systems

    Company »

    Harmonix Music Systems are the creative developers behind many music / rhythm games. They were founded on March 1, 1995 in Cambridge Massachusetts by Alex Rigopulos and Eran Egozy. They were acquired by Epic Games in November 2021.

    Bummer, Harmonix experiences more Layoffs

    • 62 results
    • 1
    • 2
    Avatar image for unclebenny
    UncleBenny

    756

    Forum Posts

    80

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 6

    Per Polygon

    Harmonix Music Systems laid off 37 full-time employees today, and Alex Rigopulos, CEO and co-founder of the studio, is moving into a new management role, a representative for the company confirmed to Polygon today.

    37 folks got laid off, Alex Rigapulos steps down as CEO (although he'll remain as "Creative Director"), and Chroma goes back to the drawing board, according to this Game Informer Article.

    Ugh, this news is especially sad since they pimped so hard to finally get that Amplitude Kickstarter. They used to have around 200+ people working there during the Guitar Hero/Rockband days. How many people are left now?

    Avatar image for fear_the_booboo
    Fear_the_Booboo

    1228

    Forum Posts

    0

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 3

    What a freaking bummer. I hope they get better jobs soon.

    Avatar image for corevi
    Corevi

    6796

    Forum Posts

    391

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 4

    I'm not a big rhythm game guy but Chroma being scrapped is really dissapointing. Makes sense though considering they were pooling all their resources into a game for a now nonexistent accessory.

    Avatar image for nightriff
    nightriff

    7248

    Forum Posts

    1467

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 4

    User Lists: 7

    It would have to have been higher if the kick starter wasn't a success right?

    Avatar image for freakin9
    freakin9

    1226

    Forum Posts

    0

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 0

    #5  Edited By freakin9

    Not surprising, they are a little too "all in" with the Kinect.

    And now Kinect is going the way of the dodo.

    And to be frank, I doubt making games for Kinect was ever that lucrative, unless Microsoft pays devs a bonus for making games for the thing, which seems likely.

    Avatar image for toowalrus
    toowalrus

    13408

    Forum Posts

    29

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 3

    Damn shame. The personalities there are fantastic, it's too bad that's not how they make their money. Maybe those dance central games weren't as successful as I thought they were.

    Avatar image for mister_v
    Mister_V

    2506

    Forum Posts

    53

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 2

    #7  Edited By Mister_V

    @toowalrus said:

    Damn shame. The personalities there are fantastic, it's too bad that's not how they make their money. Maybe those dance central games weren't as successful as I thought they were.

    This. I love the folks at harmonix but i have zero interest in any of their games. I suspect i'm not the only one.

    Hope the people who got laid off find work quickly.

    Avatar image for unclebenny
    UncleBenny

    756

    Forum Posts

    80

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 6

    It would have to have been higher if the kick starter wasn't a success right?

    I imagine that'd be true, then again, I think that they barely reached the kickstarter goal probably made them examine their main creative model of music rhythm based games.

    Man, I bet it's fucking depressing in the Harmonix office right now. Let's just send them good wishes.

    Avatar image for elwoodan
    Elwoodan

    1098

    Forum Posts

    1008

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 1

    User Lists: 2

    @toowalrus: Alex Rigapulos gave a talk about the history of Harmonix at PAXeast earlier this year and he mentioned that while rockband/dance central sold really well they were expensive to make, and the company was struggling before those came out so they owed a lot of money in loans and ultimately they mostly just broke even.

    While i've not always been super interested in Harmonix games (with the exception of Rockband) it's sad to see a company that takes such cool creative risks struggle like this.

    Avatar image for bradbrains
    BradBrains

    2277

    Forum Posts

    583

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 0

    #10  Edited By BradBrains

    No surprises they said as much whe. The kick starter starter

    Avatar image for psychopenguin
    PsychoPenguin

    233

    Forum Posts

    214

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 0

    #11  Edited By PsychoPenguin

    Yeah, this isn't that surprising considering they're wrapping up Disney Fantasia and can't seem to secure funding for future titles. I'm sure publishers are being scared off now that the kinect is no longer in every xbox one and the best rhythm game they can come up with that uses a normal controller is a remake of a game that wasn't a big success the first time around. Their first person shooter idea, Chroma is also in dire straits and is being redesigned as well.

    I feel bad for the people losing their jobs and I hope that Harmonix is able to pull through this rough patch.

    Avatar image for freakin9
    freakin9

    1226

    Forum Posts

    0

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 0

    @elwoodan said:

    @toowalrus: Alex Rigapulos gave a talk about the history of Harmonix at PAXeast earlier this year and he mentioned that while rockband/dance central sold really well they were expensive to make, and the company was struggling before those came out so they owed a lot of money in loans and ultimately they mostly just broke even.

    While i've not always been super interested in Harmonix games (with the exception of Rockband) it's sad to see a company that takes such cool creative risks struggle like this.

    Yes, they didn't have the benefit of pirating the music in their games. The music industry still has the power to bleed professionals that want to use their music dry. Even if they don't have that power anymore with the general public.

    Avatar image for mister_v
    Mister_V

    2506

    Forum Posts

    53

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 2

    Yeah, this isn't that surprising considering they're wrapping up Disney Infinity and can't seem to secure funding for future titles. I'm sure publishers are being scared off now that the kinect is no longer in every xbox one and the best rhythm game they can come up with that uses a normal controller is a remake of a game that wasn't a big success the first time around. Their first person shooter idea, Chroma is also in dire straights and is being redesigned as well.

    I feel bad for the people losing their jobs and I hope that Harmonix is able to pull through this rough patch.

    You mean Fantasia?

    Infinity is Avalanche.

    Avatar image for psychopenguin
    PsychoPenguin

    233

    Forum Posts

    214

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 0

    Avatar image for thehbk
    TheHBK

    5674

    Forum Posts

    0

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 3

    User Lists: 6

    If they had good ideas that would make money, they wouldn't be in this situation.

    Avatar image for ripelivejam
    ripelivejam

    13572

    Forum Posts

    0

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 0

    man this hits a little too close to home in a way, but i guess it was the same with Rich Gallup a couple years back.

    hope the ones affected all land on their feet soon. i'll have a diet coke in their honor.

    Avatar image for brendan
    Brendan

    9414

    Forum Posts

    533

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 7

    #17  Edited By Brendan

    @thehbk: That's obviously subjective, but if you look at the critical reception to their products they almost never make a game that isn't widely considered to be very good.

    Not the money part of course.

    Avatar image for fear_the_booboo
    Fear_the_Booboo

    1228

    Forum Posts

    0

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 3

    Thinking about it, it might explain why they did their kickstarter to meet their internal schedule. Maybe if it had been more successful there would be no layoff.

    I remember Tim Schafer saying that if the kickstarter had not been this successful they would have done cut in personel too.

    It's super shitty anyway.

    Avatar image for samaritan
    Samaritan

    1730

    Forum Posts

    575

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 1

    User Lists: 4

    My bet is a lot of these guys were working on Kinect projects and the news about the $399 Xbone killed the project.

    Avatar image for unclebenny
    UncleBenny

    756

    Forum Posts

    80

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 6

    I wonder if Harmonix is in the middle of doing a "Double Fine shift" where instead of one or two large music games, they will start branching out and make a bunch of different music oriented games. They already have Record Run and Amplitude, and since they seem to have a (from appearance) fairly music oriented staff maybe they should focus on making a bunch of small music rhythm based games... well, whatever, that's way easier said than done.

    I'd play a castlevania style platformer starring John T Drake though.

    Loading Video...

    Avatar image for professoress
    ProfessorEss

    7962

    Forum Posts

    160

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 11

    #21  Edited By ProfessorEss

    @mister_v said:

    @toowalrus said:

    Damn shame. The personalities there are fantastic, it's too bad that's not how they make their money. Maybe those dance central games weren't as successful as I thought they were.

    This. I love the folks at harmonix but i have zero interest in any of their games. I suspect i'm not the only one.

    I'm the opposite. I don't personally know anyone who works at Harmonix but I love their games.

    Dance Central was a generation defining game for me and is the only exclusive with the potential to make me buy an entire new console for. Anything that hurts the possibility or potential quality of a Harmonix-ass-Harmonix Dance Central sequel SERIOUSLY bums me out.

    (...and yeah, Fantasia was never going to make that money back with or without MS's recent Kinect announcement)

    Avatar image for wrighteous86
    wrighteous86

    4036

    Forum Posts

    3673

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 5

    User Lists: 1

    Damn you Microsoft!!1!

    Avatar image for mike
    mike

    18011

    Forum Posts

    23067

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: -1

    User Lists: 6

    I wonder if this is the reason why Harmonix ran their kickstarter for such a short period of time...it would make sense to get that over with before layoffs were announced, investors would be a lot less likely to give a company money after a huge layoff.

    The timing is very suspect.

    Avatar image for gamer_152
    gamer_152

    15032

    Forum Posts

    74588

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 71

    User Lists: 6

    #24  Edited By gamer_152  Moderator

    Ouch. This is the reality of these jobs but I feel for everyone laid off there.

    Avatar image for hailinel
    Hailinel

    25785

    Forum Posts

    219681

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 10

    User Lists: 28

    Makes me wonder if they'll be able to actually finish Amplitude at this rate, but my condolences go to those that lost their jobs.

    Avatar image for rongalaxy
    RonGalaxy

    4937

    Forum Posts

    48

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 1

    User Lists: 1

    Well, it was just announced that EA shut down mythic entertainment... todays a bummer........

    Source

    Avatar image for gold_skulltulla
    Gold_Skulltulla

    329

    Forum Posts

    169

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 36

    User Lists: 0

    @mb: Probably more likely that there would have been more layoffs if the Kickstarter was unsuccessful. Have to imagine they weren't going to make staffing cuts without knowing what their budget and workload was going to be.

    Avatar image for turboman
    turboman

    10064

    Forum Posts

    19

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 23

    User Lists: 11

    This is depressing news, I'm guessing people knew their jobs were about to be over once they saw that Amplitude wasn't doing huge numbers on Kickstarter.

    Avatar image for slag
    Slag

    8308

    Forum Posts

    15965

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 8

    User Lists: 45

    @hailinel said:

    Makes me wonder if they'll be able to actually finish Amplitude at this rate, but my condolences go to those that lost their jobs.

    I kind of assumed they knew this was coming beforehand (maybe a question of how many not if), hence the kickstarter as a last ditch effort to save as many jobs as possible.

    My guess is they will finish Amplitude.

    Avatar image for senrat
    senrat

    359

    Forum Posts

    0

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 0

    The music/rhythm genre went from niche to mainstream and is now returning to niche, layoffs are inevitable in this situation. They need to create something new and creative like they did with guitar hero and rock band.

    Avatar image for mike
    mike

    18011

    Forum Posts

    23067

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: -1

    User Lists: 6

    @slag: Of course they knew this was coming...maybe only the executives and HR, but they knew. Layoffs like this aren't planned and executed within a week or two.

    Avatar image for fisk0
    fisk0

    7321

    Forum Posts

    74197

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 75

    #32  Edited By fisk0  Moderator

    @narujoe93 said:

    Well, it was just announced that EA shut down mythic entertainment... todays a bummer........

    Source

    I thought that happened long ago, so that was kinda surprising to me. Warhammer Online was shut down last year, the new Dungeon Keeper doesn't seem to have been a success, and Mythic's old titles Ultima Online and Dark Age of Camelot have been in the hands of another developer for quite a while - Broadsword Online Games.

    But I guess Mythic were the ones who brought EA games to GOG, the latest being SimCity 4, which was released earlier today, so I wonder what'll happen with that in the future.

    Avatar image for Levius
    Levius

    1358

    Forum Posts

    357

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 2

    While its not really surprising, big rhythm and kinect games pretty much dead at the moment, I feel sorry for anyone who is affected. It think the kickstarter was a little misjudged though, a big part of the advertising of it was showing a happy, functional studio, which is a little contrary to the reality. I don't think they should be condemned for it, but I think I would be a little perturbed if I was a backer.

    Avatar image for unclebenny
    UncleBenny

    756

    Forum Posts

    80

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 6

    @fisk0 said:

    @narujoe93 said:

    Well, it was just announced that EA shut down mythic entertainment... todays a bummer........

    Source

    I thought that happened long ago, so that was kinda surprising to me. Warhammer Online was shut down last year, the new Dungeon Keeper doesn't seem to have been a success, and Mythic's old titles Ultima Online and Dark Age of Camelot have been in the hands of another developer for quite a while - Broadsword Online Games.

    But I guess Mythic were the ones who brought EA games to GOG, the latest being SimCity 4, which was released earlier today, so I wonder what'll happen with that in the future.

    WHOA, doesn't Paul Barnett and Carrie Gouskos work primarily for EA Mythic?

    Avatar image for mister_v
    Mister_V

    2506

    Forum Posts

    53

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 2

    @fisk0 said:

    @narujoe93 said:

    Well, it was just announced that EA shut down mythic entertainment... todays a bummer........

    Source

    I thought that happened long ago, so that was kinda surprising to me. Warhammer Online was shut down last year, the new Dungeon Keeper doesn't seem to have been a success, and Mythic's old titles Ultima Online and Dark Age of Camelot have been in the hands of another developer for quite a while - Broadsword Online Games.

    But I guess Mythic were the ones who brought EA games to GOG, the latest being SimCity 4, which was released earlier today, so I wonder what'll happen with that in the future.

    WHOA, doesn't Paul Barnett and Carrie Gouskos work primarily for EA Mythic?

    Paul is General manager. Carrie is head of studio operations.

    Avatar image for fisk0
    fisk0

    7321

    Forum Posts

    74197

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 75

    #36 fisk0  Moderator

    @fisk0 said:

    @narujoe93 said:

    Well, it was just announced that EA shut down mythic entertainment... todays a bummer........

    Source

    I thought that happened long ago, so that was kinda surprising to me. Warhammer Online was shut down last year, the new Dungeon Keeper doesn't seem to have been a success, and Mythic's old titles Ultima Online and Dark Age of Camelot have been in the hands of another developer for quite a while - Broadsword Online Games.

    But I guess Mythic were the ones who brought EA games to GOG, the latest being SimCity 4, which was released earlier today, so I wonder what'll happen with that in the future.

    WHOA, doesn't Paul Barnett and Carrie Gouskos work primarily for EA Mythic?

    Yeah, Barnett was involved in the getting-games-to-GOG stuff (as well as helping Wing Commander CIC with archiving the Wing Commander source code and design documents), so I really hope he'll be around somewhere at EA making sure their vast library of classic games won't get lost to time (since EA themselves, judging by the handling of the Battlefield series and that stuff, seem to have little interest in the back catalog).

    Avatar image for fobwashed
    fobwashed

    2818

    Forum Posts

    388

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 15

    User Lists: 16

    I'm not a big rhythm game guy but Chroma being scrapped is really dissapointing. Makes sense though considering they were pooling all their resources into a game for a now nonexistent accessory.

    I didn't know Chroma was cancelled. That really sucks... =[

    Avatar image for winsord
    winsord

    1642

    Forum Posts

    86

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 13

    I'd imagine this mostly has to do with Chroma, and maybe Record Run now that that's out. In the email they sent out regarding the end of the closed early alpha a day or two ago, they said they'd be doing some major retooling to the game, but it sounded like they'd just be going back to work.

    Based on the terrific feedback we got from all of you in the community, as well as our own analysis, we have concluded that Chroma will need some substantial retooling to be the game we want it to be. We remain passionately committed to the high-level vision, and we think there are some very successful mechanics and systems in the existing build. The team has, in fact, already started prototyping new directions for the game based on those successful mechanics. We look forward to sharing more with you down the line, as Chroma evolves in new directions.

    As an aside, I also think this kind of shows how ridiculous the "Harmonix shouldn't be doing a Kickstarter" arguments were. I don't imagine most people would use Kickstarter if they could avoid it, and for a company the size of Harmonix it always seemed more a sign of financial trouble, in addition to uncertainty regarding the pertinence, relevance and current value of an old IP. As always, I wish everyone the best who was laid off, and hopefully they can find new work soon.

    Avatar image for sil3n7
    Sil3n7

    1512

    Forum Posts

    1540

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 3

    @corruptedevil said:

    I'm not a big rhythm game guy but Chroma being scrapped is really dissapointing. Makes sense though considering they were pooling all their resources into a game for a now nonexistent accessory.

    I didn't know Chroma was cancelled. That really sucks... =[

    Chroma isn't canceled from what I have read. It is being "brought back to the drawing board"

    Avatar image for foggen
    Foggen

    1181

    Forum Posts

    2010

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 6

    #40  Edited By Foggen

    I didn't back the Kickstarter because I never really liked Frequency, but if I had done so I would now feel like I had been taken advantage of, especially if anything happened to Drake or Pope. All of the shits I give about Harmonix revolve around those guys.

    Avatar image for splodge
    splodge

    3309

    Forum Posts

    0

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 0

    @foggen said:

    I didn't back the Kickstarter because I never really liked Frequency, but if I had done so I would now feel like I had been taken advantage of, especially if anything happened to Drake or Pope. All of the shits I give about Harmonix revolve around those guys.

    The success of the Kickstarter is more than likely the only reason they could keep their jobs.

    Avatar image for rockyraccoon37
    RockyRaccoon37

    546

    Forum Posts

    0

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 4

    Again, it's a bummer to hear about layoffs, but would we really care if a couple of people from the studio weren't inside-jokey "friends of the site"?

    Yes.

    Good to know what kind of person you are though.

    Avatar image for unclebenny
    UncleBenny

    756

    Forum Posts

    80

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 6

    #44  Edited By UncleBenny

    This just came in from the amplitude kickstarter update:

    It's possible that many of you have read the news regarding recent restructuring at Harmonix, which has led to us say goodbye to a number of talented colleagues and folks we consider friends. 

    We realize that many of our supporters might have some questions regarding how this might affect Amplitude, and we would like to quickly take the time to address those concerns.  

    Thanks to the amazing outpouring of support for the Amplitude project, we were able to reach a Kickstarter goal that would enable us to support the development staff necessary to make the game a reality. 

    Simply put, our promise to our backers and fans has not changed, and the Amplitude project remains unaffected.  

    We look forward to providing frequent updates on the project starting next week, so stay tuned!

    -The Amplitude Development Team

    Sounds like the kickstarter may have saved a few jobs.

    Avatar image for alucitary
    Alucitary

    415

    Forum Posts

    0

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 0

    #45  Edited By Alucitary

    Harmonix has been a weird company ever since the end of the Dance Central days. They now have multiple titles in various stages of development but none of them even show signs of even providing a release date. They've had Fantasia on the table forever as well as Chroma which has been in Alpha forever, and now they're adding on Amplitude. This layoff sucks but I don't blame the higher ups for raising a few eyebrows, auditing the dev house, and removing some of the less essential staff to increase efficiency.

    Avatar image for foggen
    Foggen

    1181

    Forum Posts

    2010

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 6

    @splodge said:

    @foggen said:

    I didn't back the Kickstarter because I never really liked Frequency, but if I had done so I would now feel like I had been taken advantage of, especially if anything happened to Drake or Pope. All of the shits I give about Harmonix revolve around those guys.

    The success of the Kickstarter is more than likely the only reason they could keep their jobs.

    Is it confirmed that they did?

    Avatar image for unclebenny
    UncleBenny

    756

    Forum Posts

    80

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 6

    @foggen: I think JTD is too essential to be let go, if he gets let go it'd because Harmonix is closing or because he killed that girl.

    Avatar image for quarters
    Quarters

    2661

    Forum Posts

    0

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 0

    Man, rough day for people in the biz.

    Avatar image for splodge
    splodge

    3309

    Forum Posts

    0

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 0

    #49  Edited By splodge

    @foggen said:

    @splodge said:

    @foggen said:

    I didn't back the Kickstarter because I never really liked Frequency, but if I had done so I would now feel like I had been taken advantage of, especially if anything happened to Drake or Pope. All of the shits I give about Harmonix revolve around those guys.

    The success of the Kickstarter is more than likely the only reason they could keep their jobs.

    Is it confirmed that they did?

    Yup Amplitude is one of the things that can keep going. IT stands to reason without the kickstarter there would be no funding and no game, thus no need for that staff. Kickstarter funds pays their wage during the production.

    Avatar image for hollitz
    hollitz

    2398

    Forum Posts

    5

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 1

    User Lists: 12

    Well that sucks. I really like Harmonix. And Chroma sounded pretty cool.

    This edit will also create new pages on Giant Bomb for:

    Beware, you are proposing to add brand new pages to the wiki along with your edits. Make sure this is what you intended. This will likely increase the time it takes for your changes to go live.

    Comment and Save

    Until you earn 1000 points all your submissions need to be vetted by other Giant Bomb users. This process takes no more than a few hours and we'll send you an email once approved.