(Do not buy) Hitman Absolution

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#1 Edited by Oni (2098 posts) -

How do I hate thee, Hitman Absolution? Let me count the ways.

-Open, sandboxy levels with assassination targets have been mostly thrown out the window in favor of a crappy, mostly linear stealth game, like a worse Splinter Cell. I've played the first 5 missions, and the vast majority of the time was spent dodging patrolling guards.

-Stealth mechanics are bad. If a guard sees you, an arrow on the screen indicates which guard sees you, and once he's definitely for real spotted you, it turns red (the arrow changes shape to indicate growing suspicion). Remember disguises in past Hitman games? Throw them in the fucking garbage, they're worthless. It's a cool idea: Disguises of one type do not work well on guards wearing the same type of disguise. EG: a cop will see through your cop uniform because he knows you're not a cop. Problem: They will spot you from across the fucking map, as long as they have line of sight their suspicion will grow. get too close and your cover is instantly blown. Problem 2: Lots of levels with NOTHING BUT COPS. So, you'll spend most of your time simply avoiding enemies, or taking them out if you don't give a shit about being professional. You get docked points for this, even non-lethal takedowns. Oh yeah, the game now has a scoring system to tell you on the fly if you're a good assassin or a reckless dumbass. Which would be fine if not for...

-Playing on Hard (which is the middle difficulty, I might add) is just fucking ridiculous. Disguises are blown almost instantly, there are WAY more guards, to the point where it's literally impossible to make a 'clean' path through a level without getting spotted. You'll have to rely on sheer trial and error as you figure out the correct way, and we're talking timing that has to be ON THE FUCKING DOT or you get spotted, and everything devolves into a crappy action game, with quick-time melee fights and shootouts that just don't belong in a Hitman game. I mean, yeah you can shoot your way out, but to make the stealth path SO HARD that it's almost impossible is against the nature of the game. Deus Ex: HR and Dishonored are both better stealth games AND better action games, and Hitman is ostensibly ABOUT the stealth.

-No saves, just checkpoints (which you have to find and activate in the levels). That means the trial-and-error nature of the stealth is even more aggravating, as you'll waste time getting through bits you've already played or sit around waiting for the guards to move into the right positions. Why get rid of manual saves? Who knows. It's baffling. Furthermore, enemies you've disposed of before activating the checkpoint respawn upon reloading the checkpoint. What the actual fuck.

-Super small levels. Every mission is divided into several smaller maps, and when I say small I mean Deus Ex: Invisible War small. Even the assassination levels are tiny and don't offer nearly as many options as Hitman games of old. Remember the huge casino/hotel in Blood Money? If that level were in this game, every section would be its own level with its own silly objective. It would probably be 4 levels of dodging cops and guards and 1 level where you can roam around 5 rooms and find the couple ways to sneakily kill your target.

To say I'm disappointed would be an understatement. I didn't even expect it to be as good as Blood Money, but it's barely even a Hitman game. Which wouldn't be so bad if it was a fun stealth game in its own right, but it's just not. It's not good on any level. Well, the graphics are good I suppose. Oh yeah, the story is bad too. And there's a LOT of it. And it locked up twice on the loading screen (pc version). GG. I have no idea how this game garnered positive reviews. It's true that it's not as aggravating on Normal, but even then it's just about passably mediocre at best. Avoid this garbage.

#2 Posted by Spoonman671 (4641 posts) -

Everybody else seems to like it.  Sorry you're having a shitty time with it.

#3 Posted by Video_Game_King (36272 posts) -

@Oni said:

How do I hate thee, Hitman Absolution? Let me count the ways.

If you're gonna go this route, you might as well reference the whole damn poem.

#4 Edited by Chaser324 (6556 posts) -

@Spoonman671 said:

Everybody else seems to like it. Sorry you're having a shitty time with it.

To be fair to the OP, neither the critical nor the fan response is universally positive. There are a lot of reviews out there that describe a lot of the same issues and a similar level of disappointment.

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#5 Posted by themangalist (1736 posts) -

@Chaser324 said:

@Spoonman671 said:

Everybody else seems to like it. Sorry you're having a shitty time with it.

To be fair to the OP, neither the critical nor the fan response is universally positive. There are a lot of reviews out there that describe a lot of the same issues and a similar level of disappointment.

Nor from what I read would I not be disappointed either.

#6 Posted by MegaLombax (391 posts) -

I thought the game was okay, given I've only put around 3 hours into it. I loved Blood Money, but I'm embracing the current direction of Absolution. The linear levels aren't that bad in my opinion, it makes for a more focused gameplay experience.

#7 Posted by AlexW00d (6275 posts) -

@Spoonman671 said:

Everybody else seems to like it. Sorry you're having a shitty time with it.

From what I can tell, most people have said much the same as the OP, but some don't care as much that it's not a Hitman game. Some do though, like the PCGamer review and the RPS review.

#8 Posted by Sin4profit (2935 posts) -

I may buy it later on but with such mixed views i'll have to wait for a big price drop as it seems the game is getting most of it's bad reviews from the PC side when is where i'll be getting it. Still, when i see the game played it looks pretty ok and with all the variability in the difficulty settings it's hard to know if i'll be into the game or not so my curiosity about the game fluctuates with the more i hear about it.

Sorry to hear you're disappointed, i know how that goes as i hated Need For Speed Most Wanted on the PC while hearing everybody else talk about how great they think it is.

#9 Posted by murisan (1119 posts) -

I'm having an absolute ball with it. For $30 on GMG, I couldn't have picked a better game. It's great.

#10 Posted by Oni (2098 posts) -

Plenty of negative impressions in the GAF OT as well http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=499620&page=49

I really don't want to be perceived as some wailing fanboy who's pissy because they changed a detail about my precious Hitmenz. I mean really, it was a pretty mediocre series with cool moments and ideas until Blood Money. But I just don't think it's fun or rewarding or engaging on any level. Even on the assassination missions I'm really frustrated by the crappy checkpointing and the amazingly perceptive, yet dumb-as-bricks AI. I'll keep playing because in the end, the assassination missions are still the only Hitman I can get my hands on right now. Everything around them is just awful though.

#11 Posted by Colourful_Hippie (4353 posts) -

I think I'll play Blood Money first because I can see myself liking Absolution since I don't have any experience at all with the franchise.

#12 Posted by YOU_DIED (703 posts) -

Opinions!!! Video games!!!

#13 Posted by Hunkulese (2729 posts) -

@Oni: You should probably not throw out your don't buy recommendation after 5 missions. I'm guessing you just finished the Library which is probably the worst and most frustrating mission I've seen so far. It's not Blood Money but you knew that going in. It does a ton of things better than Blood Money even if it screws up a few things along the way.

#14 Posted by pubbles (142 posts) -

@themangalist said:

@Chaser324 said:

@Spoonman671 said:

Everybody else seems to like it. Sorry you're having a shitty time with it.

To be fair to the OP, neither the critical nor the fan response is universally positive. There are a lot of reviews out there that describe a lot of the same issues and a similar level of disappointment.

Nor from what I read would I not be disappointed either.

I'm struggling to parse this sentence -- I can't understand it whatsoever. Am I the only one?

#15 Posted by Chaser324 (6556 posts) -

@pubbles said:

@themangalist said:

@Chaser324 said:

@Spoonman671 said:

Everybody else seems to like it. Sorry you're having a shitty time with it.

To be fair to the OP, neither the critical nor the fan response is universally positive. There are a lot of reviews out there that describe a lot of the same issues and a similar level of disappointment.

Nor from what I read would I not be disappointed either.

I'm struggling to parse this sentence -- I can't understand it whatsoever. Am I the only one?

I assumed it was a critique of how I used the word "nor". I try to obey basic grammar rules, but "nor" is one of those words I'm always a little unsure about.

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#16 Posted by MetalThrashingMatt (210 posts) -

I'm loving it. So.....bummer?

#17 Posted by jtman54179 (183 posts) -

@pubbles said:

@themangalist said:

@Chaser324 said:

@Spoonman671 said:

Everybody else seems to like it. Sorry you're having a shitty time with it.

To be fair to the OP, neither the critical nor the fan response is universally positive. There are a lot of reviews out there that describe a lot of the same issues and a similar level of disappointment.

Nor from what I read would I not be disappointed either.

I'm struggling to parse this sentence -- I can't understand it whatsoever. Am I the only one?

No

#18 Posted by thebunnyhunter (1423 posts) -

So is it a good game but a bad Hitman Blood Money sequel? If so that makes me a sad panda

#19 Posted by gaminghooligan (1447 posts) -

@murisan said:

I'm having an absolute ball with it. For $30 on GMG, I couldn't have picked a better game. It's great.

Yep. Really enjoying it, and the thirty dollar entry fee has been the icing on the cake. Not to mention, it is an awesome looking PC game.

#20 Posted by nail1080 (1975 posts) -

@Oni: Nice post, and you just confirmed all my fears about the direction the series is taking. I'll pass on this game, even though I can get it for free it still sounds meh plus I have many great games to play, just started Dishonoured and it's bloody fantastic.

#21 Posted by pompouspizza (291 posts) -

I have played them all and although I am only half way through, I think it's by far the best in the franchise.

#22 Posted by IceColdGamer (605 posts) -

I'm enjoying it. It's a Hitman game. It's great.

#23 Edited by Karkarov (3109 posts) -

Yeah you will understand if I totally disagree OP. The only thing Blood Money has on Absolution is the openness of the levels. I will agree that hard is perhaps a little "too hard" and normal is maybe a little too easy, but I read somewhere they are already looking at patching that insane spot distance which is what creates 75% of that feeling of cheapness.

It isn't Blood Money 2, but it IS a Hitman game, just one that chose to focus it's experience more, put more emphasis on story, and try to be a little more.... "cinematic"?

#24 Edited by bybeach (4833 posts) -

@Chaser324 said:

@Spoonman671 said:

Everybody else seems to like it. Sorry you're having a shitty time with it.

To be fair to the OP, neither the critical nor the fan response is universally positive. There are a lot of reviews out there that describe a lot of the same issues and a similar level of disappointment.

I understand that. I just do not like being told in a title what to do.I guess. And Hitman always was a difficult and divisive franchise. I knew this Hitman game in particular was going to have shitty reviews..I'm impressed that it has positive ones.

Maybe there is something to be seen in this game, but it sure wasn't the mouth stabbing and such I was seeing in the trailers. I'm going to keep hearing about this game and of course, steam sale coming up....

#25 Posted by pyromagnestir (4324 posts) -

So is this game going to be the anti Resident Evil 6 where the crew likes it and the community hates it? Because I hope it is. I would look forward to a dozen "Why the dudes are wrong and this game is shit." threads.

#26 Edited by Laiv162560asse (487 posts) -

I have similar sentiments to the OP but maybe a slightly lower level of disappointment. I'm probably at a similar stage in the game too, at the end of all the early cop escape missions. Actually I was so bummed out by some of the negative things I'd read elsewhere, that really I went into it expecting a mediocre bastardisation of everything that was good about the franchise.

The prologue and the Chinatown level kind of turned my expectations on their head, because it was just such a refreshing pleasure to be playing a Hitman game again - snuffing, choking, dragging, disguising and plotting just like the old days. All the new additions seemed like improvements too. I hated everything I read about Instinct but it has the potential to work really well; essentially it is the natural evolution of the map system and makes no more or less sense than that ever did. The SC: Conviction style 'drop shots' is fine. Hitman gunplay has always been a bit of a pointless exercise and Absolution's is characteristically wobbly, so anything which streamlines the shooting to make it feel more cinematic and badass is no problem. So I digested those two big changes and felt excited for what was to come.

Slowly working through the next few levels has kind of killed all that. Everything the OP said is correct and well expressed. Worthless story, obnoxious unbelievable characters (moreso than ever before), smaller levels, bad and inconsistent checkpointing, horrible QTE-based melee (especially on PC where the screen prompts are tiny compared to those on console), poor level design in general, and broken disguises. That's the worst of all, the broken worthless disguises. Again, in my opinion nothing has been changed in this game which couldn't still work very well in theory, and as OP said the idea of eg. cops seeing through a cop disguise is fine. Hitman 2 did that. The problem is it did it way better, with a bar that slowly pulsed through blue to red, and only when you got too close to enemies. Compared to this game where: your disguise degrades practically anywhere in line of sight, you only get a misshapen arrow as an indicator, and without Instinct it takes about 4 seconds before your disguise is blown completely and you may as well reload (from who knows where the last checkpoint was).

So while some people have been saying this resembles Silent Assassin over Blood Money, I'd say so far it in fact resembles the first game, Codename 47, more than anything else, with its torrid trial and error, and weird superhuman boss like enemies. It's hard to know how to feel, because I went in expecting so little, had my hopes raised quite a lot by a strong opening, but now feel so bummed out that I'm more or less forcing myself to continue playing.

#27 Posted by WilltheMagicAsian (1545 posts) -
#28 Posted by Abendlaender (2808 posts) -

*sigh*

It hurts me, but I have to agree. Granted I just finished the second level (so I have basically seen nothing of the game) but everything I've encountered so far matches your criticism. Also: Why the hell to vendors detect me? Through a crowd of hundreds of people nonetheless. Really? I mean come on, really? I get it if security guards see through my disguise but fucking vendors? On a street filled with vendors? Why? How?

Also, can somebody PN me if there is a way to get Silent Assassin on the second level (the chinatownlevel) on the higher difficulties? I spent like an hour searching for a way to get to the kill without ever subduing an enemy but it seems impossible (good on them if there is a way which I don't doubt there is but I can't find it.) It seems like for a Silent Assassins the more creative kills are impossible to do, which is shame

#29 Posted by murisan (1119 posts) -

@Abendlaender: Are you disguised as a vendor?

#30 Posted by BillyTheKid (486 posts) -

Well if you have played the first (which I am currently doing now) it had stupid shit like that the entire time. The game was still solid because the AI was not shit (as you described it) but there was still tons of garbage in there. I will have to play it for myself because tons of people are all over the map as far as quality goes.

#31 Posted by Laiv162560asse (487 posts) -
@Abendlaender: Yes the vendor suspicion in the Chinatown level is insane. When I was exploring that level in a vendor's disguise, one vendor looked at me for too long (about 5 seconds) through a massive crowd of people, from about 30 feet away. Her reaction was to point, scream, then run off and hide off in a corner moaning to herself with her hands on her head. Just bizarre behaviour. Sure, the older games had plenty of jank and flaws, but a) we are now in 2012 and b) that's her reaction just from looking at me wearing some stall-vendor's clothes. Nothing else. This kind of sensitivity to disguises is a first. 
 
I'll PM you about SA on the Chinatown level.
#32 Posted by Sackmanjones (4708 posts) -

I'm enjoying the game more than you.

Buuuuut you do make very valid points. So like I said I'm enjoying it but I'm a bit disappointed

#33 Posted by Creamypies (4066 posts) -

Play it on normal, you'll have a much better time.

#34 Posted by Demoskinos (14850 posts) -

I think its great so.... yeah. Going to finish listening to the bombcast then I'm going to play more.

#35 Posted by murisan (1119 posts) -

I just want to say, this is my first Hitman game. Ever. And I got Silent Assassin on the Chinatown level on my first try of it. I'm not sure what to say to the people bitching about getting spotted by vendors if you're disguised as a vendor. Here's a tip: you don't need a single disguise to get SA in Chinatown.

#36 Edited by Akyho (1655 posts) -

Fun Fact.....47 starts of with basically no skills. You know those skills you unlock...yeah those are important for building 47 up for taking on the harder difficulty. What you are doing by playing on hard is playing the NEW game + of an RPG with a Level 1 character...your gonna get raped hard.

You are also barley anywhere in the game, there is TONS more to do after all that. Wait until you meet Kayne and Lynch.

#37 Edited by Laiv162560asse (487 posts) -
@murisan: I'm not bitching about getting spotted by vendors just because I can't get SA rank (and neither was @abendlaender who made it a separate point). I already worked out about 6 methods of killing the King undetected including one that got me SA. I was bitching about the vendor suspicion because it's dumb. SA isn't the only viable, fun way to kill the King. There are others, which require disguises, but the disguise spotting logic is silly.
#38 Posted by FoxMulder (1697 posts) -

I'm guessing a white food vendor in Chinatown probably sticks out more than you'd think. That and I'm sure that most of the vendors know each other! Just sayin....even though it is a stretch!

#39 Posted by Kerned (1170 posts) -

The complaints you are making are exactly the things I was worried about. This game is quite clearly not for me.

Thanks for the detailed critique, you helped save me some money.

#40 Posted by Ghost_Cat (1441 posts) -

Complaints to a Hitman game? How am I not surprised. They all had issues before, and all had crazy AI problems, but you learn to cope with it and just enjoy the game and it's special formula of trial-and-error stealth gameplay (which I am sure is how the series got its fan base). Hell, I tried playing a little bit of Blood Money this morning, and that became a hard pill to swallow compare to the feel of Absolution.

#41 Posted by granderojo (1788 posts) -

My friend seems to really like it and she's a grognard mostly pc gamer who hates most everything. Watching her stream seems to make me think that Alex was correct in his review, it's very exploitative and very Robert Rodriguez in nature.

Not like the old Hitman games but good in it's own subtle ways.

Man I was ready to be bummed the fuck out about this game but somehow IO pulled out a hail mary pass and kept me into the game. Staggering.

#42 Posted by kishinfoulux (2316 posts) -

I propose the opposite. DO BUY Hitman Absolution.

Firstly because it's a really fun game, and secondly just to spite all the whiners hating on it. ^_^

#43 Posted by MrSlapHappy (182 posts) -

Alex seemed fairly positive about it, It sounds like they kept a lot of the old stuff and streamlined a bunch of other mechanics. I will wait for more information before I make a purchasing decision regardless.

#44 Posted by Zekhariah (697 posts) -

@pubbles said:

@themangalist said:

@Chaser324 said:

@Spoonman671 said:

Everybody else seems to like it. Sorry you're having a shitty time with it.

To be fair to the OP, neither the critical nor the fan response is universally positive. There are a lot of reviews out there that describe a lot of the same issues and a similar level of disappointment.

Nor from what I read would I not be disappointed either.

I'm struggling to parse this sentence -- I can't understand it whatsoever. Am I the only one?

I'm unable to not able to not be unconfused by it.

#45 Posted by murisan (1119 posts) -

I just don't get the complaining. It's pretty basic.. if you're in costume A, and you are seen by NPC A, you will get noticed. Yes, the sightlines are long, but aren't human eyes good at seeing decent distances?

Oh well, can't satisfy everyone.

#46 Posted by Raven10 (1794 posts) -

@pubbles said:

@themangalist said:

@Chaser324 said:

@Spoonman671 said:

Everybody else seems to like it. Sorry you're having a shitty time with it.

To be fair to the OP, neither the critical nor the fan response is universally positive. There are a lot of reviews out there that describe a lot of the same issues and a similar level of disappointment.

Nor from what I read would I not be disappointed either.

I'm struggling to parse this sentence -- I can't understand it whatsoever. Am I the only one?

Let me help you by using this beautiful thing called grammar.

He means to say: Nor, from what I read, would I not be disappointed either.

Or to say it in a clearer way: From what I've read, I would be disappointed, too.

On Topic: I haven't played it but I noticed on the quicklook that saves and checkpointing change depending on the difficulty as does the number of guards. If you find the game frustrating then lower the difficulty to Normal or Easy and then work your way back up. If the game isn't fun to you on Hard then why are you playing it on that difficulty? It says right in the menu screen what you are getting into. A lot of gamers just choose Hard difficulty out of pride. That's foolish. Pick the difficulty that provides you with the most fun experience. Who cares if that is the Easy difficulty? Some of your complaints might not be changed with that, but why make the game much worse than you already think it is?

#47 Posted by Yummylee (21687 posts) -

You're basically reiterating all of the complaints I've brought up in the other thread, just with perhaps a little more scorn :P I'm still enjoying it any in case--messing around in the bar and the gun store levels was a hoot--but yeah, I'm not particularly thrilled about the changes and even besides that the game has some issues. Which of course as does every Hitman game, but Absolution doesn't feel as richer, like it's not worth putting up through the hassle as much.

#48 Posted by HistoryInRust (6317 posts) -

I needed an excuse to just go back and replay Hitman 2. Looks like I've found it.

#49 Posted by Worcanna (90 posts) -

I think the only complaint i have is that the disguise system doesn't make 100% sense in every context and that i don't think they really thought out the challenges. A lot of them feel like "To do these, you must give up your silent rank" which goes against the game itself. I might be wrong when players start to get creative but id love to know i guess.

#50 Posted by Levio (1784 posts) -

It sounds like everyone has the same problems, but OP is just far more annoyed by them than most.

Sounds like me and La-Mulana. And Demon Souls. And Arkham City. And Infamous.

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