A better Silent Hill game than downpour.

#1 Posted by Lysergica33 (518 posts) -

Anyone agree? Feels like a return to the old-school survival horror of the PS1. The music and atmosphere of this game is top-notch, truly immersive stuff! :D

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#2 Posted by Redbullet685 (6029 posts) -

Do you know what Silent Hill is? I Am Alive is nothing like Silent Hill.

#3 Posted by Coafi (1481 posts) -

No, I don't agree. I Am Alive can't be compared to Silent Hill, and it definitely does not feel like an old-school survival horror from the PS1. NO.

#4 Posted by Lysergica33 (518 posts) -

@Redbullet685 said:

Do you know what Silent Hill is? I Am Alive is nothing like Silent Hill.

Of course I know what Silent Hill is. I see a lot of similarities here mechanically. The crippling fog, the overworld map with various sections all blocked off (and then scribbled on the map,) the creepy droning music, the methodical pacing..

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#5 Posted by TentPole (1858 posts) -

Nope

#6 Posted by dekkadekkadekka (730 posts) -

@Lysergica33 said:

A better Silent Hill game than Downpour.

Wrong.

#7 Posted by Hairydutchman (1039 posts) -

It's a better game than Downpour though.

#8 Posted by Yummylee (21295 posts) -

I haven't played I Am Alive, but I know that it at least isn't a horror game. And first & foremost, that is exactly what the Silent Hill series is about. You can say maybe you prefer the survivalist gameplay, but comparing them together as a whole is silly. It'd be like someone saying Uncharted 3 is a better Gears of War game than Gears of War 3.

#9 Posted by dekkadekkadekka (730 posts) -

@Hairydutchman said:

It's a better game than Downpour though.

Wrong.

#10 Edited by Creamypies (4052 posts) -

@Lysergica33 said:

@Redbullet685 said:

Do you know what Silent Hill is? I Am Alive is nothing like Silent Hill.

Of course I know what Silent Hill is. I see a lot of similarities here mechanically. The crippling fog, the overworld map with various sections all blocked off (and then scribbled on the map,) the creepy droning music, the methodical pacing..

I'll grant you that yes, there are similarities mechanically... but that's where the similarities end. Silent Hill is all about the creepy atmosphere, the disturbing and grotesque imagery, the main character battling some form of inner demon and the occult. Also, how many endings does I Am Alive have? And if there is more than one, is one of them either UFO or dog related?

It may be a better game than Downpour, but it certainly isn't a better Silent Hill.

And now, just because...

#11 Posted by Brodehouse (9636 posts) -

If you're just going by Patrick tearing down Downpour, don't bother. He doesn't even make sense in his criticism. He complains that you should run in Silent Hill games, and then stands and fights against three enemies. He formed an opinion before turning it on, and then played it to confirm that opinion.

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#12 Posted by xaLieNxGrEyx (2605 posts) -

Downpour is the best SH since 4, arguably 3.

It may be a technical disaster but I'll be damned if it isn't a great example of what makes Silent Hill great.

#13 Edited by LaserLambert (167 posts) -

@Brodehouse: I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks that. and I haven't even played Downpour.

#14 Posted by ZOnikJJ (258 posts) -

Yeah, I am Alive reminded me a lot of the first Silent Hill game.

#15 Posted by Yummylee (21295 posts) -

@Brodehouse:

Yes! God, I haven't even watched the QL because I'm sure it was brutal, but everything I've heard him say elsewhere was so unfair. And the way he simultaneously preaches unto Siren Blood Curses breaks anything he has to say about Downpour apart frankly, leaving his entire outlook on horror games inconsistent.

#16 Posted by CommonReason (109 posts) -

@dekkadekkadekka said:

@Hairydutchman said:

It's a better game than Downpour though.

Wrong.

You sure do make a compelling argument.

#17 Posted by Yummylee (21295 posts) -

@CommonReason said:

@dekkadekkadekka said:

@Hairydutchman said:

It's a better game than Downpour though.

Wrong.

You sure do make a compelling argument.

Only about as much as the person he replied to did.

#18 Posted by dekkadekkadekka (730 posts) -

@CommonReason said:

@dekkadekkadekka said:

@Hairydutchman said:

It's a better game than Downpour though.

Wrong.

You sure do make a compelling argument.

I gave his comment the same amount of thought that his comment took to post.

#19 Posted by Kandycane2029 (511 posts) -

I just finished Downpour. Though it was the first Silent Hill game I've actually played, I didn't think it was a bad game at all.

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#21 Posted by DeF (4810 posts) -

I Am Alive is a better Tetris game than Need for Speed: Porsche!

/official

#22 Posted by Lysergica33 (518 posts) -

@Brodehouse:

Played a bit of it, wasn't impressed with what I played at all. I wasn't expecting much, but my expectations are never so strong that they will stop me from then enjoying a game if it proves me wrong. Downpour simply didn't prove me wrong.

@Kandycane2029:

Nice, now play the first 3 in the series and prepare to lose your shit! The first does indeed look very dated by today's graphical standards, but I would argue that the graphics do a lot for the feeling of the game. Makes everything seem distinctly more "alien" and... Wrong, I guess. SH2 and 3 are both absolutely gorgeous.

@Creamypies:

Sure, thematically Silent Hill goes far deeper than I Am Alive does, but I think the mood, gameplay and pacing all do what SH used to do so well, to a much larger extent than any of the more recent entries into the series. I was way too high to expand on why I feel this way last night, as I posted this topic nigh-on immediately after finishing the game, and then went to bed, but I'll go into more detail here.

I game mostly for the immersion factor. My ability to suspend my disbelief knows no bounds, so long as a game has a powerful and gripping atmosphere and mood. When it comes to horror, I like to be made to feel unempowered, vulnerable, lost and isolated. Now, while I Am Alive may not actually be billed as a horror game, I feel that it achieves that vulnerability and isolation that I feel is so important to get right. The section of the game just after you get the gas mask, and it shifts to night time, and you're wandering the very lowest level of the city is the best example of this IMO. No enemies, no puzzles, just an all-consuming cloud of dust, zero visability and sustained chords of ominous doom! Beautiful. And so immersed was I at this point in the game, that my heartrate was through the roof, I was shaking slightly and I could do nothing but continue through the fog to my destination. So while the plot and subtext remained paper-thin and despite the game becoming relatively more combat heavy as it went on (cool combat mechanics though, dig the ideas at work here, threatening dudes with an empty pistol is a stroke of genius,) it didn't taint my overall experience with the game, which was frankly pretty fucking terrifying, and this is why I feel it to be a better SH game than Downpour; it didn't need gruesome, otherworldly enemies or well drawn characters to draw me in, just some thick fog and some good drones.

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#23 Posted by thedj93 (1237 posts) -
@DeF said:

I Am Alive is a better Tetris game than Need for Speed: Porsche!

/official

good times...
#24 Posted by Creamypies (4052 posts) -

@Lysergica33: Again, I'm not disputing your immersion and enjoyment of I Am Alive. All I am saying is that your statement that it is a better Silent Hill game than Downpour is way off. Saying that I Am Alive is a better survival horror game than Downpour would've been far more appropriate.

So yes, they may be similar... but without the things I mentioned in my previous post, you don't have yourself a Silent Hill game. You have yourself a survival horror game.

#25 Posted by FilipHolm (667 posts) -

I really didn't like I am Alive... I felt like it didn't have an atmosphere...

#26 Posted by Lysergica33 (518 posts) -

@FilipHolm said:

I really didn't like I am Alive... I felt like it didn't have an atmosphere...

May I suggest a bigger TV and cranked speakers? Select herbs really don't hurt the experience either.. :)

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