Destructoid's Infamous review

Post by DonPixel (40 posts) See mini bio

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So they give it a 6.5 :

http://www.destructoid.com/review-infamous-136544.phtml

First let me tell Giantbomb and Destructoid staff are the ones I respect the most for reviews, nevertheless this time after reading both and playing a infamous rental I have to go with destructoid one.

Dunno but im starting to feel that giantbomb is really forgiving with their reviews, for this game Brad pretty much ignore most of the annoying issues with infamous.

What you guys think?

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Post by Brendan (471 posts) See mini bio

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I agree, even though it may sound a little cliche I'm somewhere between those two reviews. Destructoid was merciless of it's faults and Brad was looking through a happy filter.

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Post by Roddra (24 posts) See mini bio

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@Brendan said:

" I agree, even though it may sound a little cliche I'm somewhere between those two reviews. Destructoid was merciless of it's faults and Brad was looking through a happy filter. "

There's fault in enjoying a quality product?

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Post by Jerusahat (66 posts) See mini bio

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I prefer GB reviews to the current trend of putting games through the grinder. The guys here seem enthusiastic about games in general.

I'm much more interested in hearing about what someone enjoyed than paragraphs of moaning. It's more useful for seeing what games are worth my attention. I can decide if problems are going to be too much of an issue for me by trying a demo.

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Post by CL60 (5,722 posts) See mini bio

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It deserves better then a 6.5, and the link wont work for me, keeps saying page load error.

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Post by Brendan (471 posts) See mini bio

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@Roddra:
I didn't come even close to saying that. I said Destructoid focused it's review on it's faults while Brad spent much less time on them. I noted two opposing viewpoints.

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Post by buzz_clik (1,752 posts) See mini bio

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It's not like the GB guys won't call out a game's faults even if they had a good experience with it. It may happen to be that something (possibly undefinable) resonated with Brad in this instance. He's not wrong, he apparently just got something out of it that you didn't. Neither viewpoint is incorrect. I don't expect people to share my decades-old enthusiasm for Impossible Mission on the Commodore 64, but I'm not wrong for being that into it.

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Post by ROBdaMOB (110 posts) See mini bio

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ive heard nothing but good things on infamous

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Post by Stephen_Von_Cloud (825 posts) See mini bio

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That review is overly harsh, but I can see them all as valid points (if a bit of an overreaction). The parkour I think worked perfectly fine and although the karma system is contrived, it's not much more so than say, Fable II. All the complaints about enemies and the combat are dead on though and I found them repetitive.

Again, valid but harsh. InFamous isn't a bad game whatsoever, but it's certainly not flawless and depending on your tastes you might not really enjoy it much. I think Brad's review and Jim's review were both very personal opinions on the game and I see where both are coming from (myself probably falling dead in the middle between them).

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Post by jukezypoo (957 posts) See mini bio

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I played through inFAMOUS, and I seriously almost didn't notice the flaws of the game until after I finished it. Since reviews should reflect what someone will feel while playing the game, I'd say I prefer Brad's, even if it ignored some of the faults. Of course these are ALL opinions, but I fucking loved the game, and I think that that review sounds overly picky. What's even odder is that, on the podcast, they sounded rather enthusiastic about inFamous.

Either way, they're all opinions, and although I fall closer to Brad's review, I can't falt someone for stating their own view on a game.

Posted 5 months, 1 week ago

Post by Fbomb (281 posts) See mini bio

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@Stephen_Von_Cloud said:

" That review is overly harsh, but I can see them all as valid points (if a bit of an overreaction). The parkour I think worked perfectly fine and although the karma system is contrived, it's not much more so than say, Fable II. All the complaints about enemies and the combat are dead on though and I found them repetitive.Again, valid but harsh. InFamous isn't a bad game whatsoever, but it's certainly not flawless and depending on your tastes you might not really enjoy it much. "

True for any game. Don't care for Devil May Cry, Halo, or Gears, even though they saw huge praise. I prefer when they don't focus heavily on the negative small stuff, if the sum of its parts is great.

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Post by Luke (828 posts) See mini bio

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He's right on a lot of points, but he also exaggerated on a lot of shit.

Like on the Surveillance Missions. You do them like 4 times total in the game, if you do the Side-Quests, and they can suck *slightly* but he makes then out to be the most horrible thing in the world, among other points. I didn't even do them on the second play-though. But how is this different from any other Open-World game? Even GTA suffers from this a bit.

"What an exaggerater", is all I could think reading through the whole review.

Regardless, his text in no way justified the 6.5 score (I'm still gunna watch the Video Review here in a second). There is no fucking way in hell it deserves a 6.5. No fucking way in hell.

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Post by OmegaPirate (2,959 posts) See mini bio

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Gah- ever since fucking zero punctuation made it cool to be funny and do nothing but point at the bad aspects of games - twinned witht he fact its easier to pick a flaw than place a compliment

i've stopped paying attention to reviews - If i enjoy playing the demo/rental -i shall buy it - simple - one mans trash is anothers treasure- it sounds to me like none of those guys liked playing any open world games at all - i mean the flaws the gave are pretty invokative of every sandbox game to come out this gen :\

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Post by jakob187 (9,579 posts) See mini bio

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Hrmm...very odd to see these incredibly negative reviews after so many positive ones have popped up. Almost makes me wonder if these guys just hate fun video games or not. = / Too much comparison to Crackdown from them. Judge the game on its OWN merits, not the merits of another game.

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Post by CoverlessTech (509 posts) See mini bio

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inFAMOUS (PS3)
Developer: Sucker Punch
Publisher: Sony
Released: May 26, 2009
MSRP: $59.99

Jim Sterling:

That is where I stoppped reading. Sterling is a whinny little bitch and I honestly don't even think he likes playing video games. He will dwell on and overreact to every little thing about a game. I like that he has the balls to point out the negatives about some games but honestly there is nothing about him that tells me he enjoys playing games.

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Post by rift33 (9 posts) See mini bio

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I feel the same way here and thought that infamous was a bit repetitive. But it was fun once the game got going and all your powers where usable. I'f it had more stuff to do mission wise then I could see this game being alot more of a year end contender. But 4 as of now it's just a better then average summer game. ps...don't get me wrong it's a definitly play game just not what some of the hype makes it out to be. pss.don't go hatin it's just my opinion!!!!

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Post by Red (2,963 posts) See mini bio

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I am yet to play InFamous as my PS3 is still on a boat in the middle of the pacific ocean, so I can't really say too much about the review, but I can say that their article on "why Prototype is blatantly better than InFamous" made me remember that Destructoid is a bunch of frat boys that like to drink. A lot.

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Post by buzz_clik (1,752 posts) See mini bio

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The thing about the GB 5-star scale is that when they give a game the full five, they're not saying it's a perfect game. It just means they wholeheartedly recommend it.

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Post by DonPixel (40 posts) See mini bio

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@buzz_clik said:

" The thing about the GB 5-star scale is that when they give a game the full five, they're not saying it's a perfect game. It just means they wholeheartedly recommend it. "

After reading all opinions I guess GB review aint that bad, as some people said im betewn destructoid and GiantBomb vision.

Just say I would like to see some writting about the negative aspects of the game, not that it doesn't deseve a 5 start... but if you only read Brad review you can go buy infamous with a misleading notion tha you are about to play total awesomnes, just to find out an average open world game, with noticeable problems (like random dudes shooting you from miles all the time)

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Post by h83r (94 posts) See mini bio

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Honestly, it wasn't the review that caught my attention, it was this article by the reviewer, Jim Sterling, that was in the bar to the right. I really don't know what to make of this. I've never been to Destructoid so I've never read anything written by Jim Sterling. Is he trying to be funny and sarcastic or is that really his stance on the whole inFamous v/s Prototype? Is he really hating on inFamous because it's a Playstation exclusive or is he doing it to strike a response like the one I've having to post right now?

As for the 6.5, I don't agree with it, but I can respect it. If everyone had the same opinion, the world would be a very bland place.

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Post by IceCrystal (43 posts) See mini bio

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Sterling's review (the middle one) brings up some real issues but there's exaggeration aplenty. It feels like you're called on to blow up surveillance equipment "a thousand times"? Not quite. Anyway, Destructoid levelled the same complaints against Assassin's Creed, which was the first comparison I made when I started playing inFamous. In inFamous's defense, you aren't required to do side missions, but I think it was required in Assassin's Creed? (It's been awhile.) That's a step up, but it's still a weakness of the free-running sandbox genre, if two games can be called a genre.

I felt that the first reviewer was fair and not too outlandish in his criticisms. There are issues with the title, and glitches, as he noted. It wasn't perfect. I think he justified his 6.0, especially if he was particularly miffed about the moments when Cole would leap and grasp a lightpole like a lemur when all I was trying to do was hop over a car to flee the Dustmen.

The last reviewer's words and scoring, however, don't seem confluent to me. "I thoroughly enjoyed the story and mechanics in spite of the myriad flaws. You should know what you're getting into with this title, however." vs the definition of a 6.5: "Alright. (6s may be slightly above average or simply inoffensive. Fans of the genre should enjoy them a bit, but a fair few will be left unfulfilled.)

It doesn't sound like a 6.5. To me, it definitely sounds like the last fellow experienced a seven. "7 -- Good (7s are solid games that definitely have an audience. Might lack replay value, could be too short or there are some hard-to-ignore faults, but the experience is fun.)" That would have raised the aggregate score a bit.

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Post by gimmysumcowbel (314 posts) See mini bio

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i agree with the Giantbomb review. This game is my game of the year so far. it was amazing. yes there were a couple of glitches but nothing that takes away from the experience dramaticaly. I would recommened it to everybody

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Post by Happy (157 posts) See mini bio

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@h83r said:

" Honestly, it wasn't the review that caught my attention, it was this article by the reviewer, Jim Sterling, that was in the bar to the right. I really don't know what to make of this. I've never been to Destructoid so I've never read anything written by Jim Sterling. Is he trying to be funny and sarcastic or is that really his stance on the whole inFamous v/s Prototype? Is he really hating on inFamous because it's a Playstation exclusive or is he doing it to strike a response like the one I've having to post right now?

As for the 6.5, I don't agree with it, but I can respect it. If everyone had the same opinion, the world would be a very bland place.
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Jim Sterling just likes to write ridiculous lists. This one is a good indicator on how serious he is being.

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Post by Stephen_Von_Cloud (825 posts) See mini bio

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@IceCrystal said:

" Sterling's review (the middle one) brings up some real issues but there's exaggeration aplenty. It feels like you're called on to blow up surveillance equipment "a thousand times"? Not quite. Anyway, Destructoid levelled the same complaints against Assassin's Creed, which was the first comparison I made when I started playing inFamous. In inFamous's defense, you aren't required to do side missions, but I think it was required in Assassin's Creed? (It's been awhile.) That's a step up, but it's still a weakness of the free-running sandbox genre, if two games can be called a genre.

I felt that the first reviewer was fair and not too outlandish in his criticisms. There are issues with the title, and glitches, as he noted. It wasn't perfect. I think he justified his 6.0, especially if he was particularly miffed about the moments when Cole would leap and grasp a lightpole like a lemur when all I was trying to do was hop over a car to flee the Dustmen.

The last reviewer's words and scoring, however, don't seem confluent to me. "I thoroughly enjoyed the story and mechanics in spite of the myriad flaws. You should know what you're getting into with this title, however." vs the definition of a 6.5: "Alright. (6s may be slightly above average or simply inoffensive. Fans of the genre should enjoy them a bit, but a fair few will be left unfulfilled.)

It doesn't sound like a 6.5. To me, it definitely sounds like the last fellow experienced a seven. "7 -- Good (7s are solid games that definitely have an audience. Might lack replay value, could be too short or there are some hard-to-ignore faults, but the experience is fun.)" That would have raised the aggregate score a bit. "

I think with a lot of these games it's how much you like the basic action of the game. I loved Assassin's Creed so much because it nailed the basic gameplay so well (and I think the people who like it so much feel the same way). I think InFamous' missions arent the strongest but if you enjoy the basic gameplay enough you would look past that more (which I think people who like it do, at least a little bit). That's just how I feel about that game though.

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@CoverlessTech said:

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I like that he has the balls to point out the negatives about some games but honestly there is nothing about him that tells me he enjoys playing games.
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I completely agree with you on this. I don't know what it is, but I think he just doesn't like anything, ever. He could be reviewing blowjobs for a living and probably still feel like this guy:

The reviews themselves, I have no problem with.

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Post by buzz_clik (1,752 posts) See mini bio

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@h83r: I find that Jim Sterling can be sometimes be funny for what he delivers. But you've also got to remember that other times he can be a guy who loves wallowing in bile. Every now and then he'll launch into some smug, self-congratulatory rant that is peppered with the C-word because he's trying to be cool in his confrontational, 'edgy' manner. These in themselves can be amusing, but it's best to keep in mind he may sometimes be doing this for entertainment purposes, and not necessarily as a more straight-down-the-line opinion.

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@buzz_clik said:

" @h83r: I find that Jim Sterling can be sometimes be funny for what he delivers. But you've also got to remember that other times he can be a guy who loves wallowing in bile. Every now and then he'll launch into some smug, self-congratulatory rant that is peppered with the C-word because he's trying to be cool in his confrontational, 'edgy' manner. These in themselves can be amusing, but it's best to keep in mind he may sometimes be doing this for entertainment purposes, and not necessarily as a more straight-down-the-line opinion. "

Pretty much right on. I've gotten tired of Destructoid lately.

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Post by Milkman (2,724 posts) See mini bio

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Destructoid is all well and good but their reviews are trash.

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Post by DonPixel (40 posts) See mini bio

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Chad Concelmo is the one I can´t stand of Destructoid´s staff.. he´s Nintendo loving crap is so anoying.. don´t get me wrong Im a nintendo fan myself but he is just super gay about it.

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Post by escapenguin (12 posts) See mini bio

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I understand the criticisms Destructoid raised, and I agree with some of them (for instance, some of the side missions are annoying and repeat too often). But I think the rating is too low for such an enjoyable game, and some of the criticisms are silly, because you don't even have to do all the side missions. The fun you get out of this title really depends on how creative you are with combat.

These days I can only hold most reviews at arms length,, and it seems a lot of ratings have to do with personal taste in the end. Especially true of Destructoid. Sometimes that's good, but then I saunter over to metacritic. After all, Fallout 3 took over my life for a few months and that hasn't happened for years with any game. Did it get awesome reviews from everyone? Not exactly.

P.S., usually I've found if I couldn't finish a side mission with this game, it was because I sucked or was being a bonehead and needed to develop my skill a little more. I don't have a review deadline, though.

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