The video seems to be up, for those interested.
Infestation: Survivor Stories
Game » consists of 2 releases. Released Dec 17, 2012
Formerly called The War Z, this infamous clone of the popular ARMA II mod "DayZ" is best known for the many controversies surrounding its launch, subsequent removal from Steam, and the unapologetic stance of its developers.
This game is screwed
@SomeDeliCook said:
@BisonHero said:Look how many people on this site are swayed by the Bombcast's views on certain gamesStarting your post with "@Totalbiscuit" doesn't actually do anything.
Also, wait, what? Is everybody going to collectively realize the game is in poor shape, or will "one e-celebrity" be the deciding factor? Your phrasing is confusing.
And you seem to flip flop between "this game deserves the terrible reputation it's going to have shortly" and "it's actually a pretty good game but Totalbiscuit is going to get everyone to hate it".
A very, very small proportion of consumers, though.
While the community continues to parrot whatever the crew spouts, they have very little meaning in the actual, commercial world.
OT: What the hell is op talking about?
I feel like it's worth adding that it's from the same guys that made Big Rigs.
You can see how a younger Alex Narravo felt about that game here:
http://www.gamespot.com/big-rigs-over-the-road-racing/videos/big-rigs-over-the-road-racing-video-review-6086530/
I always find it hard to believe anything TotalBiscuit says. His whole "Cynical Brit" schtick just annoys me so he is either putting it on which means how can I really trust his opinion or that really is him and then I dont want to listen to him anyway.
Its annoying actually because I really like Jesse Cox and Dodger so would like to watch the Game Station podcast but having TB on there winds me up too much.
As for WarZ I havent really seen too much of it, at the moment im happy enough to wait for the standalone DayZ instead.
Sooooo, I'm watching Totalbiscuit's video, and I would advise everyone to at least watch the part at the 12:00 mark.
Well yes, but I've been trying to give him the benefit of the doubt. But yes, he hasn't exactly been collecting his thoughts in a very coherent manner. Perhaps English isn't his first language.@ck1nd said:
OP, you make an absolutely horrible case for whatever the hell you are trying to get across here.
This.
@Imsorrymsjackson said:
The game is shitty, wish I could un-buy it.
Amen. But I kinda knew what I was buying.
I've never listened to totalbiscuit before this, the game looks terrible but it isn't as if DayZ set some sort of baseline for quality.
Meh! I feel like them making an MMO game in this day and age is stupid either way so I honestly don't really care.
@SlashDance said:
@thabigred: difference is one of them is a free mod.
People buy Arma to play DayZ. I did, most people who bought during the sales did as well. The mod is about as poorly optimized as this game, end of story.
@thabigred said:
@SlashDance said:
@thabigred: difference is one of them is a free mod.
People buy Arma to play DayZ. I did, most people who bought during the sales did as well. The mod is about as poorly optimized as this game, end of story.
It's still a free mod... you didn't pay anything for the mod.
@thabigred: I'm not defending Day Z, it's just less of a rip-off. If people want to pay for a game they will never play just to try a mod, that's a different story. That money doesn't go in the pockets of the mod makers.
@BasketSnake said:
@Imsorrymsjackson said:
The game is shitty, wish I could un-buy it.
Amen. But I kinda knew what I was buying.
that guy on youtube said valve will accept a first refund request so you could try emailing them. Worst case scenario the develloper gets called out on a shity and obvious attempt to rip of consumers with a terrible buggy game.
@DocHaus: I was only saying that theres gonna be a firestorm about the game because of this and i was right
@BisonHero said:
@ImsorrymsjacksonWell yes, but I've been trying to give him the benefit of the doubt. But yes, he hasn't exactly been collecting his thoughts in a very coherent manner. Perhaps English isn't his first language.@ck1nd said:
OP, you make an absolutely horrible case for whatever the hell you are trying to get across here.
This.
What do you want me to tell you exactly?
@MrKlorox said:
This game is fucked because it's total shit and a scam. It has absolutely nothing to do with internet nobody TotalBiscuit. Nice damage control, guy.
If you'll notice i said there digging there own graves by doing this and straight up lying so please read past the first page before you accuse me of damage control
and don't read everything you see on the internet as fact it could lead to more situations like this
@connerthekewlkid said:
@BisonHero said:
@ImsorrymsjacksonWell yes, but I've been trying to give him the benefit of the doubt. But yes, he hasn't exactly been collecting his thoughts in a very coherent manner. Perhaps English isn't his first language.@ck1nd said:
OP, you make an absolutely horrible case for whatever the hell you are trying to get across here.
This.
What do you want me to tell you exactly?
Nothing, really? It's my guess at why your original post and some of your replies were hard to understand for a lot of people. I could be wrong? If so, my bad.
Anyway, at this point you may be doing more harm to your cause than good. It's one thing to make a few posts saying people are misinformed about the game, but you've made so many posts about the game in the last 24 hours that it starts to look like you're a zealot for the game and have lost any sense of objectivity. I think you've made your point.
@pyrodactyl said:
@BasketSnake said:
@Imsorrymsjackson said:
The game is shitty, wish I could un-buy it.
Amen. But I kinda knew what I was buying.
that guy on youtube said valve will accept a first refund request so you could try emailing them. Worst case scenario the develloper gets called out on a shity and obvious attempt to rip of consumers with a terrible buggy game.
I submitted a ticket stating I felt seriously tricked by the developer. Curious what will happen.
@BisonHero said:
@connerthekewlkid said:
@BisonHero said:
@ImsorrymsjacksonWell yes, but I've been trying to give him the benefit of the doubt. But yes, he hasn't exactly been collecting his thoughts in a very coherent manner. Perhaps English isn't his first language.@ck1nd said:
OP, you make an absolutely horrible case for whatever the hell you are trying to get across here.
This.
What do you want me to tell you exactly?
Nothing, really? It's my guess at why your original post and some of your replies were hard to understand for a lot of people. I could be wrong? If so, my bad.
Anyway, at this point you may be doing more harm to your cause than good. It's one thing to make a few posts saying people are misinformed about the game, but you've made so many posts about the game in the last 24 hours that it starts to look like you're a zealot for the game and have lost any sense of objectivity. I think you've made your point.
Im not in anyway defending anything they have done with steam etc. im only defending the things that are misinformation or that are not true, because unlike most people here ive played the game so i know more about it
@connerthekewlkid: What are people saying that isn't true about the game though. The only thing I can find you claim isn't true is it being called a scam. You claimed it was "proven months ago" that this wasn't a ripoff. The only people who have claimed that are the developers of the game. There is no proof to say this isn't a scam. In fact there is some evidence to say the exact opposite. No hard proof, but some possible evidence.
You also claim that this "all isn't a big deal." Regardless of how you like the game (which you are perfectly allowed to do) blatantly lying about the game's details on release are a VERY big deal. They are selling a clearly unfinished broken game and claiming it to be done. The people on the internet with a voice tearing the game a new one are not the problem, if there wasn't an issue to be upset with, they wouldn't be making these videos or writing these articles. It's not like the whole internet just started hating on a perfectly good game for no reason. They hate a badly made game whose developers repeatedly lie to their customers.
I'm going to agree with some other people who have called you out in this and the other thread, for some reason you are going out attempting to do some kind of damage control. You aren't providing counter points for defense of the game, just downplaying how bad the company is. Maybe it because you are a fan who REALLY loves Hammerpoint, or because you actually work there in some capacity, which was speculated in the other thread (man that would make this all interesting). Either way, you can have your opinion on the game but what you are putting forward here is not a good defense of this game, it's just blind belief that it is a good product that hasn't done everything wrong.
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