John McCain
Topic started by GamespotNoMore on Dec. 31, 2008.
Last post by Bonesofwar 1 year, 2 months ago.
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Well thats the thing with an election. It makes us chose one over the other. If this was just a contest of rate John McCain as a human being with no further ramifications; id say he was a top notch guy for all the reasons you said and then some. But to be the president, you have to be more than just a top notch guy; you have to be able to put your faith in the president that their decision is the one you would want to make. That is where McCain fails.
Think of it as a pure olympic race; just because one person won the race, doesn't mean all the other competitors are slow; they are just slower than 1st place. John McCain lost overall, but he still beat out all the other republicans.
Hell I voted for Obama and he has already done some shit I didn't want happening; but as the president Obama has to be the fine line that makes decisions in general the masses will like; hence politics. That is why I don't get all the Ralph nader people: they don't want to listen to other people, they just believe their way is the best way and want to shake things up. While all of Ralphs ideas may be super radical and may shake things up, so would having a dictatorship. Politics by democracy is based on catering to the masses, and if the masses doesn't want to deal with the "real" issues, then the president will win by dealing with the issues that the masses care about.
(sorry for stupid rant about nader at the end; those poeple just don't get it.)
Think of it as a pure olympic race; just because one person won the race, doesn't mean all the other competitors are slow; they are just slower than 1st place. John McCain lost overall, but he still beat out all the other republicans.
Hell I voted for Obama and he has already done some shit I didn't want happening; but as the president Obama has to be the fine line that makes decisions in general the masses will like; hence politics. That is why I don't get all the Ralph nader people: they don't want to listen to other people, they just believe their way is the best way and want to shake things up. While all of Ralphs ideas may be super radical and may shake things up, so would having a dictatorship. Politics by democracy is based on catering to the masses, and if the masses doesn't want to deal with the "real" issues, then the president will win by dealing with the issues that the masses care about.
(sorry for stupid rant about nader at the end; those poeple just don't get it.)
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GamespotNoMore said:
"yeah, I agree with you a lot about Ralph Nader stuff. He should just stop running. He hasn't garnered near enough votes as Ross Perot did in 1996 (8 million plus votes) or 1992 (19 million plus votes), but I guess Nader is an option for people who hate both candidates. But some of the third parties have some radical ideas that are completely crazy"Nah, if people hate both parties, they generally write-in someone. Usually Ron Paul, or Tits McGee, or Roll Fizzlebeef. Nothing serious.
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not to spark a debate here...but dude, Optimus prime!? Seriously? How dare you sir mock our political process by suggesting Optimus Prime be a write in. I say that if you don't like who's up there, do us all a favor and don't vote.
Besides, everyone knows that Man-spider would win over optimus prime, hands down!
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Post by daniel_beck_90 (2,343 posts) See mini bio
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GamespotNoMore said:
GamespotNoMore said:
"I agree Daniel...Obama's campaign...I am NOT Bush...McCain is because he's in the same party...Bush is evil..therefore McCain is evil...and it worked splendidly, and honestly if I were a total hardcore democrat, I would advise Barack Obama the same strategy, and it would work every time, especially after a president with some of the worst approval ratings in history"exactly , Bush is one of the most unpopular president in American history . based on CNN's report 75% of Americans are glad that he is leaving White House also based on the same report 29% of Americans believe Bush is the worst president ever . by relating McCain to Bush , Obama won the election .
GamespotNoMore said:
"Palin was a really poor pick...so was Joe Biden"yeah , but at least Biden was not rude and shameless . Palin is not even qualified to be a senator in Alaska what about being the Vice president
Post by Optiow (1,672 posts) See mini bio
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GamespotNoMore said:
the Japs?
Or the Germans?
"what do people think of this guy? Both my parents voted for him, but I voted for Obama, but honestly, there are things I really dislike about both of them, just like in a lot of elections...I admire and respect McCain for being a patriot and not giving into torture for years as a POW..that takes guts and courage"Who was he tortured by?
the Japs?
Or the Germans?
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Optiow said:
Are you being a smart ass or are you just retarded?
"GamespotNoMore said:..."what do people think of this guy? Both my parents voted for him, but I voted for Obama, but honestly, there are things I really dislike about both of them, just like in a lot of elections...I admire and respect McCain for being a patriot and not giving into torture for years as a POW..that takes guts and courage"Who was he tortured by?
the Japs?
Or the Germans?"
Are you being a smart ass or are you just retarded?
Post by daniel_beck_90 (2,343 posts) See mini bio
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GamespotNoMore said:
"well, to me, just my opinion, Biden comes off as very rude, like a know-it-all, arrogant and smug..he's probably a pretty good senator, but he has an arrogant, prickly demeanor...if Obama wanted to create a new Washington, DC with people tired of Washington politics, he shouldn't have selected a senator who first got elected as Delaware senator in 1973. What about the Dream Team of Obama-Clinton? I thought Edwards would have been a better vice president, yes, even after we found out he cheated on his wife while she had cancer"As for the Vice President there were many better choices for Obama , no doubt about it . also I believe Obama's cabinet could have been a lot better . the rumor about corruption in Obama's cabinet and the way they have been chosen does not make it any better either. I hope Obama manages to handle things properly .
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Post by Optiow (1,672 posts) See mini bio
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GamespotNoMore said:
I had forgotten the 'nam war!
well then, he would have had a really bad time, the 'kong were nasty shits.
"tortured by the Viet Cong I believe for years, and they offered to release him, but he wouldn't go unless the rest of his group (squadron or whatever it's called) (the group of POWs that he was captured with) were released too, so he was tortured some more for this country"Oh sorry!
I had forgotten the 'nam war!
well then, he would have had a really bad time, the 'kong were nasty shits.
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daniel_beck_90 said:
He just put out the same view on the issues (near the election).
"All I can say is that I voted for him but McCain chose the worst vice president possible and he paid for itI guess he's not the exact same person, you're right.
Also many believed (becasue of Obama 's clever ads ) that he was like Bush while in fact he was not"
He just put out the same view on the issues (near the election).
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Hexpane said:
"My friends, the fundamentals of the economy are STRONG, how many houses do I own? How the hell should I know, I'm a rich old white man bitch!"yeah he kind of put me off with that statement. Seriously if you dont even know how many houses you own then how are you going to handle other peoples problems?
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Gunner said:
WAHHHHHAAAAAA we got 700billion dollars of tax money stolen from us to pay for CEO bonuses waaaaahhh we have the worst national debt in all of history, waaaahhhh
"Hexpane said:There are no problems, as McAin's Senior Economic Adviser stated on record "Economic fears are mostly overblown, we have become a nation of whiners""My friends, the fundamentals of the economy are STRONG, how many houses do I own? How the hell should I know, I'm a rich old white man bitch!"yeah he kind of put me off with that statement. Seriously if you dont even know how many houses you own then how are you going to handle other peoples problems?"
WAHHHHHAAAAAA we got 700billion dollars of tax money stolen from us to pay for CEO bonuses waaaaahhh we have the worst national debt in all of history, waaaahhhh
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Post by daniel_beck_90 (2,343 posts) See mini bio
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GamespotNoMore said:
.Azteris said:
"he seems to be a good senator...I don't know how he would do for president, but it doesn't matter now because Barack has been chosen"Yeah , Democrats won the match but fortunately they did not capture (the magical ) 60 senate seats . the parties are still balanced
.Azteris said:
"daniel_beck_90 said:Exactly , Obama did a great job of making him what he was not . hope he could remain that clever in the actual presidency ! ."All I can say is that I voted for him but McCain chose the worst vice president possible and he paid for itI guess he's not the exact same person, you're right.
Also many believed (becasue of Obama 's clever ads ) that he was like Bush while in fact he was not"
He just put out the same view on the issues (near the election)."
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