Should I get Just Cause 2, or GTA IV with both Expansions?

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#1 Posted by karatetron (692 posts) -

What do you guys think? 
 
(By the way, I know this should have been a poll, but I'm a pretty new user, so I don't know how to make one, lol)

#2 Posted by ShaneDev (1696 posts) -

Tough one, have you played GTA 4 before?

#3 Posted by Mmmslash (2168 posts) -

Do you enjoy a realistic setting, or an over-the-top action sort of game?

#4 Posted by TaccyP (307 posts) -

Just cause 2 is WAY more fun.

#5 Posted by Pessh (2459 posts) -

If you don't own and havn't played GTA then go with that. If you want to make a poll in the future just click create new thread, then there should be a red button somewhere (I believe it's on the right) saying 'make a poll instead?'

#6 Posted by raiz265 (2238 posts) -

from what ive played of just cause 2 (5 hours or so) i have to say it feels pretty clunky somehow... on the other hand you can pull of much more crazy stuff and the world is freaking huge 
 
i guess it depends on whether you want a cool story or just crazy sandbox epicness

#7 Posted by SteamPunkJin (1286 posts) -

You'll probably get more in the long run out of GTA and the Add Ons - the main Campaign is about 30hours and each add on about 10-15. In addition to three great stories you have the multiplayer game options. If you do get GTA play them in order, it will make more sense. Also then you won't get used to thing that were added later - better guns, better motorcycle balancing, and parachutes just to name a few.

#8 Posted by VilhelmNielsen (1734 posts) -

I'm actually not sure GTA:IV holds up to todays standards, but your choice is over-the-top action or great story telling.

#9 Edited by HitmanAgent47 (8576 posts) -

If your getting gta4 and expansions I think they are good and the better choice. I will play just cause demo today to see if the game is any good, I doubt it's better than the gta game technically.

#10 Posted by _Phara0h_ (889 posts) -

just cause 2

#11 Posted by SeriouslyNow (8534 posts) -
@SteamPunkJin said:
" Also then you won't get used to thing that were added later - better guns, better motorcycle balancing, and parachutes just to name a few. "
...aaand a crappy rhythm dancing game followed by a chug the champagne game makes the list complete.
 
As someone who owns GTA IV on PC and 360 I can say that unequivocally Just Cause 2 is a much better and more modern sandbox experience than GTA IV.  There are so many weapons and vehicles in JC2 and a much larger map so even though it lacks multiplayer and even with ignoring the awesome parachute/ripcord aspect it just flattens GTA IV in almost ever aspect, except possibly story (and that's only if you happen to think that GTA IV's story is great which I did).
#12 Posted by zolika (110 posts) -

GTA

#13 Posted by buzz_killington (3532 posts) -

I you've played any driving or action or open-world game after 2007, GTA IV is almost unplayable. The controls suck beyond belief. It was acceptable when it came out, but it is unplayable now. Go straight to JC2.

#14 Posted by triple07 (1196 posts) -

Just Cause 2 it is a much better game than GTA 4

#15 Posted by TomA (2531 posts) -

just cause two it is awesome

#16 Posted by yakov456 (1905 posts) -

I liked both quite a bit, but the edge goes to JC2. A lot of fun.

#17 Posted by MAN_FLANNEL (2462 posts) -

GTA

#18 Posted by Coombs (3449 posts) -
#19 Posted by trophyhunter (5800 posts) -

well do you want a fun game or a shitty 2 year old game?

#20 Posted by Captain_Insano (1535 posts) -

GTAIV

#21 Posted by Gabriel (4061 posts) -

GTA IV

#22 Posted by ez123 (1956 posts) -

GTA 4 and TLAD(only one I played) are awesome.
 
Get GTA4, it got GOTY from sites such as Giantbomb.com.

#23 Posted by Yukoei (1878 posts) -
@trophyhunter said:
" well do you want a fun game or a shitty 2 year old game? "
I hope you're not saying that it is shit because it's two years old.
#24 Posted by kermoosh (911 posts) -

depends
 -----Gta an amazing game, good gameplay, story and generally fun
------ Just cause, (ive only played the demo) has fun gimmicks from a less serious point of view
 
 just cause can be more fun, since its nonrealistic,  but GTA in my opinion is way better and you will get 50-60 hours of gameplay just from beating the game and dlc once, after beating it, theres still plenty of extra stuff to do in the campaign, also multiplayer
So i'd go with GTA all the way

#25 Posted by jakob187 (21663 posts) -
@Coombs said:
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This should make the decision super fucking easy. 
 
Man, why am I not playing Just Cause 2 yet?!  GRRRRRR
#26 Posted by trophyhunter (5800 posts) -
@Yukoei said:
" @trophyhunter said:
" well do you want a fun game or a shitty 2 year old game? "
I hope you're not saying that it is shit because it's two years old. "
no no no I thought it was one of the worse games I've ever played 2 years ago. now it's crap and outdated.
#27 Posted by Getz (2997 posts) -

If you haven't played Saints Row 2, buy that instead of either as it's only 20 dollars and hella fun.

#28 Posted by trophyhunter (5800 posts) -
@Getz said:
" If you haven't played Saints Row 2, buy that instead of either as it's only 20 dollars and hella fun. "
damn straight
#29 Posted by masternater27 (918 posts) -

Well, what part about previous GTAs did you like the most?  If you chose the presentation, setting, and story then GTA IV.  If you had more fun randomly opening fire on cars and spawning tanks and shit Just Cause 2.  Both are great imo.

#30 Posted by t0ykiller (18 posts) -

Given that both games are a ton of fun, I'd suggest getting GTA then by the time you are done with that, Just Cause 2 may be cheaper, then you can snag that :) (also GTA has multiplayer... I dont know how active the community is on that...atleast on consoles... PC version still has people playing).
#31 Posted by Coombs (3449 posts) -

Which sounds better?
 
GTA - open world style game with a focus on stealing & driving cars
 or 
JC2 - open world style game with a focus on MAYHEM!!!

#32 Posted by jkz (4009 posts) -

Gameplay was never GTAIV's strong-suit, but now that it's two years later, the issues with its controls really stand out; I'd say go with Just Cause 2, although even with that I'd suggest you just rent.

#33 Posted by boon (16 posts) -
  • Hummers with turrets
  • boats
  • jets
  • helicopters
  • exploding silos
  • stereotypical voice acting
  •  helicopters with rockets
  • airship night clubs
  • RPGs
  • strippers
  • helicopters
  • sky diving
  • stunt position
  • massive map consisting of  beautiful islands that get destroyed by you
  
 If you like to have fun while you play a game, you should get Just Cause 2.  It's pretty good, and it'll make you a better person.
#34 Posted by nickhimself (71 posts) -

GTA IV was terrible. 
 
Just Cause 2 seems pretty fun.

#35 Posted by HT101 (1153 posts) -

I would say that GTA 4 is a great game in terms of storytelling even if the controls are a little janky.  You do get used to them after a while though.  I have not played much of Just Cause 2 but what I have played was pretty awesome.  I don't think you could go wrong with either choice.

#36 Posted by jeterman29ny (21 posts) -

Hands down Just Cause 2!!

#37 Posted by Robiin (294 posts) -

I have played through GTA IV (one and a half time, plus TLAD), only played demo of JC2.
 
Just Cause 2 is much better from a gameplay point of view. I liked previous GTA:s because I just wanted to rampage and blow stuff up. This is not what GTA IV is. In GTA IV, Rockstar changed the direction dramatically, and went for story and cutscenes instead. From what I've seen, that is Just Cause 2:s weak point.
 
So, 
GTA IV if you like story.
Just Cause 2 if you like gameplay (and to blow shit up).

#38 Posted by Mmmslash (2168 posts) -

I agree with almost everyone here.
 
Basically:
 
GTAIV: If you want a strong narrative, and don't mind unintuitive controls and vehicle handling that (While I grew to love more than any other) takes some adjusting.
 
Just Cause 2: If you want to be a motherfucking secret agent, action hero, movie star, banging chicks and flying helicopters and shit.
 
Saints Row 2: If you loved GTA: VC and GTA: SA, this game is entirely for you. Buy it TWICE.

#39 Posted by HistoryInRust (6293 posts) -

Everyone is claiming the controls in GTA IV are really janky, but I find the controls in Just Cause 2 to be just as awkward, if not moreso. There's definitely a learning curve to the way both games feel, but I actually think GTA is the more rewarding game. "Blowing shit up" is a pretty shallow premise for me, and it doesn't take long for me to grow tired of that sort of thing when it's not driven and justified by a strong narrative. It's the reason why I didn't like Crackdown--it's all sort of mindless and the idea of causing chaos just for the sake of causing chaos gets old pretty quickly. 
 
GTA, contrary to popular opinion, is the more dynamic game. The narrative aside, the game's physics engine is still relatively unmatched in the world of sandbox games, and I quite enjoy the driving controls (though, a lot of people take issue with the driving mechanics). The shooting is much more satisfying in GTA, the guns feel and sound better, and the targeting system allows you to be more accurate. The cover system is a bit weird, especially in indoor, cramped environments, but I'd take it over the hollow run-and-gun of Just Cause. 
 
GTA has its share of quirks, to be sure, and the game feels really "heavy"--everything has a lot of mass and weight. The physics dominate the gamespace. But there is always something to do, even beyond the simple notion of "I'm going to blow this crane up for the sake of it." Plus, like everyone has already mentioned, the narrative is a lot more interesting. 
 
Get GTA. You won't be disappointed.

#40 Posted by SeriouslyNow (8534 posts) -
@Sir_Ragnarok said:
" Everyone is claiming the controls in GTA IV are really janky, but I find the controls in Just Cause 2 to be just as awkward, if not moreso. There's definitely a learning curve to the way both games feel, but I actually think GTA is the more rewarding game. "Blowing shit up" is a pretty shallow premise for me, and it doesn't take long for me to grow tired of that sort of thing when it's not driven and justified by a strong narrative. It's the reason why I didn't like Crackdown--it's all sort of mindless and the idea of causing chaos just for the sake of causing chaos gets old pretty quickly.   GTA, contrary to popular opinion, is the more dynamic game. The narrative aside, the game's physics engine is still relatively unmatched in the world of sandbox games, and I quite enjoy the driving controls (though, a lot of people take issue with the driving mechanics). The shooting is much more satisfying in GTA, the guns feel and sound better, and the targeting system allows you to be more accurate. The cover system is a bit weird, especially in indoor, cramped environments, but I'd take it over the hollow run-and-gun of Just Cause.   GTA has its share of quirks, to be sure, and the game feels really "heavy"--everything has a lot of mass and weight. The physics dominate the gamespace. But there is always something to do, even beyond the simple notion of "I'm going to blow this crane up for the sake of it." Plus, like everyone has already mentioned, the narrative is a lot more interesting.   Get GTA. You won't be disappointed. "
GTA's physics engine is actually pretty poor.  Such as when you drive a car up to the curb at high speed and flip it.  That's not realistic by any means.  What GTA IV has which no other sandbox game has is Euphoria for dynamic NPC animations.  To say that GTA IV is a dynamic game is actually a lie.  It's a an extremely linear sandbox experience set in a very dynamic sandbox environment.  The dynamism of the world comes down the Rockstar's design work which makes Liberty City really 'pop' because it does look, talk and move convincingly.  That said once you're about 40% into the main story of GTA IV and all 3 islands are accessible, it becomes clear that the game is extremely repetitive and limited from an actual gameplay per mission perspective. The narrative does pull things along but it's does little to hide the shallow and dated nature of the mission play.  Also, the cover system is awful.
#41 Posted by Godlyawesomeguy (6398 posts) -

Grand Theft Auto IV. Easy choice.

#42 Posted by Quacktastic (1066 posts) -

I'm in the same boat.  I only want to buy one game - so either the GTA4 expansions for $40 or JC2.  The JC2 demo was a lot of fun and I liked GTA4 a lot, flaws aside.
 
I'm leaning to the GTA4 episodes.

#43 Posted by AhmadMetallic (18955 posts) -
@TrippinBungalow: this should have been a poll. And although i am fucking LOVING JC2 right now, GTA IV is god.
#44 Posted by ProfessorEss (7323 posts) -

Doesn't matter, it's a win-win situation in my opinion.


#45 Posted by Spongetwan (202 posts) -

I am kinda surprised that Just cause 2 got so many votes. Ill have to give it a try

#46 Posted by Clinkz (1118 posts) -
@trophyhunter said:
" @Yukoei said:
" @trophyhunter said:
" well do you want a fun game or a shitty 2 year old game? "
I hope you're not saying that it is shit because it's two years old. "
no no no I thought it was one of the worse games I've ever played 2 years ago. now it's crap and outdated. "
I agree. Why did I buy it?
#47 Posted by Psych0Penguin (412 posts) -

REALLY comes down to one question you must asked yourself: 
 
Do you wanna play as a Russian or a Spaniard???

#48 Posted by nywt (439 posts) -

I'm going to suggest GTA 4. While I haven't played either of the expansions, GTA 4 is a stellar game. I have played Just Cause 2 for about 12 hours so far and it's starting to wear on me. It doesn't seem like it will have a lot of lasting appeal and I am going to probably end up putting it down for a while to play something else. I never felt that way with GTA 4 and I played through that entire game in less than a week.    

#49 Posted by HistoryInRust (6293 posts) -
@nywt said:
" I'm going to suggest GTA 4. While I haven't played either of the expansions, GTA 4 is a stellar game. I have played Just Cause 2 for about 12 hours so far and it's starting to wear on me. It doesn't seem like it will have a lot of lasting appeal and I am going to probably end up putting it down for a while to play something else. I never felt that way with GTA 4 and I played through that entire game in less than a week.     "
I liked the expansions a lot. I don't feel that the mechanics feel all that dated like everyone is so prone to claim, but the game does feel sluggish in comparison to more recent, twitchier shooters and open-world games. 
 
For me, it boils down to the fact that GTA can be both methodical and chaotic, where Just Cause is sort of nonstop wanton destruction.
#50 Posted by Jayross (2365 posts) -

Well... if you don't own GTAIV, and haven't played it, GTA4 will give you a much better value. People might say the graphics don't hold up (a hard argument to support), but GTA has multiplayer and a very good story, in addition to sandbox action. 
 
GTA:

  • Sandbox action: 4/5
  • Singleplayer: 5/5
  • Multiplayer 4/5
JC2
  • Sandbox action: 5/5
  • Singleplayer: 4/5
  • Multiplayer: 0/5, has no multiplayer.

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