Dear KZ3 Community: There are 7 other maps.

#1 Edited by Spoonman671 (4588 posts) -

Yo, this game Killzone 3 came out recently and I'm playing some sweet multiplayer.  It has this awesome mode called Warzone: Salamun Market which is pretty awesome!  But today I made a discovery!  Salamun Market isn't a game mode at all!  It's just one map!  There are seven others!  Maybe we can try those, too!
 
Seriously, people, play something other than Salamun Market.  I've rarely been able to get into a full game on any other map.

#2 Posted by buft (3315 posts) -

that sucks

#3 Edited by Venatio (4491 posts) -

Man this is one of the worst things about multiplayer games, when people fall in love with a map and play it constantly

#5 Edited by Spoonman671 (4588 posts) -
@Venatio said:

" Man this is one of the wort things about multiplayer games, when people fall in love with a map and play it constantly "

Remember Radec Academy in Killzone 2?  It wasn't even that good a map.
 
Of course the reason Salamun Market is so popular in KZ3 is because it's part of the retro map pack and people know it from KZ2.
 
@drag said:
" What kind of stuff do they sell at the Salamun market?  "

Pain!
#6 Posted by Yodasdarkside (276 posts) -

I fucking LOVED Radec Academy!  It was unfairly weighted in the ISA's favour, but still a ton of fun.  I hope they add it for DLC fof KZ3 soon.

#7 Posted by N7 (3580 posts) -

You're just going to have to delete your game-data like most people until GG patches in a fix for the "infinite loop". I used to think nobody played this game because it wouldn't put me in anything other than a 3 person game of Salamun Market. But once you delete the DLC, you'll find whatever you're looking for.
 
I know, I know, you shouldn't have to delete your game data. None of us should, but from the looks of it, GG doesn't have a patch in the works for at least another few weeks(At least until the patch comes out next week), and this is the only fix for it.
 
Certainly sucks, because I'd love to play Salamun Market, but once it's installed, that's all I play.

#8 Posted by Spoonman671 (4588 posts) -
@N7:  You know you can manually select other maps, right?  The only problems are that they're never all that populated, once you map-select maps don't cycle anymore, and selecting the "Any" map option always puts you in Salamun Market.
#9 Posted by N7 (3580 posts) -
@Spoonman671 said:
" @N7:  You know you can manually select other maps, right?  The only problems are that they're never all that populated, once you map-select maps don't cycle anymore, and selecting the "Any" map option always puts you in Salamun Market. "
Yeah, that's another thing. The matchmaking sucks in this game. It seems like when you manually select a map to play, it will put you in the least populated room(Or at least that's what it does for me). For instance, I'd set it to find a Frozen Dam game, and when I joined, there was like a 3 Vs. 4 going on. That's waaay to small for me, so I pulled out, set it to "any" and rolled the dice. Well, it put me into a full Frozen Dam game and I kept on trucking, because I've learned not to think too hard on what happens in Killzone anymore.
 
This was after I deleted the DLC btw. If I didn't, I'd just get Salamun Market over and over again.
#10 Posted by Afroman269 (7387 posts) -

Hopefully enough people will complain that will get to fixing this shit. Despite the stupid problems that should have been avoided at first, I'm still enjoying the multiplayer quite a lot. Personally I just want them to add more fucking operations missions/maps.

#11 Posted by Spoonman671 (4588 posts) -
@Afroman269 said:
" Hopefully enough people will complain that will get to fixing this shit. Despite the stupid problems that should have been avoided at first, I'm still enjoying the multiplayer quite a lot. Personally I just want them to add more fucking operations missions/maps. "
Yeah, I was surprised that the game only shipped with three maps for the operations mode.  It's a shame because the progressive objectives of that mode really help to organize the battlefield in a way that very few games are able to.
#12 Posted by ComradeKhan (687 posts) -
@Spoonman671: Its because its a DLC map. You need to manually choose a different map and then you will be able to vote for any map you want in the playlist... but if you get into a match of Salamun Market then it will just keep playing that continually - its NOT because people are choosing that map - all the other maps have full matches too.
#13 Posted by SadPatrol (500 posts) -

But it's the best map.........

#14 Posted by the_OFFICIAL_jAPanese_teaBAG (4308 posts) -
@Spoonman671: 
i got tired of Radec's Academy cause of all the people spamming with the rockets.  i guess thats why liked playing it a lot?
#15 Posted by Hilikus (279 posts) -

As there is but only de_dust 2, so too is there only Salamun Market. So sayeth our Lord.

#16 Posted by Skald (4367 posts) -

I don't have that problem at all. It's the infiltrators and explosive spammers that will get you.

#17 Posted by Gabriel (4058 posts) -

Nuketown.

#18 Posted by Spoonman671 (4588 posts) -
@ComradeKhan said:
" @Spoonman671: Its because its a DLC map. You need to manually choose a different map and then you will be able to vote for any map you want in the playlist... but if you get into a match of Salamun Market then it will just keep playing that continually - its NOT because people are choosing that map - all the other maps have full matches too. "
I don't think that's actually what's going on.  I doubt the game is selecting Salamun Market over other maps simply because it is DLC.  I think it is much more likely that players are purposefully choosing Salamun Market, and then being locked into it because it is DLC and has it's own playlist so as not to conflict with players that don't have it, thereby perpetuating the increasing number of lobbies for that particular map.
 
At least that's what makes sense to me.  I could, of course, be completely wrong.
#19 Posted by canucks23 (1087 posts) -
@Spoonman671:  I got this issue too. It's literally impossible for me to get into a warzone game that's not salamun market unless i join a friends game who doesn't have the map pack. Same with blood gratch for TDM. I think they actually might've just fucked up with the matchmaking somehow, cuz when i search for games on a specific map that's not that map i'm getting into like 3 people lobbies.
#20 Posted by N7 (3580 posts) -
@canucks23 said:
" @Spoonman671:  I got this issue too. It's literally impossible for me to get into a warzone game that's not salamun market unless i join a friends game who doesn't have the map pack. Same with blood gratch for TDM. I think they actually might've just fucked up with the matchmaking somehow, cuz when i search for games on a specific map that's not that map i'm getting into like 3 people lobbies. "
I'm telling you guys, just delete your Game Data Utility and you'll notice a huge difference. And if you don't, well, it takes about five minutes to redownload/install, so not a huge loss anyway. But you will notice a difference. I guarantee it.
#21 Posted by ComradeKhan (687 posts) -
@Spoonman671 said:
" @ComradeKhan said:
" @Spoonman671: Its because its a DLC map. You need to manually choose a different map and then you will be able to vote for any map you want in the playlist... but if you get into a match of Salamun Market then it will just keep playing that continually - its NOT because people are choosing that map - all the other maps have full matches too. "
I don't think that's actually what's going on.  I doubt the game is selecting Salamun Market over other maps simply because it is DLC.  I think it is much more likely that players are purposefully choosing Salamun Market, and then being locked into it because it is DLC and has it's own playlist so as not to conflict with players that don't have it, thereby perpetuating the increasing number of lobbies for that particular map.  At least that's what makes sense to me.  I could, of course, be completely wrong. "
That's what I was trying to say... it has its own playlist... So just manually choose a different map and then it will lockout Salamun Market from the map rotation. 
The same thing happens with "Blood Gracht". It has it own playlist... But all the other maps have full games too.
#22 Posted by Skald (4367 posts) -

Come to think of it, I've only played on Salamun Market once.

#23 Posted by canucks23 (1087 posts) -
@N7 said:
" @canucks23 said:
" @Spoonman671:  I got this issue too. It's literally impossible for me to get into a warzone game that's not salamun market unless i join a friends game who doesn't have the map pack. Same with blood gratch for TDM. I think they actually might've just fucked up with the matchmaking somehow, cuz when i search for games on a specific map that's not that map i'm getting into like 3 people lobbies. "
I'm telling you guys, just delete your Game Data Utility and you'll notice a huge difference. And if you don't, well, it takes about five minutes to redownload/install, so not a huge loss anyway. But you will notice a difference. I guarantee it. "
That's because it deletes the maps...
#24 Posted by N7 (3580 posts) -
@canucks23 said:
" @N7 said:
" @canucks23 said:
" @Spoonman671:  I got this issue too. It's literally impossible for me to get into a warzone game that's not salamun market unless i join a friends game who doesn't have the map pack. Same with blood gratch for TDM. I think they actually might've just fucked up with the matchmaking somehow, cuz when i search for games on a specific map that's not that map i'm getting into like 3 people lobbies. "
I'm telling you guys, just delete your Game Data Utility and you'll notice a huge difference. And if you don't, well, it takes about five minutes to redownload/install, so not a huge loss anyway. But you will notice a difference. I guarantee it. "
That's because it deletes the maps... "
Well, yeah. That's the point. If you don't want to play those maps, then you'll have to delete them because the game forces people into the DLC maps instead of other maps. Especially until GG patches it. Check out other forums, there are people with the same problems. By choosing a map to play in, you get put in games that are pretty much empty because the matchmaking in this game is pretty iffy.
#25 Posted by McQuinn (651 posts) -

Yeah Salamun Market isn't good enough to lose the option to rotate maps. I deleted that shit, but really I never should have needed to in the first place.

#26 Posted by McNaastyy (114 posts) -

SEE you on Blood Crotch!!!

#27 Posted by Chojin (107 posts) -
@Spoonman671 said:

" @ComradeKhan said:

" @Spoonman671: Its because its a DLC map. You need to manually choose a different map and then you will be able to vote for any map you want in the playlist... but if you get into a match of Salamun Market then it will just keep playing that continually - its NOT because people are choosing that map - all the other maps have full matches too. "
I don't think that's actually what's going on.  I doubt the game is selecting Salamun Market over other maps simply because it is DLC.  I think it is much more likely that players are purposefully choosing Salamun Market, and then being locked into it because it is DLC and has it's own playlist so as not to conflict with players that don't have it, thereby perpetuating the increasing number of lobbies for that particular map.  At least that's what makes sense to me.  I could, of course, be completely wrong. "
 

I usually play with a friend who doesn’t have the retro maps, and we always get into full games on all the different maps. But as soon as he leaves the squad I`m stuck with Salamun market and 4 other people. Over and over again, no matter how many times I try. If he comes back and rejoins the squad, we`re back to normal.

#28 Posted by GunstarRed (5103 posts) -

Before I was able to get into Warzone matches I had to play a bunch of Guerilla Warfare and it was the same thing... that damn snowdrift level over and over and over and over, I just don't understand it, it's such an annoying map.
#29 Posted by Ramone (2961 posts) -

I don't understand why devs have map voting in games. Just pick one for us and we'll play it.

#30 Posted by Enigma777 (6070 posts) -

It's a stupid bug. Doesn't only happen in Salamun Market though. Once I played Turbine whatever 3 times in a roll since it wouldn't let us vote on a new map...

#31 Posted by ComradeKhan (687 posts) -
@Chojin said:

" @Spoonman671 said:

" @ComradeKhan said:

" @Spoonman671: Its because its a DLC map. You need to manually choose a different map and then you will be able to vote for any map you want in the playlist... but if you get into a match of Salamun Market then it will just keep playing that continually - its NOT because people are choosing that map - all the other maps have full matches too. "
I don't think that's actually what's going on.  I doubt the game is selecting Salamun Market over other maps simply because it is DLC.  I think it is much more likely that players are purposefully choosing Salamun Market, and then being locked into it because it is DLC and has it's own playlist so as not to conflict with players that don't have it, thereby perpetuating the increasing number of lobbies for that particular map.  At least that's what makes sense to me.  I could, of course, be completely wrong. "
 

I usually play with a friend who doesn’t have the retro maps, and we always get into full games on all the different maps. But as soon as he leaves the squad I`m stuck with Salamun market and 4 other people. Over and over again, no matter how many times I try. If he comes back and rejoins the squad, we`re back to normal.

"
Same here, my brother doesn't have the maps and I play with him most of the time so we get into all of the maps on the rotation. Its kinda stupid how it works - putting Salamun Market and Blood Gracht in their own playlist.
#32 Edited by Zidd (1841 posts) -

Try telling the millions that play counter-strike that there are other maps than de_dust2 and cs_assault. This happens in every game which is probably why map counts in games are shrinking.

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