So, Erm, Natal Doesn't Work When You Sit Down

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#-49 Posted by Diamond (8634 posts) -

WiiFit didn't fail because that was a standing thing.  Motion controls haven't failed because you need to be moving your arms around all the time.  Your reap what you sow.  This is the athletically fit nightmare all those Wii fans created.  Now enjoy.  The next Nintendo console will require you to stand on your head while playing.

#-48 Posted by JFetch (119 posts) -

My guess is that it can't tell what's you, and what's the couch. It looks like one big fat wide load person to the Kinect.

#-47 Posted by HatKing (5871 posts) -

Well... I thought the $150 price tag was enough to push me away.
#-46 Posted by OllyOxenFree (4970 posts) -
@The_Laughing_Man said:
" I got a question thats been on my mind. Wii and Move have analog stick..but how will you move " Forward back words and side to side" with kentic? How would you navigate in a FPS? Or something like that?  "


#-45 Posted by The_Laughing_Man (13629 posts) -
@OllyOxenFree said:
" @The_Laughing_Man said:
" I got a question thats been on my mind. Wii and Move have analog stick..but how will you move " Forward back words and side to side" with kentic? How would you navigate in a FPS? Or something like that?  "

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Will you have to approach and back away from it? Cause well..there is only so much room. Will you lean back and forth? 
 
We saw a demo for a star wars game. However it was very staged. He did not move to go forward. 
#-44 Posted by Lunar_Aura (2779 posts) -

@The_Laughing_Man said:

" @OllyOxenFree said:
 
Will you have to approach and back away from it? Cause well..there is only so much room. Will you lean back and forth?  We saw a demo for a star wars game. However it was very staged. He did not move to go forward.  "


Hopefully to move forward you stick your right leg out and to move back you stick it back.

#-43 Edited by natetodamax (19191 posts) -

So far Microsoft has eliminated two groups of people: 
 

  1. Those with small living rooms/bedrooms
  2. Those who have trouble standing up
 
Congrats Microsoft
#-42 Edited by gike987 (1752 posts) -
@natetodamax said:

" So far Microsoft has eliminated two groups of people: 
 

  1. Those with small living rooms/bedrooms
  2. Those who have trouble standing up
 Congrats Microsoft "
" In more than a few demos, Kinect didn't always understand what people were saying. And these were folks without accents and in rooms without a lot of echo or noise. "
 
Looks like they eliminated everyone with an accent too (at least form using the voice recognition).
#-41 Posted by agentboolen (1757 posts) -

i don't know how much better this will work then the stupid PS2 eye toy, but that Eye toy I always had a problem just getting enough light for the freakin thing to work.  I know this thing works with a camera so I'm still very hesitant.

#-40 Posted by septim (774 posts) -

I don't see why people are so jazzed about the hand gesturing anyways. Yeah it will be cool to use a few times, a nice thing to show off at parties, but at the end of the day I'll take my Logitech Harmony any day of the week.
 
This Kinect thing has potential. But as it stands it looks half baked at best. This thing is simply not ready for launch. Neither the hardware or software is up to par.

#-39 Posted by WinterSnowblind (7614 posts) -

Well, after all that Microsoft have clarified the issue and IGN have updated their article. 
Turns out they were completely wrong about almost every one of their points.  More quality journalisim from IGN.
#-38 Posted by jonnyboy (2920 posts) -

This function has always struck me as fucking useless, unless you can use the voice commands to turn on the 360 from standby, you'll already have a controller in your hands.

#-37 Posted by Gamer_152 (14065 posts) -

Oh damn, this is a bit of a bombshell. I wasn't exactly expecting to be relaxing in my seat for Dance Central or Kinect Sports but every time I want to navigate a menu, play a racing game or command an RTS I have to be on my feet? I sure as hell hope Microsoft fix this before release (although from what they've shown this thing seems to be nearing the end of it's development cycle) because it will be catastrophic if they don't.

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#-36 Posted by Insectecutor (1186 posts) -

This story smacks of bullshit to me. I bet it works fine.

#-35 Posted by Binman88 (3685 posts) -
@septim said:
" I don't see why people are so jazzed about the hand gesturing anyways. Yeah it will be cool to use a few times, a nice thing to show off at parties, but at the end of the day I'll take my Logitech Harmony any day of the week.  This Kinect thing has potential. But as it stands it looks half baked at best. This thing is simply not ready for launch. Neither the hardware or software is up to par. "
Yeah. I'm not gonna say the way we interact with user interfaces is perfect at the moment--far from it--, but I'm strongly against the "no device/remote" interfaces, at least in their current form. I think the problem is not in the way we interact with interfaces, but rather the way those interfaces react to our interactions.
#-34 Posted by DuhQbnSiLo (2139 posts) -

I figured that because it uses your whole body... so i don't think it would be able to read you if your sitting down.

#-33 Posted by Whisperkill (2969 posts) -

Wasn't that girl in the video chat sitting down?

#-32 Posted by get2sammyb (6412 posts) -
@WinterSnowblind said:
" Well, after all that Microsoft have clarified the issue and IGN have updated their article. Turns out they were completely wrong about almost every one of their points.  More quality journalisim from IGN. "
I still don't think it's been debunked entirely though. IGN are still reporting that developers have told them it just flat-out doesn't work, contrary to what Microsoft have said.
#-31 Posted by Jazz (2251 posts) -

Its MS hardware. 
Is anyone really surprised? 
Just be happy it doesn't explode when you touch your nose or something. 
 
I'm sure once identified MS will fix it if they can.

#-30 Posted by Steve_C (1750 posts) -
#-29 Posted by Interfect (978 posts) -

Thats okay. When I want to pet my cat I just stand up and extend my arms out and hope he jumps into my arms... So this is awesome.

#-28 Posted by Lydian_Sel (2483 posts) -
@Green_Incarnate said:
" This seems crazy, if true. Huge oversight on Microsoft. "
Thank you yes. This seems completely baffling & contrary to everything companies know about how video games are played. How many people really play their Wii games standing the whole time anyway? I know I played Mario Galaxy sitting comfortably in an arm chair.
#-27 Posted by get2sammyb (6412 posts) -
#-26 Posted by skrutop (3615 posts) -

Sounds like total bullshit to me.

#-25 Posted by Vorbis (2750 posts) -

It needs to be fixed, maybe this is why Fable 3 hasn't given any Kinect details, probably waiting for the tech to work with sitting down.

#-24 Posted by CL60 (16906 posts) -
@septim said:
"This thing is simply not ready for launch. Neither the hardware or software is up to par. "
It's not coming out for a while..so no it's not ready for launch.
#-23 Posted by Danbo (191 posts) -

Stand up? And play xbox? Even back when I was an active 14  year old I would have been disgusted at the idea.

#-22 Posted by EliasT (671 posts) -

Kinect just sucks, this year's E3 was just BAD.

#-21 Posted by Murtaug (308 posts) -

This is just another reason I will not ever jump on the band wagon with these games. I live in a house with fairly small rooms for the most part, not tiny, just not big enough to flail around in. Also, I have all my gaming gear set up in a room on the second floor, and jumping around up there is not an option. This is an old house, floors are solid, but they have some give; a couple of two hundred pound guys kicking and hopping around is not going to be good for the walls and ceiling below us. Hell, a good round of Rock Band makes a lot of noise for any one down stairs, and that is just from people banging on drums and moving around with guitars.
 
I do not have a Nintendo Wii, and of course no Move, but both of those seem more likely to work in the conditions I have. If I could lean back in my easy chair and wave my arms around with Natal, sigh, Kinect, I could consider it in the future. Until then, I am just really put off by all motion controls period.

#-20 Posted by TwoOneFive (9459 posts) -

yeaaahhh i saw this topic on neogaf. this is automatic failure if it doesnt work. like i've said before, the only thing worth playing on kinect so far is a dance game. other than that, its pointless.  
 
and why does espn thing and menu navigation have to be done using gestures??? i dont get the appeal of this at all.  
we all saw how it works. its wayyyyyyyy slower than just using  a controller and a bit tedious. even the voice commands were slow and boring. 

#-19 Posted by beatlebrainiac (173 posts) -

It seems weird to me that you wouldn't be able to use this sitting down when they've shown so many racing games as demonstrations of the hardware. I mean, who drives a car of any kind standing up? That's just weird.

#-18 Posted by Clinkz (1118 posts) -

I hope this thing ends up working because so far I'm missing the buttons that Sony and Nintendo have.
 

#-17 Posted by CL60 (16906 posts) -

You are all forgetting that it is still far away from being released.

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