Serious question. I know alot of people like to troll by comparing the two, and I'm not trying to do that. I guess I'm not exactly technically savvy, and I was just wondering if anyone smarter than me could give some technical details on what makes it better/different. Thanks GB community! <>
 
PS Dance Central looks awesome.

Well the short version is that the Kinect camera is a 3D camera, like the 3DS has, and therefore it can capture depth, AKA judge how far away the player is and such, while the PS Eye camera is just a regular camera. 
There probably is a lot more to it than that but this is the major difference between the two.

Kinect captures 3d images and has fairly sophisticated tech for processing those images. The eye is pretty much just a camera.

Ah, that makes sense I guess. So then my next question is, how well will it perform in different environments? I know the EyeToy had alot of trouble getting enough light, and I'm curious if I'm going to have to bring in a bunch of lamps to play the Kinect.

Anyone got any examples to how the 3D stuff in the Kinect works. Like, which games have they shown so far which really takes advantage of the fact that the camera picks up on the depth in the "frame". Cause I can't recall having seen any games so far doing that. Not any different than the EyeToy that is.

" Anyone got any examples to how the 3D stuff in the Kinect works. Like, which games have they shown so far which really takes advantage of the fact that the camera picks up on the depth in the "frame". Cause I can't recall having seen any games so far doing that. Not any different than the EyeToy that is. "

Kinect actually KINECTS you to the game. That eyetoy is just an eyetoy.

are you talking about the EYETOY or do you mean the PS EYE?

Thought they were the same thing, to be honest. I guess the PSEye if it's the newer version.

" @Semition:  Yeah, I get that. I was just wondering if there actually were any games taking advantage of this 3D camera stuff. Cause so far from what I've seen from E3 it doesn't seem like any of the announced Kinect games does. Or I'm just not getting how the technology works. "

I actually like alot of the Kinect stuff they've shown, I'm just having a hard time swallowing the bitter pill that is the pricing so far. 60 bucks seems harsh for what alot of these games are offering.

Well, their are two cameras, a sensor and a motor on the bottom to move. What I really want to know is what that sensor thing picks up

" @SPACETURTLE: The "game" requires you to kick forward. For a 2D camera, kicking right and kicking forward-right looks extremely similar, because its only from one view. With the 3D camera, it's able to detect whether a person is moving forward and backwards and exactly how far. "

I think Sony said that they could give the PS eye Kinect functionality with a software update. If i recall correctly 

" I think Sony said that they could give the PS eye Kinect functionality with a software update. If i recall correctly  "

" @SPACETURTLE:   Yeah. That's the thing, in most things, Kinetic is more precise, what gives a much wider range of games. You can have a precise fitness game, and a great workout without leaving the room.   It was other things like voice commands, that you can see with the hands off controls on the xbox they already implemented and showed on stage.  But like in most things, it's still in the infant stage. People are just start to explore the tech.  "

" @SPACETURTLE: The "game" requires you to kick forward. For a 2D camera, kicking right and kicking forward-right looks extremely similar, because its only from one view. With the 3D camera, it's able to detect whether a person is moving forward and backwards and exactly how far. "

" I think Sony said that they could give the PS eye Kinect functionality with a software update. If i recall correctly  "

" I think Sony said that they could give the PS eye Kinect functionality with a software update. If i recall correctly  "

the eyetoy or playstation eye can only see in 2d, kinect can see in 3d. with a 2d camera you can still pull off some of the things kinect can do, but it would be very hard for it to make a 3d interpretation of you by just measuring your body parts. it could track you like it dose move by measuring you and adjusting the depth by how big our small you get, but if could easily lose track in a low lit room or with the same color clothes etc. you would have to put on colored gloves and shoes for it to track you and im sure even then it would mess up.
 
with the technology they use in kinect it can easily track a punch or kick no matter how you do it, and it has less of a chance or losing track in a low lit room, or because of the clothes you wear. in terms of games it seams you can play it more naturally then you did the eyetoy, you can punch at the screen rather then off to the side because your not limited to a 2d plane.
 
i personally have not seen a game that has made me think there is no way that this game could not done on an eyetoy like device, but this thing just came out. the tech to make it better is there we just need the one game to show people this is how you use it.

@MAN_FLANNEL:

I myself, don't think its that likely, but you know how rumors are. But for arguments sake, i have a work colleague who works at a university in Mancheaster in video design, making software for digital cameras and HD cameras used to film movies; and after watching the E3 coverage he said himself that a lot of that technology can be emulated with software.

and here is a link, stating some added functionality to the PS eye  http://www.destructoid.com/sony-s-new-pseye-features-taste-like-project-natal-140083.phtml

 http://www.joystiq.com/2010/06/19/kinect-how-it-works-from-the-company-behind-the-tech/ 
 
Basically the Kinect camera has some tech/processors on board that can recognize limbs and human shapes.  The Eyetoy is a basically a USB webcam from what I understand.

" I think Sony said that they could give the PS eye Kinect functionality with a software update. If i recall correctly  "

" @Jeust said:

" @SPACETURTLE:   Yeah. That's the thing, in most things, Kinetic is more precise, what gives a much wider range of games. You can have a precise fitness game, and a great workout without leaving the room.   It was other things like voice commands, that you can see with the hands off controls on the xbox they already implemented and showed on stage.  But like in most things, it's still in the infant stage. People are just start to explore the tech.  "

Yeah, it is still early on, you definitely got a point there. No, I'm really excited to see what will come for the Kinect in the future. But right now, the only thing that looks slightly interesting is the Kinect Adventure stuff. Man, that looks like fun. "And the water looks so realistic as well". 
 
@Semition said:

" @SPACETURTLE: The "game" requires you to kick forward. For a 2D camera, kicking right and kicking forward-right looks extremely similar, because its only from one view. With the 3D camera, it's able to detect whether a person is moving forward and backwards and exactly how far. "

I guess your right. You do have to kick forward to reach that cube / box. I just really want to see it in some real action you know. To see how good that tech really is. 
 
@eclipsesis said:

" I think Sony said that they could give the PS eye Kinect functionality with a software update. If i recall correctly  "

I'm not saying this is bullshit. But it sure sounds like it. Cause giving a 2D camera 3D functionality is crazy. "

 A bit defensive. Anyways all hardware can be simulated/emulated at some point, the software just needs to catch up.

If you check out my later post i say that i don't think its that possible, but a friend of mine who his a professional in his field, said it could be emulated, and i take his word over yours buddy. he did however mention that because the PS eye is not built like that, it would need a fixed reference point to which it could use to measure the depth of the person on the 3D platform.

What i think is good about Kinect is that it isn't just a camera like everyone states it is but is a combination of lots of technologies which come together to make the Kinect experience, its these other technologies which the PS eye couldn't emulate, this is however very broadly speaking.