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South Korea would probably opt for a zergling rush anyway.

um don't you mean North Korea? North and South are different countries

No South-Korea. Even if North Korea does not have atomic weapons (yet), they do have a shitload of artillery capable of obliterating Soul and other major cities of South Korea in less than one hour. Oh, and one of the worlds largest armies as well.

"Well I feel that south korea might take there chances in taking on the US, but they won't win.  I would think the russians would beat us.
"

My brother was an MLRS operator on the border in South Korea. Each MLRS unit can flatten a square kilometer at a moment's notice.

Believe me, if North Korea ever started anything, they would be steamrolled in minutes by South Korean and US forces.

... Not to mention that the US navy could surround the peninsula, or the fact that North Korea has never has a successful missile launch or that their military is technologically inferior.

"Believe me, if North Korea ever started anything, they would be steamrolled in minutes by South Korean and US forces."

"RichardLOlson said:

"Well I feel that south korea might take there chances in taking on the US, but they won't win.  I would think the russians would beat us.
"

wow you must think a lot of the US defences and armed forces, to say that they may be some of the largest in the world but they are the least proffesional and least skilled among the worlds modern armies."

"LaszloKovacs said:

"My brother was an MLRS operator on the border in South Korea. Each MLRS unit can flatten a square kilometer at a moment's notice.Believe me, if North Korea ever started anything, they would be steamrolled in minutes by South Korean and US forces."

What does it have to do with the U.S? two nations in far east fight, one loses and one wins. Some niggers should change their politics."

"LaszloKovacs said:

"Believe me, if North Korea ever started anything, they would be steamrolled in minutes by South Korean and US forces."

You clearly have no idea of how well prepared the North Korean army is. "

"LaszloKovacs said:

"Believe me, if North Korea ever started anything, they would be steamrolled in minutes by South Korean and US forces."

You clearly have no idea of how well prepared the North Korean army is. "

How has no one mentioned China getting involved yet? NK is right on their border and they must be getting something of worth from Kim Jong Il if they basically power his country.

"Aurelito said:

"LaszloKovacs said:

"My brother was an MLRS operator on the border in South Korea. Each MLRS unit can flatten a square kilometer at a moment's notice.Believe me, if North Korea ever started anything, they would be steamrolled in minutes by South Korean and US forces."

What does it have to do with the U.S? two nations in far east fight, one loses and one wins. Some niggers should change their politics."

I'm willing to bet you're either incredibly dumb, not in high school yet, or both."

"I dunno, they're an army full of conscripts who fight for the crazy personality cult that has most of their fellow countrymen starving in a hut somewhere.  I bet they're trained to follow a specific plan if an invasion was ever called for, but they'd scatter when those plans are shattered in real combat.  No one wants to risk their life for the crazy asshole who keeps them poor and hungry."

"What makes you think that South Korea isn't? Both sides have been preparing to end a potential conflict as quickly as possible since the last war ended."

"Crayola said:

"Aurelito said:

"LaszloKovacs said:

"My brother was an MLRS operator on the border in South Korea. Each MLRS unit can flatten a square kilometer at a moment's notice.Believe me, if North Korea ever started anything, they would be steamrolled in minutes by South Korean and US forces."

What does it have to do with the U.S? two nations in far east fight, one loses and one wins. Some niggers should change their politics."

I'm willing to bet you're either incredibly dumb, not in high school yet, or both."

I'm not a nerd with stop the war t shirts and shouting bullshit on the streets and my parents weren't vegetarians. I'm seeing it logically. why does an army fight for traceless things? I'm not an ignorant anti-American bitch as well but U.S politics considering wars were rather irrational lately."

LaszloKovacs said:

"What makes you think that South Korea isn't? Both sides have been preparing to end a potential conflict as quickly as possible since the last war ended."

I never said they weren't. But the North Korean goverment is almost exclusively dedicated to the armamentist race, plus they have one of the biggest and most organized armies (sp?) in the world. If a war ever starts I would bet all my money on North Korea winning, even if SK has the US backing them up.    "

"Aurelito said:

"Crayola said:

"Aurelito said:

"LaszloKovacs said:

"My brother was an MLRS operator on the border in South Korea. Each MLRS unit can flatten a square kilometer at a moment's notice.Believe me, if North Korea ever started anything, they would be steamrolled in minutes by South Korean and US forces."

What does it have to do with the U.S? two nations in far east fight, one loses and one wins. Some niggers should change their politics."

I'm willing to bet you're either incredibly dumb, not in high school yet, or both."

I'm not a nerd with stop the war t shirts and shouting bullshit on the streets and my parents weren't vegetarians. I'm seeing it logically. why does an army fight for traceless things? I'm not an ignorant anti-American bitch as well but U.S politics considering wars were rather irrational lately."

It's because the US has had a sizable force on alert there since the end of the Korean War over 50 years ago.And you're right, you're not a nerd. You're either functionally retarded or failing out of high school."

"HA!"

Doesn't the US have the biggest military budget in the world?  Would a large army be any good if the opponent has dominant air superiority?
If the kill/death ratio of the US military in recent warfare means something, then North Korea probably needs a military force tens of times larger then the US to make a stand.
And if it is North Korea that starts the war first, I believe the US will not be the only country backing up South Korea. UN will interfere.  Even China will be forced to take side with South Korea in order to show their stance against invading.

According to Jane's magazine, the US military ranked top in all category, including overall ranking, air force ranking, navy ranking, and army ranking.
North Korea ranked 10th in overall, both 13th in air force and navy, and 8th in army.
South Korea ranked 11th in overall, 16th in air force, 12th in navy, and 10th in army.
Statistic says that the chance for North Korea to win is very slim.

"Doesn't the US have the biggest military budget in the world?  Would a large army be any good if the opponent has dominant air superiority?If the kill/death ratio of the US military in recent warfare means something, then North Korea probably need a military force tens of times larger then the US to make a stand.And if it is North Korea that start the war first, I believe the US will not be the only country backing up South Korea. UN will interfere.  Even China will be forced to take side with South Korea in order to show their stance against invading.According to Jane's magazine, the US military ranked top in all category, including overall ranking, air force ranking, navy ranking, and army ranking.North Korea ranked 10th in overall, both 13th in air force and navy, and 8th in army.South Korea ranked 11th in overall, 16th in air force, 12th in navy, and 10th in army.Statistic says that the chance for North Korea to win is very slim."

... forcing Isral to join the conflict.

"First. North Koreas Army is concentrated in North Korea. The US army is thinly spread out all over the world, mostly where there are rich amounts of oil. They are involved in at least two wars and active in several conflicts. If the US would leave Iraq with a minimum of forces Iran would be quick to take advantage, forcing Isral to join the conflict. etc. etc. Weakened US presence in Afghanistan and (pakistan) would increase the clashes and possible lead to a civil war and as well greatly increase the chance for an increased conflict between India and Pakistan regarding Kashmir. China would probably stay out of the conflict or side with south korea (since they gain nothing from their relationship with north korea). Though if North Korea were attacked first they might help North Korea. If China would help defend south korea they would probably try to conquer parts of north korea which would act as a hot bed for future conflicts. If China gets involved in the conflict Taiwan might take a chance and separate even further from china which would force china to react (defend their territory, i.e. taiwan).  And if Japan and China (archenemies due to the atrocities of Japan during WW2) would come close to crossing swords well... then all hell would break loose. And I have not even covered the possible events in south america or previous soviet.Which brings me to the second point...Second: There would be no winners in this war."

Kim Jong Il might be crazy but hes not stupid. He wouldn't try anything before having nuclear capabilities for support.

"JudgeDread said: You make really good points. But could you please elaborate on the "possible events in South America" part? I'm just curious about what you mean with that. "

"Black_Rose said:

"JudgeDread said: You make really good points. But could you please elaborate on the "possible events in South America" part? I'm just curious about what you mean with that. "

conflict between venezuela+bolivia and colombia"

"eclipsesis said:

"RichardLOlson said:

"Well I feel that south korea might take there chances in taking on the US, but they won't win.  I would think the russians would beat us.
"

wow you must think a lot of the US defences and armed forces, to say that they may be some of the largest in the world but they are the least proffesional and least skilled among the worlds modern armies."

How can you make a claim like that?  I have no way to prove you right or wrong, but I doubt you have any facts to support the idea that our troops are less professional or skilled than any other nation."

i think the fact that 13 britsih troops were skilled by american friendly fire is all the evidence i need."

"MC_Izawa said:

"eclipsesis said:

"RichardLOlson said:

"Well I feel that south korea might take there chances in taking on the US, but they won't win.  I would think the russians would beat us.
"

wow you must think a lot of the US defences and armed forces, to say that they may be some of the largest in the world but they are the least proffesional and least skilled among the worlds modern armies."

How can you make a claim like that?  I have no way to prove you right or wrong, but I doubt you have any facts to support the idea that our troops are less professional or skilled than any other nation."

i think the fact that 13 britsih troops were skilled by american friendly fire is all the evidence i need."

"MC_Izawa said:

"eclipsesis said:

"RichardLOlson said:

"Well I feel that south korea might take there chances in taking on the US, but they won't win.  I would think the russians would beat us.
"

wow you must think a lot of the US defences and armed forces, to say that they may be some of the largest in the world but they are the least proffesional and least skilled among the worlds modern armies."

How can you make a claim like that?  I have no way to prove you right or wrong, but I doubt you have any facts to support the idea that our troops are less professional or skilled than any other nation."

i think the fact that 13 britsih troops were skilled by american friendly fire is all the evidence i need."

"eclipsesis said:

i think the fact that 13 britsih troops were skilled by american friendly fire is all the evidence i need."

is...is this a joke."

If you're seriously going to condemn an entire nation's armed forces because of a single friendly fire incident, I think you may be beyond helping.

I mean there have been single training exercise accidents that bad: http://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/12/nyregion/11-soldiers-feared-dead-in-crash-of-army-helicopter-at-fort-drum.html

Doesn't make the military incompetent, it just means their job is incredibly dangerous.

P.S. HandsomeDead I meant that it was ridiculous to make a claim of one friendly fire incident with no evidence or context and then use that as the basis to discount all of the military.

lol so let me get this straight? people that come to america cause they hate their own country and couldn't stand it? will then attack the country they came too because said country attacked the country they left and hated?
oooooooooooooookayyyyyyyyyyy...
AS for that I'm sure you can find just as many fuck ups in every army in history funny that you concentrate only on american fuck ups but will obviously gloss over other countries army fuck ups.
Oh and the friendly fire high rating might be because america has there nose in every major conflict since WW2 i don't believe the british armed forces have been in nearly as many conflicts on nearly a scale as america has since ww2.
Oh and i love how you use the whole agent orange, napalm...blah blah blah acting like no other country ever commited atrocities during wartime.
P.S: as well you talk about normandy if it was such a fuck up why did the british soldiers go? they obviously had no problem storming the beachheads.

P.P.S: your first post didn't sound like a hate on america post, but your 2nd post did you brought up every single bad thing when it comes to war time about america then distole the virtures of britain, knowing full well they've had fuck ups like any other army and have commited atrocities like any other country in battle.

"lol so let me get this straight? people that come to america cause they hate their own country and couldn't stand it? will then attack the country they came too because said country attacked the country they left and hated?oooooooooooooookayyyyyyyyyyy...AS for that I'm sure you can find just as many fuck ups in every army in history funny that you concentrate only on american fuck ups but will obviously gloss over other countries army fuck ups.Oh and the friendly fire high rating might be because america has there nose in every major conflict since WW2 i don't believe the british armed forces have been in nearly as many conflicts on nearly a scale as america has since ww2.Oh and i love how you use the whole agent orange, napalm...blah blah blah acting like no other country ever commited atrocities during wartime.P.S: as well you talk about normandy if it was such a fuck up why did the british soldiers go? they obviously had no problem storming the beachheads."

You are trying to attack the US.  You outright said they're the least skilled soldiers

If a war DOES break out, people best go for the objective and not go for a good K/D like in CTF on Halo... what? I can't be the ONLY one who hates that guy >_>

"You are trying to attack the US.  You outright said they're the least skilled soldiers."

Pretty sure North Korea has their side of the border with South Korea covered with a huge force, probably all artillery and mortar positions, for this exact reason. Why do you think South Korea hasn't ever bothered to march North? They'd be walking right into more artillery than was seen or used at the Somme in WW1. Not to mention as someone did state a lot of South Korean settlements are within range of said artillery.

It is a horrible situation going on over there because all it takes is one fanatic to cause so much destruction.

Yeah, the British are pretty cool guys.
Ever heard of the Second Boer War?  There was lots of gold in the area now known as South Africa.  The Brits wanted a piece of that action, so they sent agents to create an uprising.  It failed.  They attempted military action, but got their ass kicked by the local farmers.  They called in an assload of troops to ensure victory.  The troops adopted a scorched earth policy to prevent the guerrilla farmers from coming back.  They burned homes and fields, killed livestock, and poisoned drinking wells.  They then proceeded to take the wives and children of the fighters, now starving and homeless, and put them into concentration camps, where over 25,000 of them died of starvation and disease.  And that's not including what they did to the native blacks...

this is exactly what i didn't want to happn. Normandy was supposed to be a joint suprise attack emphisis on "JOINT"  "they had no problem storming them", thats a bit of a bold statement, they had climb a mountain face and neutralise 7 doug-outs, not exactly easy, the slaughter of the troops acted as a diversion.As for the imagration, yes of course they would its an attack there people, way of life, belief.

"Yeah, the British are pretty cool guys.Ever heard of the Second Boer War?  The British Army got their asses kicked by some farmers in South Africa, so they called in an assload of troops.  They adopted a scorched earth policy to prevent the guerrilla farmers from coming back.  They burned homes and fields, killed livestock, and poisoned drinking wells.  They then proceeded to take the wives and children of the fighters, now starving and homeless, and put them into concentration camps, where over 25,000 of them died of starvation and disease.  And that's not including what they did to the native blacks..."

"eclipsesis said:

this is exactly what i didn't want to happn. Normandy was supposed to be a joint suprise attack emphisis on "JOINT"  "they had no problem storming them", thats a bit of a bold statement, they had climb a mountain face and neutralise 7 doug-outs, not exactly easy, the slaughter of the troops acted as a diversion.As for the imagration, yes of course they would its an attack there people, way of life, belief.

I can hardly understand what you're getting at. Are you saying that during Operation Overlord the British had to climb cliffs, or the US soldiers did?"

"Crayola said:

"eclipsesis said:

this is exactly what i didn't want to happn. Normandy was supposed to be a joint suprise attack emphisis on "JOINT"  "they had no problem storming them", thats a bit of a bold statement, they had climb a mountain face and neutralise 7 doug-outs, not exactly easy, the slaughter of the troops acted as a diversion.As for the imagration, yes of course they would its an attack there people, way of life, belief.

I can hardly understand what you're getting at. Are you saying that during Operation Overlord the British had to climb cliffs, or the US soldiers did?"

Perhaps he is trying to point out that both of them had to?"

"Let's all overreact and yell at each other and stuff."

"Hamz said:

"Crayola said:

"eclipsesis said:

this is exactly what i didn't want to happn. Normandy was supposed to be a joint suprise attack emphisis on "JOINT"  "they had no problem storming them", thats a bit of a bold statement, they had climb a mountain face and neutralise 7 doug-outs, not exactly easy, the slaughter of the troops acted as a diversion.As for the imagration, yes of course they would its an attack there people, way of life, belief.

I can hardly understand what you're getting at. Are you saying that during Operation Overlord the British had to climb cliffs, or the US soldiers did?"

Perhaps he is trying to point out that both of them had to?"

Well you see, that would be incorrect. The only beach that involved climbing large cliffs was Omaha, which the British weren't involved in."

What's a doug-out?
A bunker full of Germans named Doug?

"What's a doug-out?
A bunker full of Germans named Doug?"

"Crayola said:

"Hamz said:

"Crayola said:

"eclipsesis said:

this is exactly what i didn't want to happn. Normandy was supposed to be a joint suprise attack emphisis on "JOINT"  "they had no problem storming them", thats a bit of a bold statement, they had climb a mountain face and neutralise 7 doug-outs, not exactly easy, the slaughter of the troops acted as a diversion.As for the imagration, yes of course they would its an attack there people, way of life, belief.

I can hardly understand what you're getting at. Are you saying that during Operation Overlord the British had to climb cliffs, or the US soldiers did?"

Perhaps he is trying to point out that both of them had to?"

Well you see, that would be incorrect. The only beach that involved climbing large cliffs was Omaha, which the British weren't involved in."

it wasn't omaha, that only involved the US army and US rangers which climbed the bluffs,  The commando's had to climb the bluffs on one of the other beaches and take of the doug-outs and run to a german deffensive position something like 4 miles away near omaha to  take it out and get them of the beach i think it was  47t MC"