I love the film noir style, but have never actually seen a full movie. what are some of the best noir movies out there? (and Im only talking about black and white crime dramas from the 40s and 50s, no film noir inspired films like blade runner)
Best Noir Movies?
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The Untouchables is a favourite of mine, though I haven't seen all that many. 1974's Chinatown is regarded as one of the greatest in cinema, as well so that'd be worth checking out.
EDIT: Whoops, just remembered there's already a pretty substantial thread here about Noir movies to help get in the mood for L.A Noire. So along with Chinatown, you should give that a look :P
Well, not all film noir is from that period. Noir just means black and refers to a style. But you don't want to hear about LA Confidential and Chinatown. Got it. Arguably the best noir film ever made is Touch of Evil, starring and directed by Orson Wells, with Charlton Heston playing a Mexican. Another Orson Welles favorite is The Third Man (he only starred in this one, didn't direct). There's quite a few cookie-cutter noirs starring Humphrey Bogart, the most famous of which is The Maltese Falcon. Cookie cutter doesn't mean bad, especially in that case, but some others, like the Big Sleep, spend so much time with the hard-boiled nonchalance versus the sassy femme fatale dialogue that the plot seems too incidental to care about. Strangers on a Train was a decent Hitchcock film that's a little different in that it isn't a mystery. I'm not an expert, but have seen all of those one.
@Abyssfull: Dunno if I'd call The Untouchables noir... Chinatown is a great shout, though.I'm most likely wrong in that assumption. I'm no film scholar, and I'm not an expert in... anything... but I've always kinda saw Noir movies based around a hardboiled cop/PI, simultaneously fighting against his or her inner demons as well as the outer ones. I guess it primarily focuses on a character who solos a lot it, with a most often female companion, though, so I guess Untouchables is more of a Noir inspiration than a Noir movie.Find 'Kiss Me Deadly' if you can. The 1955 version, not the abortion from a couple of years ago.
I think LA confidential will work for ya. I watched that over the weekend, and comparing to the footage available through promo material and leaked video, the color art style is pretty comparable between the two as well as the level of violence present.
Come to think of it... doesn't Tim Burton's two Batman movies kinda count as Noir movies in some senses?Kinda. I mean, if you think about it, every car in Tim Burton's Batman seems to be lifted straight from a 1940's noir movie. And the lighting of the movie, and the way steam rises up from the sewers adds that 'noir' feel to the film. You can tell that's what they were going for when you watch it.
Call Northside 777 starring Jimmy Stewart
Laura starring Dana Andrews and Gene Tierney
Nightmare Alley starring Tyrone Power and Joan Blondell
D.O.A starring Edmund O'Brien
Detour starring Tom Neal and Ann Savage
The Big Sleep Starring Humphrey Bogart and Lauren Bacall
Out of the Past starring Robert Michum and Kirk Douglas
The Asphalt Jungle starring Sterling Hayden and Marilyn Monroe
Murder My Sweet starring Dick Powell (I like Powell's Marlowe here more than Bogart's)
There are literally too many great Noir films to list, but any list would be lacking if they did not contain a few films from Blacklisted Film Noir director Jules Dassin. The Naked City, Rififi and Night and the City are some of the best films of the Noir era.
If I remember correctly, "Film Noir" was a term coined by the french (after the classic noir period of the 1940s) to describe the films coming out of an America whose outlook had been changed by the horrors of World War II. The term speaks more to the "black" subject matter than the stark black and white compositions created by German expressionists escaping Germany and finding work in the American movie system. I'm sure there's more to it, but that's what I remember off the top of my head.
@Abyssfull: Dunno if I'd call The Untouchables noir... Chinatown is a great shout, though.1955's Kiss Me Deadly has a Criterion Blu ray coming soon-ish.Find 'Kiss Me Deadly' if you can. The 1955 version, not the abortion from a couple of years ago.
Kiss Me Deadly, The Third Man, Laura (1944 I think), and I've always thought that Blade Runner and 12 Monkeys were great examples of film noir with a sci fi/futuristic spin.@GetEveryone said:@Abyssfull: Dunno if I'd call The Untouchables noir... Chinatown is a great shout, though.1955's Kiss Me Deadly has a Criterion Blu ray coming soon-ish.Find 'Kiss Me Deadly' if you can. The 1955 version, not the abortion from a couple of years ago.
That is actually fantastic news. You've made my night. Do you know if it'll have both endings on disc?
Blade Runner is definitely noir and Monkeys has that intangible quality that I'd associate with the genre, too.
@StudioErebus: ...and now I have plenty to watch in the coming days. Thank you, good sir.
As stated above, "Out of the Past" and "Laura" are two GREAT noir films that everyone interested in the genre should watch.
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