It looks Amazing, but it wont sell well.

#1 Posted by TROLOLOLOLO (40 posts) -

As cool as this game looks, it wont sell well.  
the average gamer cant seem to stay interested in it unless it is full of machine guns or explosives.  
Gamers just dont seem to be interested in story of innovation.

#2 Posted by Lukeweizer (2770 posts) -
@TROLOLOLOLO said:
" As cool as this game looks, it wont sell well.  the average gamer cant seem to stay interested in it unless it is full of machine guns or explosives.  Gamers just dont seem to be interested in story of innovation. "
Who said it isn't?
#3 Posted by face15 (1306 posts) -

Wrong. LA Noire will sell incredibly well.

#4 Posted by Azteck (7449 posts) -
@TROLOLOLOLO said:
" As cool as this game looks, it wont sell well.  the average gamer cant seem to stay interested in it unless it is full of machine guns or explosives.  Gamers just dont seem to be interested in story of innovation. "
I wouldn't say that. Lots of innovative games catch on in the "mainstream audience"
#5 Posted by Pinworm45 (4088 posts) -

Isn't it a Rockstar SD game? 
 
if so, I fail to see how it won't sell well. 
 
I'm sure people were saying the same thing about RDR because it was western.

#6 Posted by MayorFeedback (674 posts) -

Can we stop talking about unreleased games like this? You don't know hardly anything about its gameplay, the amount of marketing it's going to receive, its ultimate quality, or anything else.  
 
Stop making stupid generalizations about people who play video games and games that aren't out yet.

#7 Edited by Eidderf (507 posts) -

There's already been a few guns shown in the trailers as well as a car chase, no offense to the game but I'm sure at the end of the day it will stick to a lot of the old rockstar sandbox traditions we are familar with.

#8 Posted by TROLOLOLOLO (40 posts) -

maybe its just me then, but whenever i seem to mention the game to someone, they dont even know what it is. 
  
I hope it does sell well though, because it looks So interesting (and i love the Noire genre) , and if it doesn't sell well the chance of projects this innovative will decline.

#9 Posted by cjmabry (484 posts) -

If this is on the cover... 

'Nuff Said. 
#10 Posted by Gamer_152 (14110 posts) -

If gamers don't want story or innovation why have games evolved and gone to great efforts to include effective narratives?

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#11 Posted by fox01313 (5089 posts) -

Hard to tell with the game not out yet, as for the machine guns & explosions statement, that's just balderdash (look at games like tetris, pac man championship edition dx, peggle, super mario world, ect.). Granted I believe it's probably going to fall in that middle of the road or higher (5-8 on most 10 point review scales), it probably won't be insanely awesome selling but probably will do well enough unless something bad happens to it before or right after launch. 

#12 Posted by HandsomeDead (11863 posts) -
@Gamer_152 said:
" If gamers don't want story or innovation why have games evolved and gone to great efforts to include effective narratives? "
No, they haven't. But yeah, it's a Rockstar game ergo it will get an advertising budget ergo people will know it is out ergo people will buy it.
#13 Posted by S0ndor (2716 posts) -

You're basing your opinion on what? 2 teaser trailers? It's a Rockstar game featuring several notable actors, I'm sure we'll see a significant marketing push once we get closer to release. 
 
Also, we still don't have any idea what kind of game it's going to be.

#14 Posted by TROLOLOLOLO (40 posts) -
@fox01313: but this is supposed to be the most expensive game of all time, do you really think it will make enough to recoup its losses. 
 
ps. why dont you think it will get good reviews.
#15 Posted by KaosAngel (13764 posts) -

Oh hey, Sir. Michael Patcher said the same about another Rockstar game.

#16 Posted by gamb1t (960 posts) -

since when do 360 fanboys know anything about games?

#17 Posted by MikkaQ (10344 posts) -

I don't see how a rockstar game won't sell buttloads of copies. 

#18 Posted by StarFox (57 posts) -
@Pinworm45 said:
" Isn't it a Rockstar SD game? 
Nope, it's Rockstar Bondi. They don't have as great a track record but they do have the same logo (except blue) so I guess we'll have to wait and see. 
I'll probably pick it up. Hated GTAIV so I haven't got around to buying RDR yet, but I loved the old GTAs and this looks sufficiently different and innovative enough to warrant a purchase almost regardless of quality if it achieves what it set out to do.
#19 Edited by TROLOLOLOLO (40 posts) -
@gamb1t: what? 
 
ohh i get it, i just haven't edited my alignment yet...sorry.
#20 Posted by ZombieHunterOG (3530 posts) -

rockstar nuff said

#21 Posted by HandsomeDead (11863 posts) -

Also, nobody here understands what innovation means.

#22 Posted by Dany (7887 posts) -
@TROLOLOLOLO said:
" As cool as this game looks, it wont sell well.  the average gamer cant seem to stay interested in it unless it is full of machine guns or explosives.  Gamers just dont seem to be interested in story of innovation. "
Red Dead Redemption from the onset seemed like a weird and kinda bad Idea when I heard of it, Grand Theft Horse....uhh how can that be fun but Rockstar pulled it off so I am willing to see how this one works out
#23 Posted by Gamer_152 (14110 posts) -
@HandsomeDead said:
" @Gamer_152 said:
" If gamers don't want story or innovation why have games evolved and gone to great efforts to include effective narratives? "
No, they haven't. But yeah, it's a Rockstar game ergo it will get an advertising budget ergo people will know it is out ergo people will buy it. "
Okay, you may think that most games out there are lacking in narrative, but developers are at least trying to imbue their games with some story, and over time video games have changed drastically. This shows there's a consumer demand for these things. This whole thread is kind of speculation on a game we know nothing about though.
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#24 Posted by pegasuswinks (84 posts) -

Why are you assuming gamers are only attracted to huge explosions and machine guns?.. I thought we were long past that notion.

#25 Posted by ShiftyMagician (2133 posts) -
@cjmabry said:
" If this is on the cover... 

'Nuff Said. 
"
You'll be surprised how many people both internationally and also in America would not know who that is, or even what that symbol represents.  That being said, I have high hopes for this game regardless, as I believe the mainstream would easily eat up a murder mystery game with investigations and great acting as the focus.  
 
The only question though is what the full game looks like.  If there is actual game-play beyond the character interactions and investigations, I haven't seen it yet unfortunately.
#26 Posted by HandsomeDead (11863 posts) -
@Gamer_152 said:
" @HandsomeDead said:
" @Gamer_152 said:
" If gamers don't want story or innovation why have games evolved and gone to great efforts to include effective narratives? "
No, they haven't. But yeah, it's a Rockstar game ergo it will get an advertising budget ergo people will know it is out ergo people will buy it. "
Okay, you may think that most games out there are lacking in narrative, but developers are at least trying to imbue their games with some story, and over time video games have changed drastically. This shows there's a consumer demand for these things. This whole thread is kind of speculation on a game we know nothing about though. "
Aside from Rockstar, Remedy, Bioware and the old Infinity Ward, collectively adding up to maybe 10 games I can think of, what major developers are actually trying to put solid narratives into their games? You look at something like Just Cause 2 and not only is it embarrassing but it's clearly just there as a paper thin justification for the gameplay. A majority of gamers don't care as long as they get to blow things up or jump on an enemy's head.
#27 Posted by KaosAngel (13764 posts) -

Well, if this doesn't sell well...you can say goodbye to Agent.

#28 Posted by fox01313 (5089 posts) -
@TROLOLOLOLO: 

It takes time for a majority of the games to make up for the money sunk into it, most are happy to just break even. I think it's going to get average or higher reviews from the time sunk into making it & the studio but will it be in that massive 9-10 range of blockbusters. Then again I was wrong about Red Dead Redemption (thought it was going to be average & was blown away by it like many others) & if I knew everything in the future right now, I'd definitely have a job by now after looking for months or just getting rich in the tables at Vegas or Shreveport.      
 
Also I'd be inventing a time machine to send some notes back to myself years ago while early in college to switch to a different school & buy up stock in starbucks/nintendo/apple.

#29 Posted by kishan6 (1914 posts) -
@face15 said:
" Wrong. LA Noire will sell incredibly well. "
Ya its made by rockstar.... 
thats like saying something by Bungie/Infinity ward/Bioware/Blizzard wont sell well
#30 Posted by KaosAngel (13764 posts) -
@kishan6 said:
" Ya its made by rockstar.... thats like saying something by Bungie/Infinity ward/Bioware/Blizzard wont sell well "
Even Bioware has sold less than stealer sellers.  Jade Empire.   Every company has their bad game, and their shame.  This might be it for Rockstar.
#31 Posted by dragonzord (823 posts) -
@KaosAngel said:
" @kishan6 said:
" Ya its made by rockstar.... thats like saying something by Bungie/Infinity ward/Bioware/Blizzard wont sell well "
Even Bioware has sold less than stealer sellers.  Jade Empire.   Every company has their bad game, and their shame.  This might be it for Rockstar. "
Jade Empire was before Bioware became a huge name in sales. Anything pre-Mass Effect they were big, but never a huge AAA company in terms of name value.
#32 Posted by kingzetta (4307 posts) -

I looks like just another Rockstar game.
They stopped meaning anything to me personally after the ps2.
I really don't like Rockstars style of games anymore.

#33 Posted by salad10203 (654 posts) -

Have they released any gameplay?  Based solely on what I've seen it doesn't look that good, but then again, they have released close to nothing.

#34 Posted by Hector (3380 posts) -
Thats what they said about Red Dead and look hoe well it did!
#35 Posted by Cybexx (1226 posts) -

Considering LA Noire was announced with its first teaser trailer four years ago it isn't surprising that most people have forgot about it or missed it during the announcement. Thanks to all the delays I've been pretty skeptical of it myself but that last teaser trailer has brought me around. It might turn out to be horrible but Rockstar saw the success they had with delaying Red Dead Redemption by a year.  RDR mostly sold on highly positive reviews and good word of mouth, I'll bet that the mass majority of people who bought it have no idea that Red Dead Revolver existed. I think the facial animation tech behind this game shows that Rockstar is committed to making this their next big game and I'm pretty sure that if it reviews well it is going to end up doing really well for them.

#36 Posted by StaticFalconar (4850 posts) -

So a user goes by the name of Trolololololo and says something won't sell.  
 
 
 
 
 
My response: LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO

#37 Posted by Monte (229 posts) -

Just because it looks good doesn't mean it will be.

#38 Posted by Mrsignerman44 (1100 posts) -

If this game did not have Rockstar's name attached to it then I would see your point. But the Rockstar symbol will boost up sales tenfold.

#39 Edited by ProfessorEss (7523 posts) -

It's Rockstar so it will sell a couple.
It's Rockstar so it'll probably be good and sell more.
Who says it's not gonna be filled with murder and mayhem?
RockStar is notorious for holding back and going with more of a release-time-blitz style advertising which typically works for them.

#40 Posted by ZoomyRamen (237 posts) -

You're saying its well known currently only among gaming websites and dedicated gaming forums? It's not out for ages, as soon as the advertising starts and people see the Rockstar logo it will gather hype and sell, see RDR

#41 Edited by DeShawn2ks (1058 posts) -

People said Red Dead Redemption wouldn't sell well neither and look how that turned out. The Call of Duty only crowd might not pick it up but there are millions of other gamers who will myself being one of them.

#42 Posted by SSully (4326 posts) -

I did not even bother reading anyone elses responses, but i am sure plenty have said it before me. People said the EXACT same thing about RDR, and you can see how well that turned out for rock star. A good game, with the help of some decent marketing, will sell. 

#43 Posted by TheGremp (2064 posts) -
@gamb1t said:
" since when do 360 fanboys know anything about games? "
Go back to Gamespot, please.  We don't welcome your kind here. 
 
Anyways, on subject...  OP, I get the feeling that your friends aren't necessarily gamers.  Sure, the average person who plays games wouldn't appreciate or even recognize the weight behind the Rockstar name.  Also, they probably wouldn't even pay attention to upcoming debuts.  The only games that my friends recognize are sequels to mainstream games that they've already heard of. 
 
However, folks like us who actually pay attention to the gaming industry will definitely buy it, and the everyday gamer will follow suit.  It's just how new IP's work.
#44 Posted by Wes899 (2128 posts) -

XBOX 360 release
Did this sell well?
#45 Posted by Quacktastic (1066 posts) -

Rockstar manages their own hype really well.  If they think the game is good, they will push it and it will do well.  You just won't realize it until it's a month away.  That's how RS likes it.

#46 Posted by AndrewGaspar (2419 posts) -

Does anybody else see this joker's username? 
 
Stop feeding him.

#47 Posted by KaosAngel (13764 posts) -
@Wes899: Damn I forgot about that game.  I guess that's Rockstar's flop game, and LA Noir is safe.
#48 Posted by gamb1t (960 posts) -
@TheGremp said:
" @gamb1t said:
" since when do 360 fanboys know anything about games? "
Go back to Gamespot, please.  We don't welcome your kind here.  Anyways, on subject...  OP, I get the feeling that your friends aren't necessarily gamers.  Sure, the average person who plays games wouldn't appreciate or even recognize the weight behind the Rockstar name.  Also, they probably wouldn't even pay attention to upcoming debuts.  The only games that my friends recognize are sequels to mainstream games that they've already heard of.  However, folks like us who actually pay attention to the gaming industry will definitely buy it, and the everyday gamer will follow suit.  It's just how new IP's work. "
this isnt avatar.... .i wanna know what "your kind" is hahahahahaha
#49 Edited by Korolev (1727 posts) -

Well, it doesn't sell to me, since I couldn't care less about Gangsters and Noire-type stuff. I don't know, I just don't like that sort of fiction. I like that time period, just not the criminals who inhabited that time period. Then again, I hate criminals regardless or when of where they lived. It's one of the reasons I didn't like GTA.

#50 Posted by OneAndOnlyBigE (447 posts) -
@HandsomeDead said:
" @Gamer_152 said:
" @HandsomeDead said:
" @Gamer_152 said:
" If gamers don't want story or innovation why have games evolved and gone to great efforts to include effective narratives? "
No, they haven't. But yeah, it's a Rockstar game ergo it will get an advertising budget ergo people will know it is out ergo people will buy it. "
Okay, you may think that most games out there are lacking in narrative, but developers are at least trying to imbue their games with some story, and over time video games have changed drastically. This shows there's a consumer demand for these things. This whole thread is kind of speculation on a game we know nothing about though. "
Aside from Rockstar, Remedy, Bioware and the old Infinity Ward, collectively adding up to maybe 10 games I can think of, what major developers are actually trying to put solid narratives into their games? You look at something like Just Cause 2 and not only is it embarrassing but it's clearly just there as a paper thin justification for the gameplay. A majority of gamers don't care as long as they get to blow things up or jump on an enemy's head. "
"Infinity Ward" and "solid narrative" in the same sentence, that's funny.  How about Ubisoft? Or Irrational?

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