"Your primary weapon is your intuition".. well, sh*t!

Posted by AhmadMetallic (19303 posts) -

This is a shoutout to all my gaming homies out there who lack the intuition and 'smarts' needed to solve mysteries.


I've been a complete sucker for Rockstar Games since i first laid eyes on GTA 2 when i was 10. I never miss a R* title, I even went out and bought a PS3 just to be able to play the PC-less Red Dead Redemption.
But this time around.. the game isn't about skill or speed or dedication or past R* games experiences, it's about the player counting on his intuition and mystery-solving gut feelings.. and i've always lacked that in my life.


"I've no idea what to do next" 


Whenever i think someone is lying or covering something up, they end up being honest. Whenever i think a dude sounds legit, something about him turns out to be fishy.
I've lost faith in my personal judgement and i'm no good at solving mysteries. i just don't have the luck for it.. 
I look too hard when it's easy to see, and i take it for granted when serious efforts should be put into it.


So.. is anyone else worried that you're gonna spend most of your L.A. Noire gametime putting innocent people behind bars and letting criminals go free?  That's no way to play or enjoy a detective game.. 
#1 Edited by AhmadMetallic (19303 posts) -

This is a shoutout to all my gaming homies out there who lack the intuition and 'smarts' needed to solve mysteries.


I've been a complete sucker for Rockstar Games since i first laid eyes on GTA 2 when i was 10. I never miss a R* title, I even went out and bought a PS3 just to be able to play the PC-less Red Dead Redemption.
But this time around.. the game isn't about skill or speed or dedication or past R* games experiences, it's about the player counting on his intuition and mystery-solving gut feelings.. and i've always lacked that in my life.


"I've no idea what to do next" 


Whenever i think someone is lying or covering something up, they end up being honest. Whenever i think a dude sounds legit, something about him turns out to be fishy.
I've lost faith in my personal judgement and i'm no good at solving mysteries. i just don't have the luck for it.. 
I look too hard when it's easy to see, and i take it for granted when serious efforts should be put into it.


So.. is anyone else worried that you're gonna spend most of your L.A. Noire gametime putting innocent people behind bars and letting criminals go free?  That's no way to play or enjoy a detective game.. 
#2 Posted by phish09 (1112 posts) -

Intuition, eh?  I wonder if that comes bundled in with the Gamestop pre-order.  :)

#3 Posted by N7 (3811 posts) -

I'm more or less worried that when you do arrest the innocent people, or let the guilty people go, the game'll do something like "Whoops. You made a mistake so here's the obvious answer", and whenever you try it a second time, you'll get a "Game over" screen.

I sure hope not.

That and the difficulty of the mysteries has me worried.

#4 Posted by animateria (3302 posts) -

Maybe you should always pick the opposite of your instincts. 

#5 Posted by Vinny_Says (5907 posts) -

Well if you continually mess up I don't see you advancing in rank. But if you keep messing up and they let you continue until the end....that would make for a quite unique ending :)

#6 Edited by AhmadMetallic (19303 posts) -
@blacklabeldomm said:

" But if you keep messing up and they let you continue until the end....that would make for a quite unique ending :) "

The reason i feared RPG games for the longest time, right there.
'what if make all the enemies i should avoid making, befriend all the NPCs that will benefit me the least, sell the shit i should hang on to and keep the shit that won't ever help me out?  100 hours later my entire game might be one big mistake"
#7 Posted by Pinworm45 (4069 posts) -
@animateria said:
" Maybe you should always pick the opposite of your instincts.  "
But what if it's his instincts telling him to pick the opposite of his instincts?

Anyway it's a game, it's a game with mass appeal, it won't be complex.
#8 Posted by BraveToaster (12636 posts) -

I welcome this change. It's good to see that Rockstar is bringing something fresh to the table.

#9 Posted by animateria (3302 posts) -
@Ahmad_Metallic said:
" @blacklabeldomm said:

" But if you keep messing up and they let you continue until the end....that would make for a quite unique ending :) "

The reason i feared RPG games for the longest time, right there.
'what if make all the enemies i should avoid making, befriend all the NPCs that will benefit me the least, sell the shit i should hang on to and keep the shit that won't ever help me out?  100 hours later my entire game might be one big mistake" "
I guess you should hope they give you the option of having a bottle of whiskey and a bullet to the brain.

So totally 'Noir'.
#10 Posted by thehexeditor (1436 posts) -

Not to worry. If you screw up a case you can replay it to get the 5 star rating.

#11 Posted by Video_Game_King (36567 posts) -

Great, you've depressed me with your blog.

#12 Edited by NTM (8224 posts) -

No, I think I'll make a pretty good detective. They made that facial technology for this game just for those instances. It's all about reading the persons emotions and from that, figure out if they're lying or not. If you've watched enough shows like Law & Order, I think you'll catch on to the cliche's. Ha ha.
#13 Posted by AhmadMetallic (19303 posts) -
@Pinworm45 said:
" Anyway it's a game, it's a game with mass appeal, it won't be complex. "
i hate to be the kind of person who says this but, i sure hope so :$


@animateria said:
" @Ahmad_Metallic said:
" @blacklabeldomm said:

" But if you keep messing up and they let you continue until the end....that would make for a quite unique ending :) "

The reason i feared RPG games for the longest time, right there.
'what if make all the enemies i should avoid making, befriend all the NPCs that will benefit me the least, sell the shit i should hang on to and keep the shit that won't ever help me out?  100 hours later my entire game might be one big mistake" "
I guess you should hope they give you the option of having a bottle of whiskey and a bullet to the brain.

So totally 'Noir'.
"
making me laugh out loud earns you an internet cookie of your choice
#14 Posted by Yummylee (23180 posts) -

Phelps and cop partner clearly weren't ready for that snap-shot.

#15 Posted by Ocean_H (283 posts) -

Isn't there like 2 types of intuition? One based on how smart you are. i.e. your deduction ability like Sherlock Holmes from logical analysis. And the other based on your subjectivity from being bias on anything in your surroundings. Heck, ever played Hotel Dusk on the DS?

#16 Edited by Ramone (3065 posts) -

As long as there is an homage to that interrogation scene from L.A Confidential I will be happy. I could not care less if I lock up innocent men and release mass murdering peadophiles on the world because I AM THE LAW and as far as I know you can't arrest a policeman, that's how it works isn't it?

#17 Posted by Ocean_H (283 posts) -
@Jonny7892 said:
"

As long as there is an homage to that scene in L.A Confidential I will be happy. I could not care less if I lock up innocent men and release mass murdering peadophiles on the world because I AM THE LAW and as far as I know you can't arrest a policeman, that's how it works isn't it?

"
Man, I really loved that interrogation scene.
#18 Posted by mshaw006 (578 posts) -
@Ahmad_Metallic: You have to keep trying different tactics. Honestly, do something like this: @animateria said:  Maybe you should always pick the opposite of your instincts.,  and if that doesn't work, keep trying systemic changes like that. You'll get it right eventually. 
#19 Posted by Hailinel (25787 posts) -
@Axxol said:
" I welcome this change. It's good to see that Rockstar is bringing something fresh to the table. "
Fresh for Rockstar games, at any rate.  It's nice to see them branching out into genres that aren't predicated on sociopathic levels of violence (or ping pong).
#20 Posted by Daveyo520 (7316 posts) -

Well you do have your notebook and Intuition points to help you out, so don't worry too much.

#21 Posted by Ocean_H (283 posts) -
@Ahmad_Metallic said:
That's no way to play or enjoy a detective game..
Btw, what? That doesn't makes sense. You want a detective game to solve everything for you?
#22 Posted by AhmadMetallic (19303 posts) -
@Ocean_H said:
" @Ahmad_Metallic said:
That's no way to play or enjoy a detective game..
Btw, what? That doesn't makes sense. You want a detective game to solve everything for you? "
no i meant "being a shitty detective is no way to enjoy a detective game. and i wanna play it!"
#23 Posted by Ocean_H (283 posts) -
@Ahmad_Metallic said:
" @Ocean_H said:
" @Ahmad_Metallic said:
That's no way to play or enjoy a detective game..
Btw, what? That doesn't makes sense. You want a detective game to solve everything for you? "
no i meant "being a shitty detective is no way to enjoy a detective game. and i wanna play it!" "
That would be like "I suck at school soo bad or I'm not smart enough but I want to graduate from college".

*Btw, not personal, just an allegory.
#24 Posted by SeriouslyNow (8504 posts) -

Fuck that shit, I'm goin' older school.

MY primary weapon is my INTUIT.

#25 Posted by PhatSeeJay (3331 posts) -

Though unlike your life, in this game you will have evidence to back your claims up. You'll only suffer when you need to squeeze someone for information without anything to use against them, and that will probably only make the investigation take a lot longer. :)

#26 Posted by Chirotera (57 posts) -
@Ahmad_Metallic: I'm not too worried. So long as I can solve cases like my hero;

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qN8CvXi9Wj8
#27 Posted by Claude (16614 posts) -

For whatever reason, my hype for this game has gone way up. Maybe it's because I like crime dramas. Who knows.

#28 Posted by Daveyo520 (7316 posts) -
@Claude: It is because you are becoming a man.
#29 Posted by Claude (16614 posts) -
@Daveyo520 said:
" @Claude: It is because you are becoming a man. "
I did break up with my Wii. I guess I'm looking for a long term relationship with a game in HD.
#30 Posted by yinstarrunner (1252 posts) -

It's a modern game, there's no way it'll let you end up fucking yourself over so completely.

I wouldn't even be too worried about making mistakes.  Every video I've seen has made the characters look COMPLETELY OBVIOUS when they're lying, to show off the facial technology.  It would be a poor decision for them to make that a HUGE part of the game anyway... they should stick to solving crimes through deduction.

#31 Posted by Evilsbane (4978 posts) -
@Claude said:
" @Daveyo520 said:
" @Claude: It is because you are becoming a man. "
I did break up with my Wii. I guess I'm looking for a long term relationship with a game in HD. "
My god Claude, YOU LOVE YOUR DAMN Wii but, glad to see you want to tangle with the forbidden fruit of HD :P
#32 Posted by Wuddel (2295 posts) -

Maybe I do not know enough of about this game yet - I prefer to be less spoiled going in - but I bet there is a way to muscle around the cases, by collecting even more evidence.


I do welcome the change. The Rockstar games never have been about the skill, but always about the story. Maybe thats why I love GTA and can not relate to RDR.
#33 Posted by Claude (16614 posts) -
@Evilsbane said:

" @Claude said:

" @Daveyo520 said:

" @Claude: It is because you are becoming a man. "
I did break up with my Wii. I guess I'm looking for a long term relationship with a game in HD. "
My god Claude, YOU LOVE YOUR DAMN Wii but, glad to see you want to tangle with the forbidden fruit of HD :P "
#34 Posted by DystopiaX (5375 posts) -
@Ahmad_Metallic said:
" This is a shoutout to all my gaming homies out there who lack the intuition and 'smarts' needed to solve mysteries.


I've been a complete sucker for Rockstar Games since i first laid eyes on GTA 2 when i was 10. I never miss a R* title, I even went out and bought a PS3 just to be able to play the PC-less Red Dead Redemption.
But this time around.. the game isn't about skill or speed or dedication or past R* games experiences, it's about the player counting on his intuition and mystery-solving gut feelings.. and i've always lacked that in my life.


"I've no idea what to do next" 


Whenever i think someone is lying or covering something up, they end up being honest. Whenever i think a dude sounds legit, something about him turns out to be fishy.
I've lost faith in my personal judgement and i'm no good at solving mysteries. i just don't have the luck for it.. 
I look too hard when it's easy to see, and i take it for granted when serious efforts should be put into it.


So.. is anyone else worried that you're gonna spend most of your L.A. Noire gametime putting innocent people behind bars and letting criminals go free?  That's no way to play or enjoy a detective game.. 
"
Same, but hoping that the other clues that you can pick up help you enough that occasionally misreading a character won't have consequences that serious. Also since it's acting and not the real thing the tells may be more pronounced than normal.
#35 Edited by AhmadMetallic (19303 posts) -
@Abyssfull said:

" Phelps and cop partner clearly weren't ready for that snap-shot. "

edit: totally photo-suckerpunched them right there
#36 Posted by Kyreo (4683 posts) -

To be honest I don't think it will be too hard.  I like puzzles and I think about things in new ways when I need to so I don't think it will be too bad.  In fact, I am looking forward to solving mysteries.

#37 Posted by ProfessorEss (7647 posts) -

Yeah I'm a little worried about it too. I'm also kinda worried that it's going to result in a lot of the game involving me watching the same cutscenes over and over again.

I'm staying optimistic, but I do have my worries.

#38 Posted by mordukai (7715 posts) -
@Ahmad_Metallic:  How can you rely on your intuition when ware such horrible suits? 
#39 Posted by Loki9876 (100 posts) -

start watching Lie to me

#40 Edited by JJWeatherman (14789 posts) -

This thread is hilarious.  :)

Just enjoy the game, duder.
#41 Posted by ShaggE (7018 posts) -

For the first time, I'm actually hoping that this game DOES let you fuck yourself over, and adjust the story/cases/interactions as needed. (but never adjusted to make things easier)


For some reason, I feel like this game should be a stiff challenge. 
#42 Posted by AhmadMetallic (19303 posts) -
@Chirotera said:
" @Ahmad_Metallic: I'm not too worried. So long as I can solve cases like my hero; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qN8CvXi9Wj8 "
that was fascinating.


@ProfessorEss said:
" Yeah I'm a little worried about it too. I'm also kinda worried that it's going to result in a lot of the game involving me watching the same cutscenes over and over again.I'm staying optimistic, but I do have my worries. "
yeah watching the same shit everytime you mess up.. and i mess up alot .. woah.
#43 Posted by DonPixel (2727 posts) -

So it´s a game you know.. it´s not like real people are going behind bars. You can always load last save to clean your conscience 

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