So people are boycotting L4D2

#1 Posted by Droop (1691 posts) - 3 years, 11 months ago

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/L4D2boycott

There's already 9500 members, and its been up for like 5 days. But what does Valve care about 10k if the game sells in millions? ;P

Dicuess?

#2 Posted by Fallen189 (4754 posts) - 3 years, 11 months ago

People not satisfied with something online, who would have known.

Don't care, an online petition won't stop a business making money.

#3 Posted by Gorillawhat (1260 posts) - 3 years, 11 months ago

Part of me thinks boycotting the game is dumb, it's basically boycotting the fact that Valve has done something that other companies (activision) have been doing for years, milking games for money. But the other part of me is totally happy that 10k agree with me and that this many people boycotting the game is a good way to show Valve that their oh so beloved community isn't going to take this milking shit.

#4 Edited by Mikemcn (6791 posts) - 3 years, 11 months ago

Wow ,really, well they need to stop complaining because this is all the L4D they are gonna get for a longgggg time.

Who cares, it will be fun and it adds some new stuff? Whats wrong with that?

Also, Valve is smarter then the average consumer, they know what they are doing....

#5 Posted by Alex_V (613 posts) - 3 years, 11 months ago

Terrible idea, and totally irrational. Gonna set up a "boycott the boycott" group.

#6 Posted by Droop (1691 posts) - 3 years, 11 months ago

@Fallen189: I agree.. There's no way that Valve will stop production.

But if the group ends up with like 200k or something, Valve might not L4D3 right away :P

#7 Posted by Out_On_Bail (1545 posts) - 3 years, 11 months ago

I agree it might seem a bit soon to release the next version of L4D, but that doesn't mean I will refuse to buy it. Even if it's so soon, you all know (including the 10k people in that steam group) that the next game is going to be great. Why hurt yourself and not play it?

#8 Posted by mracoon (4583 posts) - 3 years, 11 months ago

The game will be great and I will buy it. At first I was against it but then I thought new, improved L4D would be awesome. I think people are just upset they're not getting things for free, even though few other developers would give them free content at all.

Moderator

#9 Posted by Fallen189 (4754 posts) - 3 years, 11 months ago

@Droop said:

" @Fallen189: I agree.. There's no way that Valve will stop production.But if the group ends up with like 200k or something, Valve might not L4D3 right away :P "

Maybe at the next sort of press conference they do, they'll annouce left 5 dead. ONLINE.

#10 Posted by TheKidNixon (1564 posts) - 3 years, 11 months ago

As I've said elsewhere, the problem isn't L4D2. The problem is they shipped the first L4D too soon. All the interviews they've had sense the game out, to defend the quick turn around, is to say "Well we had a lot of ideas right away that we wanted to implement, this is the full realization of the game, etc." Which is find, that is in theory the point of direct sequels, to refine and better the original product. But if Left 4 Dead wasn't as honed and perfected a product as other Valve releases, then why was it released? Did Valve actually get rushed to market on this one, for fear of having a financial year where they didn't release a game? One has to wonder...

#11 Posted by Gorillawhat (1260 posts) - 3 years, 11 months ago

@TheKidNixon said:

" As I've said elsewhere, the problem isn't L4D2. The problem is they shipped the first L4D too soon. All the interviews they've had sense the game out, to defend the quick turn around, is to say "Well we had a lot of ideas right away that we wanted to implement, this is the full realization of the game, etc." Which is find, that is in theory the point of direct sequels, to refine and better the original product. But if Left 4 Dead wasn't as honed and perfected a product as other Valve releases, then why was it released? Did Valve actually get rushed to market on this one, for fear of having a financial year where they didn't release a game? One has to wonder... "

That would make sense, seeing as L4D was released unfinished, with 2 of only 4 campaigns not even working in Versus mode until very recently, and a bare minimum of modes.

#12 Posted by Alex_V (613 posts) - 3 years, 11 months ago

Here's my replies to their 'beefs'!!!

* Significant content for L4D1 was promised, and never delivered

A new multiplayer mode was launched recently. Versus ina ll campaigns. Valve haven't announced that they're stopping the support for L4D. This is a cricism based on thin air and paranoia.

* Valve put little faith in L4D1 since they almost certainly started working on L4D2 right after release

Every developer does that with a successful product. Valve would be crazy to do any different.

* The fact that L4D2 is nearly identical to L4D1 will decimate the community for both games

Assumption. The sequel is 5 months away - who says it will be identical. Any sequel hurts the community for the game that came before - what's the problem? It's like an argument for the world standing still. On that basis Valve should never release sequels for Half-Life or Portal. Ludicrous idea.

* The announced date is not nearly enough time to polish content or make significant gameplay changes

Says who? Total assumption. Apparently zombies are totally different, limbs can be blown off, new infected, different characters, setting, maps, and melee weapons, guns, and incendiary ammo. Also a new multiplayer mode. And a new AI director that will alter the actual layour of the level, and the weather. And apparently in-level changes like constant respawn areas where the zombies must be siwtched off. No significant gameplay changes? Utter nonsense!!!

* The new character designs seem bland and unappealing so far

This is not a reason to not want a sequel. If they end up bland an unappealing and nobody buys the game, then what does it matter?

* L4D2 is too bright to fit in with L4D1's visual aesthetic

That'd be why it's called a sequel. The desire for a sequel to mirror the initial game is just weird - I like sequels to do something different. Plus this is contradictory with the point about lack of time meaning less changes - you can't have it both ways.

* The fiddle-based horde music is extremely disliked, though the differently orchestrated music is otherwise welcome

Irrelevant. If anything this is an argument for a sequel, not against one.

* L4D2's release will result in a drop in quality and frequency for L4D1 content, even compared to before

Says who? Where's the evidence of this? This is the best point made so far though - if you bought the first game expecting there to be a good few years of support, then maybe the sequel will affect that. But speaking personally, I don't play my games for years on end - what proportion of gamers play the same game for more than 12 months?

* The community has lost faith in Valve's former reputation for commitment to their games post-release

Based on what? Which game has Valve left unsupported? L4D has had a major update recently. TF2 still gets crazy updates! I just don't see the evidence for this complaint!

#13 Edited by Jimbo (8911 posts) - 3 years, 11 months ago

I bet they'll do something for L4D1 owners, or maybe it'll be in a bundle or something and then everybody on that list will buy it anyway.

I think Valve are one of the few companies that actually appreciate the goodwill of their community - how long would that boycott thing stay up on any other developer's site?

#14 Posted by Davvyk (596 posts) - 3 years, 11 months ago

Personally i could not care less that L4D2 is coming out so close to L4D. People forget the awesome value that Valve gave us with orange box very quickly.

#15 Posted by McPaper (253 posts) - 3 years, 11 months ago

This is a quote from another board and I think it makes a good point

" You wait for that online community to die and then you inject some kind of stimulus to start it back up again. Why it could be some dlc, maybe an expansion pack, or if the community is completely dead then you can recreate it and bring it back together with a sequel. But what you don't do, is get a game with an active online community and try to replace it! Valve wants to keep updating L4D after they release L4D 2 at full price? They're going to divide the community by trying to keep them in two places at once, and the embitterment created in the process will serve to disband it. Not the smartest way to make a dime, I'll tell you that much. "

#16 Posted by Droop (1691 posts) - 3 years, 11 months ago

@Fallen189: Dude, yes! A L4D mmo would be epic XD

#17 Posted by Gizmo (5383 posts) - 3 years, 11 months ago

The "new" multiplayer mode that was added had already been made by the community, and Lighthouse sucks ass.

#18 Posted by Gorillawhat (1260 posts) - 3 years, 11 months ago

@Alex_V said:

" Here's my replies to their 'beefs'!!!

* Significant content for L4D1 was promised, and never delivered

A new multiplayer mode was launched recently. Versus ina ll campaigns. Valve haven't announced that they're stopping the support for L4D. This is a cricism based on thin air and paranoia.
These are all minimal features and modes that should have been released with the game, although weren't. Valve hasn't announced that they are stopping support, but they've barely supported it anyway, and why would the continue?
* Valve put little faith in L4D1 since they almost certainly started working on L4D2 right after release

Every developer does that with a successful product. Valve would be crazy to do any different.
They certainly didn't start working on TF2 right after release, instead they started working on really cool, free, new maps and character upgrades that they would release down the line. It's called supporting a game.
* The fact that L4D2 is nearly identical to L4D1 will decimate the community for both games

Assumption. The sequel is 5 months away - who says it will be identical. Any sequel hurts the community for the game that came before - what's the problem? It's like an argument for the world standing still. On that basis Valve should never release sequels for Half-Life or Portal. Ludicrous idea.
The difference is Valve leaves a good length of time between the Half-life games and Portal, and anyway, they're single player games, not multiplayer, they don't have communities that would be splintered. If Bungie released Halo 4 a year after Halo 3, that is a real example, it would splinter the community.
* The announced date is not nearly enough time to polish content or make significant gameplay changes

Says who? Total assumption. Apparently zombies are totally different, limbs can be blown off, new infected, different characters, setting, maps, and melee weapons, guns, and incendiary ammo. Also a new multiplayer mode. And a new AI director that will alter the actual layour of the level, and the weather. And apparently in-level changes like constant respawn areas where the zombies must be siwtched off. No significant gameplay changes? Utter nonsense!!!
I don't really agree with this, none of the changes are enough to even barely justify charging for a whole new entire game. If you would have told me all these changes before I knew about L4D2, I would have told you it was just a nice chunky expansion pack.
* The new character designs seem bland and unappealing so far

This is not a reason to not want a sequel. If they end up bland an unappealing and nobody buys the game, then what does it matter?
It matters because the characters in the original L4D were actually really cool, and people became attached to their vague stories and stuff. But then people have seen next to nothing of the new characters, so we can't say much yet.
* L4D2 is too bright to fit in with L4D1's visual aesthetic

That'd be why it's called a sequel. The desire for a sequel to mirror the initial game is just weird - I like sequels to do something different. Plus this is contradictory with the point about lack of time meaning less changes - you can't have it both ways.
Yeah, I can't say I care if the one preview we've seen of the game is in the daytime, just because it's day doesn't mean the zombies leave
* The fiddle-based horde music is extremely disliked, though the differently orchestrated music is otherwise welcome

Irrelevant. If anything this is an argument for a sequel, not against one.
music who cares
* L4D2's release will result in a drop in quality and frequency for L4D1 content, even compared to before

Says who? Where's the evidence of this? This is the best point made so far though - if you bought the first game expecting there to be a good few years of support, then maybe the sequel will affect that. But speaking personally, I don't play my games for years on end - what proportion of gamers play the same game for more than 12 months?
Yeah, his point makes no sense here
* The community has lost faith in Valve's former reputation for commitment to their games post-releaseBased on what? Which game has Valve left unsupported? L4D has had a major update recently. TF2 still gets crazy updates! I just don't see the evidence for this complaint! " L4D gets jack shit in terms of content and then a year later they come out with a new one. That hurts reputation

Here are my replies to your beef with their beef.

#19 Posted by Fallen189 (4754 posts) - 3 years, 11 months ago

@Droop

Choose between Moronic, zombiefied horde ( Or a WoW player) , or Louis.

LOUIS!

#20 Posted by mracoon (4583 posts) - 3 years, 11 months ago

@Gorillawhat said:

"
@Alex_V said:
" Here's my replies to their 'beefs'!!!

* Significant content for L4D1 was promised, and never delivered

A new multiplayer mode was launched recently. Versus ina ll campaigns. Valve haven't announced that they're stopping the support for L4D. This is a cricism based on thin air and paranoia.
These are all minimal features and modes that should have been released with the game, although weren't. Valve hasn't announced that they are stopping support, but they've barely supported it anyway, and why would the continue?
* Valve put little faith in L4D1 since they almost certainly started working on L4D2 right after release

Every developer does that with a successful product. Valve would be crazy to do any different.
They certainly didn't start working on TF2 right after release, instead they started working on really cool, free, new maps and character upgrades that they would release down the line. It's called supporting a game.
* The fact that L4D2 is nearly identical to L4D1 will decimate the community for both games

Assumption. The sequel is 5 months away - who says it will be identical. Any sequel hurts the community for the game that came before - what's the problem? It's like an argument for the world standing still. On that basis Valve should never release sequels for Half-Life or Portal. Ludicrous idea.
The difference is Valve leaves a good length of time between the Half-life games and Portal, and anyway, they're single player games, not multiplayer, they don't have communities that would be splintered. If Bungie released Halo 4 a year after Halo 3, that is a real example, it would splinter the community.
* The announced date is not nearly enough time to polish content or make significant gameplay changes

Says who? Total assumption. Apparently zombies are totally different, limbs can be blown off, new infected, different characters, setting, maps, and melee weapons, guns, and incendiary ammo. Also a new multiplayer mode. And a new AI director that will alter the actual layour of the level, and the weather. And apparently in-level changes like constant respawn areas where the zombies must be siwtched off. No significant gameplay changes? Utter nonsense!!!
I don't really agree with this, none of the changes are enough to even barely justify charging for a whole new entire game. If you would have told me all these changes before I knew about L4D2, I would have told you it was just a nice chunky expansion pack.
* The new character designs seem bland and unappealing so far

This is not a reason to not want a sequel. If they end up bland an unappealing and nobody buys the game, then what does it matter?
It matters because the characters in the original L4D were actually really cool, and people became attached to their vague stories and stuff. But then people have seen next to nothing of the new characters, so we can't say much yet.
* L4D2 is too bright to fit in with L4D1's visual aesthetic

That'd be why it's called a sequel. The desire for a sequel to mirror the initial game is just weird - I like sequels to do something different. Plus this is contradictory with the point about lack of time meaning less changes - you can't have it both ways.
Yeah, I can't say I care if the one preview we've seen of the game is in the daytime, just because it's day doesn't mean the zombies leave
* The fiddle-based horde music is extremely disliked, though the differently orchestrated music is otherwise welcome

Irrelevant. If anything this is an argument for a sequel, not against one.
music who cares
* L4D2's release will result in a drop in quality and frequency for L4D1 content, even compared to before

Says who? Where's the evidence of this? This is the best point made so far though - if you bought the first game expecting there to be a good few years of support, then maybe the sequel will affect that. But speaking personally, I don't play my games for years on end - what proportion of gamers play the same game for more than 12 months?
Yeah, his point makes no sense here
* The community has lost faith in Valve's former reputation for commitment to their games post-releaseBased on what? Which game has Valve left unsupported? L4D has had a major update recently. TF2 still gets crazy updates! I just don't see the evidence for this complaint! " L4D gets jack shit in terms of content and then a year later they come out with a new one. That hurts reputation
Here are my replies to your beef with their beef. "

Again your expecting free content like it's a right. It's not and Valve have done far more then many other companies in terms of supporting games. They've said the amount of content they're adding in L4D2 exceeds the original and wouldn't work as update, so that's why they're a whole new game.

Moderator

#21 Posted by Linkyshinks (9884 posts) - 3 years, 11 months ago

I think it's dumb that they are... I actually want something new, rather than something integrated into the existing game.

#22 Posted by Gizmo (5383 posts) - 3 years, 11 months ago

L4D2, needs more Louis.

#23 Posted by Kiemoe (1053 posts) - 3 years, 11 months ago

@Alex_V said:

" Terrible idea, and totally irrational. Gonna set up a "boycott the boycott" group. "

I would join that group.

#24 Posted by VitaminWaterYum (378 posts) - 3 years, 11 months ago

Valve is doing stuff with the sequel that wouldn't work in the original, end of story. If people want to keep playing L4D then they don't have to buy the sequel, no one is forcing them. These people payed for a game, not for years upon years of free DLC.

#25 Posted by Lyphen (75 posts) - 3 years, 11 months ago

I'm a part of the group. I know it won't accomplish anything, but at the very least, I want the people on L4D2 to lose some sleep. I've been swindled into spending 120$ so my girlfriend and I could play it on PC. I bought it thinking I'd be getting more content in the future to warrant a purchase, instead, I got a few rooms ported into a survival mode. Okay, that's semi-decent.

But as a long time Valve supporter, I was expecting alot more.

#26 Posted by mracoon (4583 posts) - 3 years, 11 months ago

@Lyphen said:

"
I'm a part of the group. I know it won't accomplish anything, but at the very least, I want the people on L4D2 to lose some sleep. I've been swindled into spending 120$ so my girlfriend and I could play it on PC. I bought it thinking I'd be getting more content in the future to warrant a purchase, instead, I got a few rooms ported into a survival mode. Okay, that's semi-decent.
But as a long time Valve supporter, I was expecting alot more.
"

Why do people always expect things like this. Valve gave you a free update with a brand new mode (which you didn't like but that not their fault) and other companies would force you to pay for much less.

The point is that the things that are going to be in L4D2 won't work in the original and so that's why they're making a brand new game which probably will be supported for a long time.

Moderator

#27 Posted by Weltal (2250 posts) - 3 years, 11 months ago

Lol @ boycotting in general.

#28 Posted by TheKidNixon (1564 posts) - 3 years, 11 months ago

@mracoon said:

Why do people always expect things like this. Valve gave you a free update with a brand new mode (which you didn't like but that not their fault) and other companies would force you to pay for much less.The point is that the things that are going to be in L4D2 won't work in the original and so that's why they're making a brand new game which probably will be supported for a long time. "

I think it is that last part that is sticking in people's craw. Valve's support for TF2 spoiled a lot of people, as they continuously updated and refined the game, to a seemingly obsessive level. Their interaction with the community was and is second to none. A lot of people expected the same from L4D; I can't tell you how many reviews 5-starred this game, citing that the expected continued support makes up for the shallow amount of content in the original package. Now with a new game coming out less than a year later, why should anyone assume that this game "probably will be supported for a long time?" People assumed that for the first game, and how did that turn out?

#29 Posted by Lyphen (75 posts) - 3 years, 11 months ago

"Absolutely. We already have ideas for additional missions, features, and content that we hope to ship in future releases/updates to Left 4 Dead. In addition, an L4D-specific update will be made to the Source SDK so members of the community can make their own missions, characters, and L4D MOD content." - http://www.firingsquad.com/games/left_4_dead_interview/page2.asp

"Post launch we will definitely be supporting the game with downloadable content" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2u4rNH9cqIM

#30 Posted by Alex_V (613 posts) - 3 years, 11 months ago

@Lyphen said:

"
I'm a part of the group. I know it won't accomplish anything, but at the very least, I want the people on L4D2 to lose some sleep. I've been swindled into spending 120$ so my girlfriend and I could play it on PC. I bought it thinking I'd be getting more content in the future to warrant a purchase, instead, I got a few rooms ported into a survival mode. Okay, that's semi-decent.
But as a long time Valve supporter, I was expecting alot more.
"

But again, who says that a lot more isn't coming? Valve have announced there will be more updates for L4D1. Either you are psychic or you are being totally unreasonable.

#31 Posted by VitaminWaterYum (378 posts) - 3 years, 11 months ago

@Lyphen said:

" "Absolutely. We already have ideas for additional missions, features, and content that we hope to ship in future releases/updates to Left 4 Dead. In addition, an L4D-specific update will be made to the Source SDK so members of the community can make their own missions, characters, and L4D MOD content." - http://www.firingsquad.com/games/left_4_dead_interview/page2.asp"Post launch we will definitely be supporting the game with downloadable content" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2u4rNH9cqIM "

They did support it with DLC, you have survival mode. They are bringing the SDK out, and they specifically say updates/releases.

#32 Posted by mracoon (4583 posts) - 3 years, 11 months ago

@TheKidNixon said:

"
@mracoon said:

Why do people always expect things like this. Valve gave you a free update with a brand new mode (which you didn't like but that not their fault) and other companies would force you to pay for much less.The point is that the things that are going to be in L4D2 won't work in the original and so that's why they're making a brand new game which probably will be supported for a long time. "
I think it is that last part that is sticking in people's craw. Valve's support for TF2 spoiled a lot of people, as they continuously updated and refined the game, to a seemingly obsessive level. Their interaction with the community was and is second to none. A lot of people expected the same from L4D; I can't tell you how many reviews 5-starred this game, citing that the expected continued support makes up for the shallow amount of content in the original package. Now with a new game coming out less than a year later, why should anyone assume that this game "probably will be supported for a long time?" People assumed that for the first game, and how did that turn out? "

That's why I said probably ( a better word would of been might). That why if they do give me some extra free content I'll be happy and if they don't I'll still be happy with the game I have. I said probably because I don't think we'll get L4D3 until a long while after because this game is everything they couldn't put into the original, so they would have done everything they could with game.

Moderator

#33 Posted by Bucketdeth (7938 posts) - 3 years, 11 months ago

Just joined.

#34 Posted by Lyphen (75 posts) - 3 years, 11 months ago

@Alex_V said:

"
@Lyphen said:
"
I'm a part of the group. I know it won't accomplish anything, but at the very least, I want the people on L4D2 to lose some sleep. I've been swindled into spending 120$ so my girlfriend and I could play it on PC. I bought it thinking I'd be getting more content in the future to warrant a purchase, instead, I got a few rooms ported into a survival mode. Okay, that's semi-decent.
But as a long time Valve supporter, I was expecting alot more.
"
But again, who says that a lot more isn't coming? Valve have announced there will be more updates for L4D1. Either you are psychic or you are being totally unreasonable. "

Whatever it is, I think it's safe to say that it still won't be what I was expecting, based on Valve's pre-launch hype. What I was expecting, is happening in L4D2. I don't think that's an unreasonable statement.

#35 Posted by crunchUK (5963 posts) - 3 years, 11 months ago

i dont even have l4d 1 yet...

#36 Posted by Demyx (3227 posts) - 3 years, 11 months ago

@Alex_V said:

"
@Lyphen said:
"
I'm a part of the group. I know it won't accomplish anything, but at the very least, I want the people on L4D2 to lose some sleep. I've been swindled into spending 120$ so my girlfriend and I could play it on PC. I bought it thinking I'd be getting more content in the future to warrant a purchase, instead, I got a few rooms ported into a survival mode. Okay, that's semi-decent.
But as a long time Valve supporter, I was expecting alot more.
"
But again, who says that a lot more isn't coming? Valve have announced there will be more updates for L4D1. Either you are psychic or you are being totally unreasonable. "

I don't see then why we need a sequel just yet then. Why not keep supporting the first one and then release the sequel in a few months? I don't see why a company would continue support for one game while still working on its sequel which is almost finished. No one is gonna buy the first one if the second, more improved one is coming out.

However I completely think that is unreasonable for anyone to boycott this game. It may be aggravating to some people, but it seems to be a more completel game. My biggest gripe is the characters from the first game and what will happen to them

#37 Posted by skilzlost (237 posts) - 3 years, 11 months ago

i purchessed l4d first day it arived retail.. (sorry for spelling)

i must admit i was quite disapointed to hear about l4d2 mainly becuase i havent played that much l4d.. for the first few months of relise it was incredebly buggy i still have trouble getting on a game now sometimes.. i wasnt to pised of for this as i thought over time itl b fixed..

but now thev release date for second i think this issue will just b delt with in the second.

now tbh i also just bought pc gamer and it looks amazing i will prob buy it but i just really hope they will do me discount or somethign due to probs we all have had with the fist game .. especially those who still have trouble getting on..

i think there should def b a discount on day of release for those who purchased l4d FULL PRICE.. as i did.

#38 Posted by FiestaUnicorn (1552 posts) - 3 years, 11 months ago

It's the first time they've released a game so soon after the original. Would you rather wait four years for a sequal? Stop thinking that they don't want to make money they're a business not your friend.

#39 Posted by Alex_V (613 posts) - 3 years, 11 months ago

@Demyx said:

"
Why not keep supporting the first one and then release the sequel in a few months?
"

That seems to be exactly what Valve are doing.

#40 Posted by Demyx (3227 posts) - 3 years, 11 months ago

@Alex_V said:

"
@Demyx said:
"
Why not keep supporting the first one and then release the sequel in a few months?
"
That seems to be exactly what Valve are doing. "

I mean delay the sequel a few months

#41 Posted by VitaminWaterYum (378 posts) - 3 years, 11 months ago

@skilzlost said:

" i purchessed l4d first day it arived retail.. (sorry for spelling)i must admit i was quite disapointed to hear about l4d2 mainly becuase i havent played that much l4d.. for the first few months of relise it was incredebly buggy i still have trouble getting on a game now sometimes.. i wasnt to pised of for this as i thought over time itl b fixed..but now thev release date for second i think this issue will just b delt with in the second.now tbh i also just bought pc gamer and it looks amazing i will prob buy it but i just really hope they will do me discount or somethign due to probs we all have had with the fist game .. especially those who still have trouble getting on..i think there should def b a discount on day of release for those who purchased l4d FULL PRICE.. as i did. "

So going by your logic, anyone who buys a game on day one, should get a discount on the sequel? How does that make sense?

#42 Posted by natetodamax (18928 posts) - 3 years, 11 months ago

Am I the only fucking person that's excited for this damn mother fucking game? Seriously, all of you haters need to get the stick out of your fucking asses and chill the fuck out.

FUCK

/rant

#43 Posted by Asurastrike (2059 posts) - 3 years, 11 months ago

I never bought the original Left 4 Dead, so I will continue the trend and not buy L4D2. :P

#44 Posted by MrMuffinzzz (98 posts) - 3 years, 11 months ago

Hopefully a new L4D doesn't come every year and be named L4D 09-15

#45 Posted by Alex_V (613 posts) - 3 years, 11 months ago

@Asurastrike said:

" I never bought the original Left 4 Dead, so I will continue the trend and not buy L4D2. :P "

Nice. I'm boycotting every game after Pong because they splintered the community.

#46 Posted by PureRok (4230 posts) - 3 years, 11 months ago

Well, after the disappointment that was L4D, I won't be getting L4D2. Whether it's "too soon" or not is unimportant. If the amount of content in L4D is anything to go by, L4D2 will still not be worth the $60 they are likely to charge for it.

I may get it in five years when it costs $10.

#47 Posted by EvilDingo (589 posts) - 3 years, 11 months ago

I'm not likely to be getting this game since I didn't get the first game - but don't want to come off as someone who supports this irrational boycott...

... I'm conflicted

#48 Posted by Davvyk (596 posts) - 3 years, 11 months ago

@Lyphen said:

"
I'm a part of the group. I know it won't accomplish anything, but at the very least, I want the people on L4D2 to lose some sleep. I've been swindled into spending 120$ so my girlfriend and I could play it on PC. I bought it thinking I'd be getting more content in the future to warrant a purchase, instead, I got a few rooms ported into a survival mode. Okay, that's semi-decent.
But as a long time Valve supporter, I was expecting alot more.
"

Id point out that making that purchase hoping that future unannounced content that would add up to what you consider as value for money was a gamble. You cant moan when you loose on a bet and thats effectively what you did.

Bottom line is as long as you enjoy L4D, which you obviously do ,keep playing it until you feel youve had your value and then move on up to L4D2.

I find it odd that people (not Lyphen) seem to think that the L4D gamerscene will instantly die on L4D2 release. If another developer made a co-op zombie shooter that released next week that was better than L4D people would be stoked. People seem to think that because both titles are Valve only one can survive....

There is a Highlander quote in there somewhere

#49 Posted by MutieLover (29 posts) - 3 years, 11 months ago

@Alex_V said:

"
@Lyphen said:
"
I'm a part of the group. I know it won't accomplish anything, but at the very least, I want the people on L4D2 to lose some sleep. I've been swindled into spending 120$ so my girlfriend and I could play it on PC. I bought it thinking I'd be getting more content in the future to warrant a purchase, instead, I got a few rooms ported into a survival mode. Okay, that's semi-decent.
But as a long time Valve supporter, I was expecting alot more.
"
But again, who says that a lot more isn't coming? Valve have announced there will be more updates for L4D1. Either you are psychic or you are being totally unreasonable. "

It's perfectly reasonable to assume that once a new game comes out that support for the first will dwindle. It would be unreasonable to thing that their teams are going to divide their time developing new levels for both games.

#50 Posted by Tovan (632 posts) - 3 years, 11 months ago

There's also the fact that people are pissed that HL2 EP3 has been left in the dust for so long, it almost feels like Valve abandoned it.

Left 4 Dead 2

Four new survivors must work together to make it through the zombie apocalypse in the Southern United States, facing new threats and traversing new terrain as they fight their way through this sequel to Valve's critically acclaimed Left 4 Dead.

Comment and Save