What the hell?

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#1 Posted by AndrewGaspar (2559 posts) -

Why is this a concept?

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#2 Posted by twenty0ne (3056 posts) -

What's with "LGBT?"

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#3 Posted by AndrewGaspar (2559 posts) -

Read the page.

"Lesbian Gay Bisexual Transsexual"

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#4 Posted by Relys (1001 posts) -
AndrewGaspar said:
"Read the page.

"Lesbian Gay Bisexual Transsexual""
What the hell does that mean?
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#5 Posted by Axersia (1755 posts) -

It's a concept because someone requested it. Actually, he requested a "Gay" concept, but I thought using an umbrella term like this would be a better idea, so I changed it. It's quite a well-known term too. Try google, it gives 11.4 million hits. There's quite a bit to write about too. Check wikipedia, for example.

So if anyone wants to write about the history of LGBT characters in video games, now they can. It's a totally valid concept.


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#6 Posted by Arkthemaniac (6872 posts) -

I wonder who would write about such a concept........other than an LGBT in the flesh.....

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#7 Posted by DualReaver (3791 posts) -
Arkthemaniac said:
"I wonder who would write about such a concept........other than an LGBT in the flesh....."
IC9?
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#8 Posted by BestUsernameEver (5026 posts) -

At first I thought it was an abbreviated LittleBigPlanet lol.

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#9 Posted by AndrewGaspar (2559 posts) -
Axersia said:
"It's a concept because someone requested it. Actually, he requested a "Gay" concept, but I thought using an umbrella term like this would be a better idea, so I changed it. It's quite a well-known term too. Try google, it gives 11.4 million hits. There's quite a bit to write about too. Check wikipedia, for example.

So if anyone wants to write about the history of LGBT characters in video games, now they can. It's a totally valid concept."
*straight concept added*

Not really, but I think this is a ridiculous concept.
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#10 Posted by DiscoLights (880 posts) -

Awwwwwwwwwwww

I love it!
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#11 Posted by Subway (982 posts) -
BestUsernameEver said:
"At first I thought it was an abbreviated LittleBigPlanet lol."
Me too =[
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#12 Posted by Plasticworld (141 posts) -

For anyone who wants to know, I suggested the concept. I think that homosexuality in video games is a very interesting concept. It has been suppressed  for many years, but now boundaries are being broken and more and more games have gay themes.  It is also interesting to see that more and more games are exploring concepts that are "taboo" in real life right now, for example Fable 2 allows you to marry another man. Same thing, in Sims 3, gay marriage is now official in the game.

Other companies are creating openly gay characters, like one from Enchanted Arms, while other companies are allowing the player to choose which sex they want to have interaction with (like Bully, where you can make out with girls or guys), instead of forcing the player to have a straight character.

It is an interesting concept, me thinks.

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#13 Posted by Plasticworld (141 posts) -
AndrewGaspar said:
"Axersia said:
"It's a concept because someone requested it. Actually, he requested a "Gay" concept, but I thought using an umbrella term like this would be a better idea, so I changed it. It's quite a well-known term too. Try google, it gives 11.4 million hits. There's quite a bit to write about too. Check wikipedia, for example.

So if anyone wants to write about the history of LGBT characters in video games, now they can. It's a totally valid concept."
*straight concept added*

Not really, but I think this is a ridiculous concept."
Why do you think it's ridiculous?
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#14 Edited by ninjadodo (267 posts) -

Personally I would have suggested naming it "Gay sexual content" in reference to Jack Thompson's hilarious bigotry, but this is probably a smarter title. Will no doubt minimize otherwise inevitable (?) comments to the effect of "OMG, that's gay!"

I think it's good that games are reflecting the varied sexual preferences that exist in real life, although I get the impression there is a slight bias towards girl on girl action, that may or may not reflect a predominantly male heterosexual development community. ;)

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#15 Posted by WickedCobra03 (2236 posts) -
Axersia said:
"It's a concept because someone requested it. Actually, he requested a "Gay" concept, but I thought using an umbrella term like this would be a better idea, so I changed it. It's quite a well-known term too. Try google, it gives 11.4 million hits. There's quite a bit to write about too. Check wikipedia, for example.

So if anyone wants to write about the history of LGBT characters in video games, now they can. It's a totally valid concept.


"
Can I request a "StraightStraightStraightStraight" board?  kthx, I will expect to be posting on the SSSS tomorrow! :|
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#16 Posted by Endogene (5183 posts) -

looks like axercia didnt notice that this concept excists ^^ time for a PM

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#17 Posted by Axersia (1755 posts) -
Endogene said:
"looks like axercia didnt notice that this concept excists ^^ time for a PM"
And I will quote your post so you can't cover up your embarrassment by deleting it. xD

*points to post he made in this very thread and the top contributor of this page*
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#18 Posted by HandsomeDead (11853 posts) -

Bring on the homophobia.

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#19 Edited by BoG (5390 posts) -
Arkthemaniac said:
"I wonder who would write about such a concept........other than an LGBT in the flesh....."
I guess that means me, as I am a lesbian. I can't help it, I just love women!
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#20 Posted by Endogene (5183 posts) -
Axersia said:
"Endogene said:
"looks like axercia didnt notice that this concept excists ^^ time for a PM"
And I will quote your post so you can't cover up your embarrassment by deleting it. xD

*points to post he made in this very thread and the top contributor of this page*"
ahem... mere details
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#21 Posted by Vaxadrin (2319 posts) -

Hottest concept ever.

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#22 Posted by Riddler (1602 posts) -

GET THIS SHIT OFF THE SITE!!!!!!!!

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#23 Posted by Milkman (18906 posts) -
Riddler said:
"GET THIS SHIT OFF THE SITE!!!!!!!!"
Homophobia FTL

And why wouldn't this be a concept? There are certainly some games with gay and lesbian characters.
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#24 Edited by Endogene (5183 posts) -
Milkman said:
"Riddler said:
"GET THIS SHIT OFF THE SITE!!!!!!!!"
Homophobia FTL

And why wouldn't this be a concept? There are certainly some games with gay and lesbian characters."
you link the concept to the characters

edit: looks like i misunderstood you
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#25 Posted by Milkman (18906 posts) -
Endogene said:
"Milkman said:
"Riddler said:
"GET THIS SHIT OFF THE SITE!!!!!!!!"
Homophobia FTL

And why wouldn't this be a concept? There are certainly some games with gay and lesbian characters."
you link the concept to the characters"
Yeah, that's what I was saying...
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#26 Posted by CactusWolf (533 posts) -
Plasticworld said:
"For anyone who wants to know, I suggested the concept. I think that homosexuality in video games is a very interesting concept. It has been suppressed  for many years, but now boundaries are being broken and more and more games have gay themes.  It is also interesting to see that more and more games are exploring concepts that are "taboo" in real life right now, for example Fable 2 allows you to marry another man. Same thing, in Sims 3, gay marriage is now official in the game.

Other companies are creating openly gay characters, like one from Enchanted Arms, while other companies are allowing the player to choose which sex they want to have interaction with (like Bully, where you can make out with girls or guys), instead of forcing the player to have a straight character.

It is an interesting concept, me thinks."
Winner. 
Agreed.
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#27 Posted by Riddler (1602 posts) -
Milkman said:
"Riddler said:
"GET THIS SHIT OFF THE SITE!!!!!!!!"
Homophobia FTL

And why wouldn't this be a concept? There are certainly some games with gay and lesbian characters."


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#28 Posted by Vaxadrin (2319 posts) -
Riddler said:
"GET THIS SHIT OFF THE SITE!!!!!!!!"
I'm gonna put it in your butt.
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#29 Posted by LordAndrew (14601 posts) -
ninjadodo said:
"Personally I would have suggested naming it "Gay sexual content" in reference to Jack Thompson's hilarious bigotry, but this is probably a smarter title. Will no doubt minimize otherwise inevitable (?) comments to the effect of "OMG, that's gay!"

I think it's good that games are reflecting the varied sexual preferences that exist in real life, although I get the impression there is a slight bias towards girl on girl action, that may or may not reflect a predominantly male heterosexual development community. ;)"
I was actually considering creating a page with that name, but then my brain activated and I didn't. :)
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#30 Posted by Giantkitty (869 posts) -

Welcome to the 21st century folks. If you want freedom, well then there's going to be things you find objectionable or whatever. I don't think freedom here should be limited to "I can say fuck!" or "I want to see bewbies!" It's a valid, real, nontrivial subject. And the icon is just a flag (in case *gasp* you accidentally find it hooked on a game), not two guys making out, so that's easily ignorable, and nobody is forcing you to come here.

[Arkthemaniac]
>I wonder who would write about such a concept........other than an LGBT in the flesh.....

Using that logic, only people who kill cops and smack prostitutes would write about GTA.

[AndrewGaspar]
>*straight concept added*

Or just assume that if LGBT isn't there they are. If the concept of straight was accepted, some point farmer would go through characters and games A-Z and clutter up games with one of those concepts people assume anyways.
Also, it's fallacious:  If A: (LGBT) then B (ridiculous concept) you "prove" this by saying ~A (straight) then B (ridiculous concept)
let's substitute A=apples, B=fruit then If Apples then its a fruit :: if it's not apples then it's a fruit (may or not be true). You can't use the opposite of something or what it's not to prove what it is. It boils down to is: If A then B :: if not A then B, two contradictory statements, and a misuse of reducto ad absurdum, if that's what you were going for.

[AndrewGaspar]
>Not really, but I think this is a ridiculous concept.
[Plasticworld]
>Why do you think it's ridiculous?

They never say why. I had a similar argument like this at the Gender Change. They were like "this is a scary concept!' I asked why and have gotten no replies, it seems they can only only rant and give little snide remarks without justification.

[WickedCobra03]
>Can I request a "StraightStraightStraightStraight" board?  kthx, I will expect to be posting on the SSSS tomorrow! :|

Whoever is in charge decided to make it all one concept. They all could exist as separate topics, just there would be less games and characters in each. They are closely related and even Wikipedia has a separate LGBT article, so it's fine.
I suppose you could be right on the first three, but the last, Transgender refers to their own sex, not their partner's sex. Transgendered people can be straight, gay, or bi before and after any changes. I don't know if there is an antonym for Transgender. Heterogender?

[Riddler]
 >GET THIS SHIT OFF THE SITE!!!!!!!!
[Vaxadrin]
>I'm gonna put it in your butt.

I'd put it in his mouth. Oh wait, it's already full, never mind.
And in response to "Don't Stop Believin'" (I know it's a non sequitor), pretend I put in "You've Got Another Thing Comin," apt in more ways than one, if you know what i mean (Wikipedia Rob Halford if you don't).

[LordAndrew]
>I was actually considering creating a page with that name, but then my brain activated and I didn't. :)

So by that statement, you're admitting that your brain was at one point deactivated or never activated in the first place :)

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#31 Posted by AaronBelfast (1473 posts) -
DiscoLights said:
"Awwwwwwwwwwww
I love it!
"
Why am I not surprised?
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#32 Posted by Plasticworld (141 posts) -

Seriously, why are so many people getting worked up about this? Gay people exist, and they play video games too, big deal. Also, it's not like I put a picture of two hairy guys making out it leather, it's a simple flag which doesn't bother anyone.

If you have any suggestions tell me or edit them yerself, it's a wiki after all.

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#33 Posted by Boyling (218 posts) -
Plasticworld said:
"Seriously, why are so many people getting worked up about this? Gay people exist, and they play video games too, big deal. Also, it's not like I put a picture of two hairy guys making out it leather, it's a simple flag which doesn't bother anyone.

If you have any suggestions tell me or edit them yerself, it's a wiki after all."
Hear, hear
I'm just glad that some people can't help but reveal themselves as the homophobes they are =) It makes it easy to just ignore them and their opinions in general!
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#34 Posted by Gregomasta (1599 posts) -

Should their be a Straight concept?

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#35 Posted by MisterSpiffy (908 posts) -
Plasticworld said:
"For anyone who wants to know, I suggested the concept. I think that homosexuality in video games is a very interesting concept. It has been suppressed  for many years, but now boundaries are being broken and more and more games have gay themes.  It is also interesting to see that more and more games are exploring concepts that are "taboo" in real life right now, for example Fable 2 allows you to marry another man. Same thing, in Sims 3, gay marriage is now official in the game.

Other companies are creating openly gay characters, like one from Enchanted Arms, while other companies are allowing the player to choose which sex they want to have interaction with (like Bully, where you can make out with girls or guys), instead of forcing the player to have a straight character.

It is an interesting concept, me thinks."
I agree.  It's not just an interesting concept in video games, it's an interesting concept in ANY form of media, as many books, movies, and more are following suit and having these types of themes in them.
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#36 Posted by MrGetBonus (794 posts) -

Yay! an excuse for....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbGkxcY7YFU

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#37 Posted by zitosilva (1890 posts) -
Plasticworld said:
"For anyone who wants to know, I suggested the concept. I think that homosexuality in video games is a very interesting concept. It has been suppressed  for many years, but now boundaries are being broken and more and more games have gay themes.  It is also interesting to see that more and more games are exploring concepts that are "taboo" in real life right now, for example Fable 2 allows you to marry another man. Same thing, in Sims 3, gay marriage is now official in the game.

Other companies are creating openly gay characters, like one from Enchanted Arms, while other companies are allowing the player to choose which sex they want to have interaction with (like Bully, where you can make out with girls or guys), instead of forcing the player to have a straight character.

It is an interesting concept, me thinks."
I didn't know Enchanted Arms had a gay character.

I was trying to thing of a game that had gay/lesbian characters in their story, not in your choice (like in the other games you mentioned) but I can't really remember any.

Though If I'm not mistaken that guy that gives you missions in Baten Kaitos: Origins says something about no longer loving Geldoblane. But I can't remember his name. But it's the only one I can think about. I'd like to know about other games.
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#38 Posted by MisterSpiffy (908 posts) -
zitosilva said:
"Plasticworld said:
"For anyone who wants to know, I suggested the concept. I think that homosexuality in video games is a very interesting concept. It has been suppressed  for many years, but now boundaries are being broken and more and more games have gay themes.  It is also interesting to see that more and more games are exploring concepts that are "taboo" in real life right now, for example Fable 2 allows you to marry another man. Same thing, in Sims 3, gay marriage is now official in the game.

Other companies are creating openly gay characters, like one from Enchanted Arms, while other companies are allowing the player to choose which sex they want to have interaction with (like Bully, where you can make out with girls or guys), instead of forcing the player to have a straight character.

It is an interesting concept, me thinks."
I didn't know Enchanted Arms had a gay character.

I was trying to thing of a game that had gay/lesbian characters in their story, not in your choice (like in the other games you mentioned) but I can't really remember any.

Though If I'm not mistaken that guy that gives you missions in Baten Kaitos: Origins says something about no longer loving Geldoblane. But I can't remember his name. But it's the only one I can think about. I'd like to know about other games."
If you've played Enchanted Arms, you probably know who it is.  He's VERY flamboyant.
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#39 Posted by Alita_99 (56 posts) -
Giantkitty said:
I suppose you could be right on the first three, but the last, Transgender refers to their own sex, not their partner's sex. Transgendered people can be straight, gay, or bi before and after any changes. I don't know if there is an antonym for Transgender. Heterogender?


Cisgender.  If you are not transgender, you are cisgender.
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#40 Posted by Giantkitty (869 posts) -
Alita_99 said:
"Giantkitty said:
I suppose you could be right on the first three, but the last, Transgender refers to their own sex, not their partner's sex. Transgendered people can be straight, gay, or bi before and after any changes. I don't know if there is an antonym for Transgender. Heterogender?


Cisgender.  If you are not transgender, you are cisgender.
"
Thanks, never heard that word before.

>Should their be a Straight concept?

If it's nothing is said, and this is for 90+% of characters, it's assumed they're straight or not interested
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#41 Posted by PitifullPete (147 posts) -

(@Artkthemaniac:) Oh, I consider myself as heterosexual I was asking myself  "are there LGBT characters in video games", just the other day. Maybe its a little related to a course  Im hearing in school (Transnational Sexuality) , but it's still an obviously valid and interesting concept. I'm REALLY wondering why people complain about it.
So why do we need a LGBT but no Straight concept? Because most people consider all characters in video games straight anyway.

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#42 Posted by Scooper (7920 posts) -

Bully has GAY SEXUAL CONTENT!

I have just been going through some old HotSpot episodes as the new ones aren't fun to listen to and I've listened to that crazy one where they're ripping Jack Thompson on his pathetic slam on Bully. Good episode.

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#43 Posted by zitosilva (1890 posts) -
MisterSpiffy said:
"zitosilva said:
"Plasticworld said:
"For anyone who wants to know, I suggested the concept. I think that homosexuality in video games is a very interesting concept. It has been suppressed  for many years, but now boundaries are being broken and more and more games have gay themes.  It is also interesting to see that more and more games are exploring concepts that are "taboo" in real life right now, for example Fable 2 allows you to marry another man. Same thing, in Sims 3, gay marriage is now official in the game.

Other companies are creating openly gay characters, like one from Enchanted Arms, while other companies are allowing the player to choose which sex they want to have interaction with (like Bully, where you can make out with girls or guys), instead of forcing the player to have a straight character.

It is an interesting concept, me thinks."
I didn't know Enchanted Arms had a gay character.

I was trying to thing of a game that had gay/lesbian characters in their story, not in your choice (like in the other games you mentioned) but I can't really remember any.

Though If I'm not mistaken that guy that gives you missions in Baten Kaitos: Origins says something about no longer loving Geldoblane. But I can't remember his name. But it's the only one I can think about. I'd like to know about other games."
If you've played Enchanted Arms, you probably know who it is.  He's VERY flamboyant."
Yeah, I didn't play the game because I didn't hear very good things about it.
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#44 Posted by HTTenrai (292 posts) -

*Gives GiantKitty a great big cookie*

Thanks for being one of the good people!

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#45 Posted by Doc_Zaius (141 posts) -
Giantkitty said:
*(edit for space)*....

[Riddler]
 >GET THIS SHIT OFF THE SITE!!!!!!!!
[Vaxadrin]
>I'm gonna put it in your butt.

I'd put it in his mouth. Oh wait, it's already full, never mind.
And in response to "Don't Stop Believin'" (I know it's a non sequitor), pretend I put in "You've Got Another Thing Comin," apt in more ways than one, if you know what i mean (Wikipedia Rob Halford if you don't).

[LordAndrew]
>I was actually considering creating a page with that name, but then my brain activated and I didn't. :)

So by that statement, you're admitting that your brain was at one point deactivated or never activated in the first place :)"
For a Big Pussy you gotta lotta balls.  Amen brother, thanks for clearing it up for the ignorant.
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#46 Edited by lolwot (409 posts) -

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#47 Posted by HandsomeDead (11853 posts) -
@lolwot said:
" wtf? I had no idea these things were lumped together in this odd abbreviation. Why not just "homosexuality"? "
Because bisexuality isn't homosexuality and transexuals can be attracted to either.

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